ARROW |OT| Green Arrow TV series on CW

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I haven't read the comics - do people know Oliver is Arrow in the mythology, or is tonight's ending just a red herring type of plot development?

Maybe Diggle dresses up as Arrow while Oliver is detained to throw off suspicion?

I'm curious to see how it plays out.
 
I'm really not feeling Lauryn. But aside from her, really enjoyed the episode. I love how brutal and ruthless Arrow is. Shooting through the guy's hand the the interogation scene were glorious. They also have started to modulate his voice when it Arrow outfit and it sounds much better now. Plus I'm really happy the show is going for Vampire Diaries and Nikita-like pacing.

Also..I'm not sure if the creators are intentionally aiming at light Dexter vibes, but Olie sure looked weird and very unnatural when smiling :D
 
Wow what an episode, they are running trough the story very fast... maybe they thought that series will not get full season pickup and have elected to cram as much story as they can in it. If you remember original ~11 episodes of Prison Break were magnificent, but after the official pickup they filmed more and from then series went downhill.

Anyone has a link for next episode preview?
edit - nevermind
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KvUhA5kjC5E
 
AdrianWerner said:
I'm really not feeling Lauryn. But aside from her, really enjoyed the episode. I love how brutal and ruthless Arrow is. Shooting through the guy's hand the the interogation scene were glorious. They also have started to modulate his voice when it Arrow outfit and it sounds much better now. Plus I'm really happy the show is going for Vampire Diaries and Nikita-like pacing.

Also..I'm not sure if the creators are intentionally aiming at light Dexter vibes, but Olie sure looked weird and very unnatural when smiling :D
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He's got the Stepford Slasher Smile.
 
Finally got around to seeing it and this was a pretty good episode. The characterization had its up and downs.

I was expecting Laurel to call out Arrow on his law breaking just as much as Digle did but that didn't happen.

It was nice seeing those 2 instances where Oliver cracks a subtle smile and finally has a full blown grin towards the end.

I'm really surprised the police figured out Arrow's identity so fast. I'm getting the feeling this show isn't strictly following the comic it was inspired by but it definitely makes it a lot better for not sticking to common tropes. The increasing levels of intelligence by most of the characters is refreshing.
 
8bit said:
Green Arrow Year One by Andy Diggle, after that The Longbow Hunters.
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I'm digging the show and know zilch about the green arrow.

I have a nexus 7,what is the best viewer and how exactly do I buy these digitally ?

OK so I know zilch about a bunch of things...
 
Emwitus said:
I think the techy in glasses should have been the lead on the show...
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I was thinking similarly the other day. I normally enjoy Katie Cassidy's performance but Laurel is written in such a boring way that it's hard to be enthused about her character. Oh well, only a few more episodes before The Huntress appears.
 
Oh shit, that was a fucking awesome episode. Loved how brutal Ollie gets at points. Plus, the huge revelations just keep hitting, it's awesome.

And John Barrowman was in this episode! Whoaaaaaa. Still dig the cute tech girl. But man, the dialogue between Arrow and Lauren was terrible.
 
Just watched the pilot. Enjoyed it despite some of the dialogue.

So is this Green Arrow an amalgam of the various background stories for Oliver Queen? With some emphasis towards the Longbow Hunters and Grell?
 
All of the female "actors" in this show are worthless. I'm getting pretty good at spotting the relative lack of talent from the females on any show's cast directly proportionate to how attractive they are. Yeah, I get it, the IT chick is cute and she wears glasses, so she's obviously a huge geek but for the love of all that's fucking good in this world make her stop talking.
 
LiQuid! said:
All of the female "actors" in this show are worthless. I'm getting pretty good at spotting the relative lack of talent from the females on any show's cast directly proportionate to how attractive they are. Yeah, I get it, the IT chick is cute and she wears glasses, so she's obviously a huge geek but for the love of all that's fucking good in this world make her stop talking.
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I still have high hopes for The Huntress/Helena Bertinelli:

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I looked on wikipedia and on IMDB but I can't find the name of the actor who plays the hooded man on the island where Ollie is stranded.

His name and his roles are on the tip of my tongue, but I just can't seem to find him. Any help is appreciated.
 
LiQuid! said:
All of the female "actors" in this show are worthless. I'm getting pretty good at spotting the relative lack of talent from the females on any show's cast directly proportionate to how attractive they are. Yeah, I get it, the IT chick is cute and she wears glasses, so she's obviously a huge geek but for the love of all that's fucking good in this world make her stop talking.
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Well, to be fair, I think the only decent actor in this show is Dresden. Everyone else kinda sucks.

