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Arrowhead Studios confirm PSN Account Requirement decision was on Sony - Game received over 15,000 negative reviews and is now 'Mixed' on Steam
lifa-cobex
Member
It's fucking bizzar.
"gaming is getting worse over the years. It's getting to corpo"
"oh you should absolutely make a PSN account that serves no benefits to you. It makes the Sony player base looks higher."
"I know you have a ton already but one more won't hurt."
My dude, the process of having to sign up to an account and install a separate launcher is far worse than the thing you're complaining about. It even includes the thing you're complaining about anyway.
How are you OK with signing up and having separate EA, Ubisoft, MS, ABK, PS launchers but consider just signing up on steam and linking an account too much? It really doesn't make any sense.
It's a one time link you don't need to keep logging in on 2 accounts.
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FunkMiller
Gold Member
Right?
So much complaining around here (rightly) that gaming is getting worse and worse due to corporate greed, over-reach, and executive bullshittery...
...but this is fine now?
When did so many gamers get so fucking cucked by corporations?
ChorizoPicozo
Member
guys... what's worse, Sony's censorship or Sony's PSN account? it seems the account drama has dwarfed stellar balde's.
JayK47
Member
The theme the last few weeks seems to be patches or so called upgrades that make a game worse in some way. Breaking mod support, added 3rd party apps, making costumes more modest, etc. As a PC gamer, it has gotten ridiculous with all of the game store fronts on my computer. I have Steam, Epic, EA, Ubisoft, and Xbox. On more than one occasion, I have purchased a game on Steam that requires Ubisoft, EA, or Xbox with the added 3rd party app giving me trouble and preventing or delaying me gaming. Delays usually come from requiring an update of the 3rd party app. But sometimes it just breaks and requires messing around with. An entire gaming session can be lost to me spending the time instead troubleshooting it. So it does effect me purchasing a game on Steam. If I see the 3rd party app requirement, I may not buy on Steam, or at least wait for sale with steep discount.
And I do not know about you, but I am so tired of registering with a new site and needing to keep track of yet another password and username.
And I do not know about you, but I am so tired of registering with a new site and needing to keep track of yet another password and username.
rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
Where I said is it too much? Its not about the trouble. it's about wasting computing resources and having to log to 2 accounts that can be hacked when I only really "need" 1.
lifa-cobex
Member
Hell. At least when EA, Ubisoft, MS, ABK, etc do it. They at least offer me a hand job behind the shed with a deal of some form.
Sony- "Just bend over. It'll only just take a quick sec. I'm going to tell my friends though just to show how popular I am."
"I know you don't want to do it but I'll tell them that you did"
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lifa-cobex
Member
Not sure about the relevance of this. Are you trying to say PS were blocking it to prevent additional "corpo" third party account registrations on Playstation? There wasn't any user opposition surprisingly as far as I remember outside of maybe just an occasional moan.Sony initially blocked it.
Sony defends decision to block PS4 cross-play with Xbox One and Nintendo Switch
Sony has defended its decision to block cross-play between PS4 and Xbox One after coming under fire from gamers this we…www.eurogamer.net
What PS need to do to learn from that playbook then is block the next Helldivers 2 "play together" update and say if you want the benefits of this update you need to sign in on PSN. Job done.
Whats the "deal" when you can't play Gears 5 single player without registering for a MS account on steam? What's the "deal" when rainbow six siege requires a Ubisoft Connect account? There is no deal.
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Topher
Identifies as young
Mr Moose
Member
This is the first time I am seeing this.
Fabieter
Member
Sony is really bad in selling their cooperate bullshit to their consumers. They handeld it really poorly.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Topher
Identifies as young
rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
There is. Don't buy them on Steam.
lifa-cobex
Member
The point being that they want you go use their store as apposed to using steam.
Their the compotation. Chances are if you go to their store you will probably see deals or discounts.
PSN offers nothing to a PC user.
BTW I'm not for having to register on other apps in order to play on steam. Having to register on Rockstar in order to play GTA5 is retarded.
It's fucking annoying and I've never met a person who is for them.
Well until today that is.
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AmuroChan
Member
I understand why PC-only gamers are upset since the benefits of linking your PSN account do not apply to them. They don't care about cross-progression, cross-save, trophy support, etc. However, they also have to understand that Sony will always prioritize PlayStation gamers first and foremost. As someone who plays on both, I want this. I want my trophies to be integrated. I want cross-save and cross-progression so that when I start a game on the PS5 and then go a trip for 2 weeks, I can pick up where I left off on the Steamdeck. Is it annoying for the PC-only gamers? Yes no argument there.
So you're saying you're getting raw dogged here because you bought the game on steam for $40 and it requires a PSN account?
