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Ash vs Evil Dead |OT| Kanda... Es-trata... Montos...

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Enk

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She wasn't recast. That was Denise Bixler, from Evil Dead 2. Pretty cool to see the actress again.

Edit: Stupid phone won't do quotes right.

Strange, the credits show her being played by actress, Rebekkah Farrell. If it was another actress then the likeness is uncanny. Did a side by side comparison shot and they got the look and the hair down pat.
 
I think I got through episode 5. Boy did this show turn into the worst pos ever.

A ton of ass and shit jokes, really bad acting, a whole bunch of meandering, predictable plot beats, and very poor special effects. There was something off about episode 1 and it just kept getting worse.

How do you go from Evil Dead 2 and Drag Me to Hell to this? Is it the staffing? Is Sam Raimi just less good at hiring a good writing and directing staff than most?

Anyone who has felt similarly, should I keep watching? Does it get better?

I understand Evil Dead 2 but who the hell would hold Drag Me to Hell as the pinnacle of Sam Raimi's career? That said, I do agree that there's too many shitty jokes. The acting is bad but the series has a pretty firm precedent for bad acting.

Anyway, the new episode was alright. Not as good as last week but had a few decent scenes.
 

spookyfish

Member
Strange, the credits show her being played by actress, Rebekkah Farrell. If it was another actress then the likeness is uncanny. Did a side by side comparison shot and they got the look and the hair down pat.

Shit. You're right. I saw she was credited in AvED and just assumed it was that episode. But it was for the flashback.

I agree -- they got that pretty darned close.
 

dlauv

Member
I understand Evil Dead 2 but who the hell would hold Drag Me to Hell as the pinnacle of Sam Raimi's career?

It was his last horror movie after Evil Dead 2 and a fairly recent standard to go by. Nothing about pinnacles, lol.

Anyway, by ep 8 it's getting better. Some good scenes. I also liked
Lem
in ep 7.
 

Kuroyume

Banned
There's nothing in this show that's different to me compared to what I've seen in Evil Dead 2, AOD, or DMH. I can't pick up on any of these nuances that make this show appear differently than any of those other films. To me it feels exactly the same. Maybe that's why I'm enjoying it so much.
 

Violater

Member
Killing Amanda and Ash's twin has pretty much brought the whole show down for me.
Twins, clones are right up there in the lazy writing department with time travel.
 

Enk

makes good threads.
Killing Amanda and Ash's twin has pretty much brought the whole show down for me.
Twins, clones are right up there in the lazy writing department with time travel.

Killing off side characters is in nature of Evil Dead. If you're not Ash you're probably going to die. Evil Ash has been a part of the series since, well, the original short Within the Woods. These things are usually to be expected when it comes to this series.
 

Violater

Member
Killing off side characters is in nature of Evil Dead. If you're not Ash you're probably going to die. Evil Ash has been a part of the series since, well, the original short Within the Woods. These things are usually to be expected when it comes to this series.

I guess my own fault for not having watched the original films. With the exception of the Evil Dead remake that came out a couple years ago.
 
Then just so you know, the entire Evil Ash bit was pretty much just the writers going "Don't worry, we haven't forgotten about the third movie, even though we can't directly mention any of it's events due to legal issues.".

...actually, the third movie also had time travel.

Loved the new episode btw, the whole show actually, even though there were some issues with the pacing and character motivations in a few eps during the middle of the season, but the show started out strong and going by the last two episodes it's going to end strong as well.
 

Holtz

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Damn, this latest episode was insane.
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wildfire

Banned
I've been following this series for the past few weeks and it has been solid on the thrills and chills. I'm bummed out at the abrupt end of Amanda even if she might be recurring as a deadite villain. I hope we get some more great demon designs like Eligos.
 

Kevin

Member
Yeah the last couple of episodes have been fantastic. Feels more in line with what I've wanted from this show. The work on the cabin is incredible. The attention of detail is insane. So glad we are at least getting a season two.
 