I really dont have a problem with their green arrow actor choice though. I mean, he isnt a good actor, but I totally believe that he could pull off those action scenes since he is so jacked
 
Rafa=FedKilla said:
I mean goddam at this broad. Hope they definitely give her more than her two slated appearances
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Hopefully. Just like Selina Kyle was better fit for Bruce Wayne, I feel a female vigilante would be far better love interestt for Oliver than a normal person.
 
This is a pretty good show. Like someone said before, the lead not being that great of an actor actually helps play into the character's instability and trouble reentering society.

LiQuid! said:
All of the female "actors" in this show are worthless.
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Ollie's mom is a really good actress. She kicked absolute ass on Kings. She's not given much to work with in this show, though.
 
AdrianWerner said:
Potentially. So far she's ordinary chick with extraordinary extremely annoying and hopefully will-soon-die dad :D
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Fixed :D

Also, new picture of The Huntress. Crossbow-wielding female vigilante? Such a flawless combination of Catwoman + Ada Wong (Resident Evil series). Laurel who?

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The pacing of this show is nice. Also I am damn happy he has a voice changer now. It was way too dumb of him to not have it before.

I was also extremely happy to see John Barrowman but then extremely sad that Torchwood is not back on and is probably dead.

Also Huntress looks damn hot.
 
Holy shit at this pacing. It's fucking insanely fast but it also flows very naturally. This is a much better show than I was expecting. The villains and dialogue are a little wonky and corny but they really aren't holding back.
 
Replicant said:
Fixed :D

Also, new picture of The Huntress. Crossbow-wielding female vigilante? Such a flawless combination of Catwoman + Ada Wong (Resident Evil series). Laurel who?

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Be still, my beating heart. I must have a fetish for skin-tight outfits and masks.

I agree with ReiGun, holy crap Laurel is driving me up the wall. She is "self-righteous and preachy" personified. Her and her dad are just... ugh. They've got pretty terrible writing, which sucks since I'm sure at least Blackthorne could do better than this. I'm not too familiar with that other actress though.

I'm still loving how fast everything moves. 4 episodes in and Ollie's been unmasked and is under arrest for murder. Awesome. I know they're gonna try to limit casualties, but I hope Arrow doesn't quit killing people altogether. It's kind of unavoidable when you're shooting people with a bow. Also really like the Chinese dude on the island. I knew that motherfucker spoke English. Ollie's face was hilarious when he was like, "You speak English?" Also, the tech girl is cute, and I like the snark, but then I realized she's talking like that to the head of a multi-billion dollar firm. She must be really good at her job.

So, Ollie's mom dredged up the ship... woooooo. Man, sucks for Walter, her password is her dead first husband.

Also, Laurel must be the dumbest lawyer ever. There's no way she couldn't tell that Arrow was Oliver, considering he was standing in front of her like six times this episode. Hell, that ski mask was so shitty she should have been able to tell. The fuck, girl? I did really like the riot scene though. And she's calling him a killer, but we've only really seen him kill one dude, who was trying to kill him, and killed an innocent guy, via machine gun.

Oliver Queen:

Stranded for five years on a deserted island where he learns to become the world's deadliest warrior.

Is a vigilante for three weeks before he's caught on a security tape grabbing his costume out of a garbage can.
 
NotTheGuyYouKill said:
Oliver Queen:

Stranded for five years on a deserted island where he learns to become the world's deadliest warrior.

Is a vigilante for three weeks before he's caught on a security tape grabbing his costume out of a garbage can.
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Cameras must not have existed 5 years ago and didnt exist on the island. Only explanation
 
NotTheGuyYouKill said:
Oliver Queen:

Stranded for five years on a deserted island where he learns to become the world's deadliest warrior.

Is a vigilante for three weeks before he's caught on a security tape grabbing his costume out of a garbage can.
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Maybe he wanted to get caught because someone on the list is in prison?

I think it is safe to say it is just bad writing
 
So is Deadshot dead or did he survive the arrow to the eye? Cause he's mentioned as the dude that killed Diggle's brother (huge revelation out of nowhere), but they never mention the police finding his body or anything, do they?
 
Interview from EW on Huntress:

http://insidetv.ew.com/2012/11/02/arrow-first-look-see-the-huntress-in-costume-exclusive-photo/

ENTERTAINMENT WEEKLY: Tell me what made you want to introduce the Huntress — and so early in the show’s run, for that matter.