What would have been better is if it was on its own launcher and app that required a PSN account for $35?
That's how ABK, Ubi, MS and co are not raw dogging you by requiring an account registration on steam when you've already bought the game on steam with steam prices. What a 'deal' that is.
So why are you asking for it for EA, MS, Ubi etc?
Ok, now tell me what deal you're getting if you did buy on steam but it requires EA, MS, Ubi account registration for no reason.
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AmuroChan
Member
If people don't want Sony to make their own launcher (which would be a much bigger annoyance I'd argue), this is the path of least resistance where Sony just integrates PSN into existing launchers to allow for cross-progression, cross-save, and trophy integration in future games.
MonkeyClaw36
Banned
Funny thing is that 10s of thousands are complaining, breaking down etc but we dont see that in the concurrent player numbers.
Spineless bastards are still playing.
Even 2 in my friendslist who complained and/or said to have uninstalled the game are in it RIGHT NOW.
Spineless bastards are still playing.
Even 2 in my friendslist who complained and/or said to have uninstalled the game are in it RIGHT NOW.
Sleepwalker
Member
Yeah but did you know Sony was hacked multiple times?
rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
Shitty deal.
They'd love to moan even worse at that.
nemiroff
Gold Member
Yeah how dare we use so much energy to move the cursor over to the "thumbs down" and click on it just to voice our displeasure over annoying and redundant corporate mechanisms. It's so perplexing why we don't just bend over and take it in the ass like a good boy bootlicker! /s
Disclaimer: I for one don't mind connecting to the PlayStation network, historically I'm closer to trophies than Steam achievements so-to-speak. I'm just saying that it's not exactly an overreaction for people to click a mouse button, and that we don't have to be geniuses to have some form of understanding for general consumer resistance in this instance - Especially when it's done retroactively.
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MonkeyClaw36
Banned
Boy it really bothers you doesnt it? Get a fucking life man.... Instead of spamming every thread covering this.
Its pathetic.
Exactly, so going back to this:
How are they offering a deal with their mandatory steam requirement in comparison? The answer is there is no deal.
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Solarstrike
Gold Member
Numbers. Numbers are data and data is pretty much money now. That's my guess, smh
For the same reason that MS, EA, Ubi etc do. Things like cross progression, better integrated crossplay, moderation etc.
Sony don't even report MAU anymore as far as I know.
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Draugoth
Gold Member
Inflating PlayStation Numbers to present them at earning calls, sell consumer data to other companies.
rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
I didn't say that. Why you are bringing other user post? Afaik, there is no good deal.
*Nightwing
Banned
Game server =/= Authentication serverThey did though!
Helldivers 2 Is Getting Another Server Cap Increase
Helldivers 2 developer Arrowhead increases server capacity once again, earning praise for its efforts to eradicate the issues in the game.gamerant.com
rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
We could, like I did. Don't buy a RTX 4000.
Because you replied to me in this chain saying there is a deal when my point was about requiring third party accounts on steam where you aren't getting a deal there either when they do it:
xHunter
Member
They want to be ready for next months monthly hack. Looks like they are going for the most hacked accs record.
nemiroff
Gold Member
Funny thing is that 10s of thousands are complaining, breaking down etc but we dont see that in the concurrent player numbers.
Spineless bastards are still playing.
Even 2 in my friendslist who complained and/or said to have uninstalled the game are in it RIGHT NOW.
Is there a rule that say that voicing an opinion always have to be followed by a boycott? I don't see the logic here. The pattern you're describing seems more like rational conduct.
I see two perspectives here:
One is "bothered" by a mechanism and is contributing to the on-topic.
The other one is bothered by a personal opinion to the extent that they're willing to aggressively insult someone over it.
Time to contemplate.
rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
You said there is no deal to play Gears 5 and R6Siege on Steam without MS and Ubi accounts. I said the deal is not playing on Steam so you don't need 2 accounts for 1 game.
Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
I really hope Sony doesn't back down on this and instead double down on this.
Review bombing is nothing but extortion at this point—it's my way or the highway for these spoiled children, who don't even care about employees who are hired in a studio that made a game they apparently love so much.
They bought a game without reading the requirements and are now complaining about something so insignificant. It's on them.
BennyBlanco
aka IMurRIVAL69
AmuroChan
Member
No, but please tell me again so I can mentally prepare myself for the next hack.
Mr Moose
Member
MAU, crossplay, easier to ban people.
near
Gold Member
Does Helldivers 2 not currently have crossplay functionality? I thought it did.
Mr Moose
Member
It does, but I could see that could be one of the reasons for it.
ManaByte
Banned
It has crossplay. Has had it since day 1. It doesn't have cross-progression yet so if you have it on both you have to level up two separate helldivers right now.