Are you from Canada? If so, do you know where that island Oliver was stranded on? It looks beautiful. I just assumed that they must have shot that near Canada instead of going all the way to a remote island in China.
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Are you from Canada? If so, do you know where that island Oliver was stranded on? It looks beautiful. I just assumed that they must have shot that near Canada instead of going all the way to a remote island in China.
NotTheGuyYouKill
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Yeah, I'm in Vancouver... or close enough. I don't think that's on an island though, it just looks like it's on one of the beaches somewhere or in the forests in North Van or something... we have lots and lots of trees and areas that look like that along the shoreline.
LAUGHTREY
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Its going to be across the entire season already, I'm sure by the end we'll be sick of the island flashbacks.
Wiktor
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Meh. Him killing people is one of the best parts of the show.
LAUGHTREY
Modesty becomes a woman
I can't believe I'm reading stuff like this. How are they going to cross over with other heroes if hes just murdering tons of people?
The heroes (especially DC) never kill. Superman/Batman don't play that shit. Not to mention it's a huge cop-out. It completely changes the character too. I don't know that much about him, but Batman and Superman don't kill because they're god tier and can get away with it, but if I had to guess Green Arrows only ever done it in a life or death situation in necessity, and then probably had to deal with it after the fact.
Shooting the gun out of Det. Lances hand is also annoying, it's like they're showing he can do it but refuse to acknowledge it. It's somewhat believable when a vigilante goes around taking out bad guys that the cops will only "officially" want to arrest them, but when he goes around killing tons of people, especially rich motherfuckers, how do they not just lock down the entire city?
But seriously, Deadshots a bad guy because he didn't give him 24 hours warning before killing him? Oh he has different motives so it's ok when GA does it but if it's for personal gain then prepare to also die? He's not Wolverine or the Punisher, shits dumb if you have any respect for story-telling whatsoever.
Speaking of changing characters, why bother naming the love interest after Black Canary if she is just going to be a lawyer? If they're going to make his sister Speedy they better hurry up and do something with that, otherwise why give her that nickname and a drug addiction? Also; Merlyn.
I don't think they're planning on having that happen.
This entire thing seems very heavily influenced by Mike Grell's Green Arrow. Hence, nobody calls him Green Arrow.
The only time in Grell's Green Arrow another hero came to visit, it was Green Lantern and he never got in his costume, never used his powers and was only referred to as "Hal."
I can't say what will happen a few seasons down the line, but I don't think they're planning on this becoming like Smallville.
Tizoc
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I too think he shouldn't kill, but as is...I'll give it some time. I think he WILL eventually absolve from killing as the series progresses.
Overall the show's good with some good action
Overall the show's good with some good action
Deadshoot's eye google was...weird and didn't fit well. I think it would've been better if it were an eyepatch or maybe a glass eyepatch? I also think he didn't get enough development, but I think he isn't dead and would appear in a future ep.
I would understand this sentimentality if he was going after street level thugs and not corporate targets. I don't want to see more of Nolan's stupid cartoon Gotham that looks like a movie set designed to look as dingy and inhospitable as possible. A city can still be vile and sinister without looking like it came out of the sketchbook of a 13 year old mallgoth.
He is playing the part very broadly. Sometimes it works and other times it feels awkward. On the other hand, I'd rather have that than say, Katie Cassidy who just seems bored. I think she's waiting for a chance to kick some ass because she did that well in Supernatural.
(I'm also happy for Blackthorne because he's developed a bit of a reputation as a show-killer and Arrow has broken it.)
Wiktor
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Because they also won't be bothered with killing when necessary?
Him not killing might have worked in a campy show like Smallville, but if you're going for semi-realism then sorry, but shooting arrows will end up killing people from time to time.
It's not like he's killing everyone in his way, he just maims them. He only killed some people so far and it's not like he had any choice in those cases.
Plus, really...I love Batman, but him not killing anyone is beyond retarded and makes him seem like extremely selfish little boy, who cares more about his own morality than lives of hundreds of people that died just because of his stupid 'no killing" rule.
Yep, what he said. Comic books are stupid. All that no killing shit is a product of the Comic Code and needs to be done with anyways. A show about a dude with a bow and arrow where nobody ever got shot would just piss me off.
Clay Davis
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watched the first episode last night and I must admit that I really liked it. the new arrow / oliver is very likeable and made me all but forget about the arrow / oliver from the smallville series.
the flashback aspect is really well done too, good acting throughout but I found the relationship / interactions between oliver and his sister very awkward. maybe I was reading too much into those scenes.
overall, very impressed by the pilot and it's been added to my series link.
one last thing, watching the episode made me feel like I need to get into shape. the lead is ripped as hell.
the flashback aspect is really well done too, good acting throughout but I found the relationship / interactions between oliver and his sister very awkward. maybe I was reading too much into those scenes.
overall, very impressed by the pilot and it's been added to my series link.
one last thing, watching the episode made me feel like I need to get into shape. the lead is ripped as hell.
Jorok Goldblade
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Batman has an official partnership with the Gotham Police Department, and also brings children into battle with him- both of which are pretty strong reasons not to kill.
Wiktor
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Tell that to all those people Joker kills after his ever escape.