ANDREW KREISBERG: Geoff Johns [from DC Entertainment] was up on the set when we were shooting the pilot and while we were sitting in Vancouver outside freezing our butts off [while] shooting the island sequences, we sat around going, ‘Well, we don’t want to jinx ourselves, but let’s say we do get picked up: What kind of DC characters do you think we can bring to the show?’ And we started spit-balling, I’m not sure which one of us it was but somehow we got this idea for the Huntress. She is the dark mirror version of Oliver, and it was a nice contrast to him because he’s pretty extreme. He goes a lot further than not only his comic book version but lots of comic book characters — most have a code of draws the line against killing. Our [Oliver] is obviously past that. [So we wondered] what could we do if we brought the Huntress in. Since we already have a character who goes to extremes, how much more extreme can we make her?

What we really liked was that on an emotional level, she and Oliver are both damaged by their pasts. As we say on the show, they’ve both gone through a crucible and come out the other side. This is the way they’re coping, but somehow, Oliver has taken the darkness inside with him and is doing something positive with it. She’s taken the darkness inside her and is seeking revenge and doesn’t care who gets hurt in the process. All of these interesting philosophical discussions: What is vengeance? What is justice? Where do you draw the line and how far is too far? And then the fact that she’s hot and Oliver is into her makes it all the more complicated. [Laughs]

What ended up being the answer to your first question — how did you make her more extreme than Oliver?

When you watch the episode, someone close to Oliver is almost killed by the Huntress’ actions and that sets him on his quest. So it’s kind of interesting because in some ways he’s seeking revenge and then he collides with somebody else who’s entire reason for being is revenge. And what’s interesting is that Oliver is on autopilot in some respects as far as his mission. Everything is about the mission and righting his father’s wrongs. And it’s only until he bumps into this sad, damaged, angry but beautiful woman that he realizes how lonely he is and the toll that lying to everybody in his life is taking. So he’s going after a bad guy and he suddenly realizes that he has a lot more in common with her than just about anyone else in his family. That creates this amazing fun relationship for them.

Will we see more of her after her initial appearances?

We hope so. It’s two episodes for now but we definitely hope we see more of her. We certainly set her up as an interesting foil for Oliver and we’re excited to see where else we can take her.

Let’s talk about her costume.

For the Huntress — she’s basically wearing a cape and a purple bikini in the comic. That wouldn’t play so well. So her costume is much more functional while also being sexy and you see there are also hints of purple, which ties into her comic book costume. We also think that on our show, no one is wearing a costume — they are uniforms or outfits. Also, in the comic, Helena is devoutly Catholic. You can see in the Kevlar she’s wearing on her chest, it’s actually in the shape of a cross, which we thought was really cool.

Will her Catholicism play a big part of your TV version of the character?

Her religion has really become revenge. She wears a cross around her neck and that plays a key role in the episode. We don’t touch too much upon the religion, but the iconography is certainly there from the comic books. You can see the DNA of the comic book version in the outfit that our Helena wears. It was just really fun to see because since the pilot, it’s really our first out-and-out hero outfit that we’ve designed, and we really think we’ve succeeded.
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Man, the DC characters keep on coming! Just read that Firefly will also pop up in an episode:

http://insidetv.ew.com/2012/10/31/firefly-arrow/

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Not Firefly. Firefly. The DC Comics character, not Fox’s cult-favorite we’ll-keep-writing-about-it-as-long-as-you-keep-reading-it TV show. That wouldn’t make any sense. Firefly is coming to Arrow and he’ll be played by actor Andrew Dunbar in the show’s tenth episode.
The setup: A firefighter named Garfield Lynns is horribly burned on the job three years ago and never recovered, mentally or physically, and transforms into a villain. Expect the Arrow version to be a more grounded and realistic reinterpretation of the DC character, just like how The CW series approached the Green Arrow (though that is a rather amazing illustration of the original Firefly above).
Firefly joins the expanding list of DC Comics characters appearing on The CW’s freshman drama, including Deadshot, China White, Deathstroke and The Huntress (okay, Deathstroke and The Huntress sounds like a great band playing at Emos during South by Southwest).
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Replicant said:
Fixed :D

Also, new picture of The Huntress. Crossbow-wielding female vigilante? Such a flawless combination of Catwoman + Ada Wong (Resident Evil series). Laurel who?

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Dude. isn't that oliver's sister?

Man...waaaaaaaaaaaaayy too many characters on this show. I like the show...but I watch for Oliver, not the supporting cast.
 
Xplatformer said:
Dude. isn't that oliver's sister?

Man...waaaaaaaaaaaaayy too many characters on this show. I like the show...but I watch for Oliver, not the supporting cast.
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Oh man, that's gonna make for some creepy innuendo during the episode she appears in.

Piecake said:
hopefully he loses the wings
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They should go all out and turn him into The Fury:

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I mean, it's hard to be "Firefly" without the "Fly" part. Plus, jet packs are awesome.
 
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