"Don't cry little girl. Yeah, your daddy got killed, but you have to understand.... I bring little boys in tights into the work, so tough luck I guess..."
sweetvar26
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Is this worth watching? I haven't read the reviews nor have I heard anything about it so far.
YES! Watch ep1, and you will be hooked [or at least satisfied with majority of the show].
sweetvar26
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I shall then. Thanks.
LAUGHTREY
Modesty becomes a woman
You don't think it's more interesting to see how someone would handle a situation where they couldn't take the easy way out?
Batman not killing became part of his character, he knows he's so good at what he does if he decided to be judge jury and executioner it wouldn't be a good thing.
It's just distracting when they're trying to make him into some paragon in his mind, but he's seriously no different than the villains. It would've been better if Deadshot took out some good guy, and not just someone he was going to kill anyway.
Thunder Monkey
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After this last episode I think he's going to end up much stricter on that killing thing. I mean he's already taking the stance of "Only when absolutely necessary."
Soon he's going to have nets flying off the thing.
Wiktor
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Not if he does it all the time. It feels forced and extremely convulted this way.
Not to mention that when it comes to character's personalities and their growth I consider the "no killing" to be the easy way out.
No, he knows kids wouldn't be bying his comics otherwise. With Batman the no killing rule is very forced and doesn't make much sense outside of marketing purposes.
And that's bad...because? Anti-heroes are great too. I prefer them over white knights.
Plus just because he kills doesn't make him a villain. Motivations matter too. Plus he only kills when necessary. Do you consider good cops in police stories to be villains too?
LiveFromKyoto
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Back during the Mike Grell years he only carried normal and explosive arrows. He killed plenty of people.
Wiktor
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Back during the Mike Grell years he only carried normal and explosive arrows. He killed plenty of people.
Wow. So what are the good comics to start with Green Arrow?
How many people has he killed thus far? I can only think of one. The guy whose neck he snapped in the pilot. We don't know Deadshot is dead since the arrow went into the eye piece and I refuse Deadshot would go out like a bitch. The other people he's shot with arrows he's actually hit them in the shoulders and legs. Look where the impact is and you can see he's not shooting to kill.
Wiktor
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I think four so far. He killed all the kidnappers and then the the main bodyguard in the pilot. They did made it pretty clear than he just maims most of the guys he hits. Whenever he actually kills somebody it's always very obvious.
Green Arrow Year One by Andy Diggle, after that The Longbow Hunters.
LAUGHTREY
Modesty becomes a woman
Back during the Mike Grell years he only carried normal and explosive arrows. He killed plenty of people.
80 issues, and it never crossed over into the mainstream except when a dude named "Hal" showed up.
Seems dumb, but I guess that's what this is drawing from. I just don't like it. Grim-dark gritty reboots just seem to try too hard.
I'm not saying give him the arrow that explodes into a boxing glove, or having a million different arrows for whatever little situation he gets into, I'm saying it's dumb as fuck when he threatens someones life, then basically hunts down the bad guy because he sniped him instead of doing it to his face.
I really like the show. It's not as impactful as the first season of Lost or Breaking Bad, but it's a decent show to pass the time on sundaynights. I haven't heard of anything about the Green Arrow as a DC comic-book character, so maybe that helps. The thing I thought I recognized was Deathstroke's mask in the first episode, that's it.
LAUGHTREY
Modesty becomes a woman
It's like Superman, but he's got dreads.
krypt0nian
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This. Fits the theme and feel of the show.
Good comics to start with:
Green Arrow: Year One
The Longbow Hunters
Green Arrow (Mike Grell run. This is considered the quintessential GA run)
Green Arrow (Kevin Smith reboot...really good well into the 50s, with Brad Meltzer and Judd Winick handling writing duties throughout)
I'm weeping through the New 52 version of GA right now.
Green Arrow is my favourite DC hero, and I actually missed the pilot. I'm really excited for tonight's episode. I love the look and feel of the ads, and by the sounds of it, they've captured the look and feel of the comics. Plus, it's cool to have another hero to motivate you to work out.
Green Arrow: Year One
The Longbow Hunters
Green Arrow (Mike Grell run. This is considered the quintessential GA run)
Green Arrow (Kevin Smith reboot...really good well into the 50s, with Brad Meltzer and Judd Winick handling writing duties throughout)
I'm weeping through the New 52 version of GA right now.
Green Arrow is my favourite DC hero, and I actually missed the pilot. I'm really excited for tonight's episode. I love the look and feel of the ads, and by the sounds of it, they've captured the look and feel of the comics. Plus, it's cool to have another hero to motivate you to work out.
I don't know why the bludhaven mention made me as happy as it did.
Unspeakable Evil
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Tonight was my first episode, but I loved the breakneck pace and how much actually happened in 60 minutes.
For real. They must have quite the plot set up to be able to burn through all these huge plot points. I keep waiting for the show to let me down but this episode was one of the best.
Heh, I never thought the only two shows I'd be following regularly this year are Arrow and TMNT.
Heh, I never thought the only two shows I'd be following regularly this year are Arrow and TMNT.
Yup, didnt think they would get to this point nearly this fast, though having diggle dress up as Green Arrow makes a lot of sense
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