Kuroyume

Banned
Holy fuck that episode was amazing. Gore was off the charts. And really incredible special effects around the cabin while Xena was reading. Show feels right during night time too.
 

Trojan X

Banned
I don't understand why anyone would speak negatively about this show. I'm absolutely loving it! It's completely different and pays aplenty homage to the original movies. I watch the show without fail alongside with The Flash and other weekly shows. Again, I love it and hope a pray that it will have another season.

Oh yeah, that last episode was crazyyyyY!
 

Kevin

Member
I don't understand why anyone would speak negatively about this show. I'm absolutely loving it! It's completely different and pays aplenty homage to the original movies. I watch the show without fail alongside with The Flash and other weekly shows. Again, I love it and hope a pray that it will have another season.

Oh yeah, that last episode was crazyyyyY!

Season 2 has already been confirmed. :)
 
It's like people only watch it for the gore or something. The gore was part of the course at that point but it's certainly not what makes the show so good to me. The whole episode was way worse than last week's episode in my opinion, the humor was a let down and the ending with Lawless using the book for her own gain was predictable. Only her being the writer of it was a surprise, but what I'm more intrigued by is with how Pablo will or not get out of it and how if he does so.. I couldn't care less about Lawless's character, it's been pretty crappy since we first saw her too.

Was she even supposed to be friends with Amanda? Why was the demon trying to make it seem like they were? Christ, it's like when she died in the fire-y explosion Amanda couldn't care less. The whole episode felt sloppy to me.
 

Enk

makes good threads.
Fun episode! It was more of a "setting up the stage" ep for the season finale but there were several cool moments throughout. I do think the change in writers shows in this ep as some of the them throughout this series like their humor to be a little too cutesy (ex. the team huddle in the 2nd half), while Bassett's humor was more in line of the films. Tony Tilse's direction was still spot on but Rob Wright's writing wasn't all there. Also this one had one of the more creative deadite moments since the first episode. Even though these cabin episodes haven't been quite on par with the movies so far there were several moments where it finally hit me that I was finally watching Evil Dead 4. Fun stuff and I am looking forward to a crazy finale!

Quick thoughts (SPOILERS):

- Glad they brought up the subtle racism in Ash and that he's aware of it. It was weirdly endearing.

- This show is really abusing the hell out of the cabin and it's great!

- While I prefer they just stick with LoDuca's score for these eps (which has greatly improved in these past two eps) I thought the whole chopping up Evil Ash played out great. The gore was spot on and there was some fantastic use of shots and shadows on display.

- Even though there have been misses at times I do like when this show tries to take chances with the established norm of Evil Dead. Lots of stuff involving the book in this ep was cool to see. The Necronomicon talking to Ash cements my theory that he pretty much kept the book around in hopes that something like this would happen again and he would once again feel relevant. Deep down you can tell he knew the book was right.

- The whole alone time with Ash in the cabin, chopping himself up, simply walking to the toolshed, etc. was where it clicked with me that I was finally watching the fourth Evil Dead film I've been waiting so long for. Weird I know.

- I like how this show tries to attempt some continuity but slips in others. Like with Ash remembering that he left his shotgun by the shed, but at the same time he already happens to have the power glove back on.

- Jill Marie Jones gave it her all as a deadite and thought she was one of the best uses of a generic deadite since the pilot! The puppeteering of the hitchhikers' bodies was a wicked little sight gag.

- Post Amanda Deadite attack was where I thought the episode suffered, and it was mostly due to the word play between all of the characters. A lot of the humor didn't quite work for me here and it felt like the pacing just screeched to a halt.

- Once back in the cabin all shit gets real. Again, I loved the stuff they were doing with the book in this episode. The cutting off the face and that fantastic shot of watching it slowly peel off the floor and rise in the air.

- Of course those would be the names Ash would give his chainsaw and boomstick.

- There was some nice nods Raimi's camerawork when Ruby was reading from the book. Not just the Evil Force but the tilted zooms throughout the cabin.

- Did anyone else catch the "The Hero from the Sky" page?

- We all pretty much figured that Ruby wasn't all that she seemed since the fourth ep, but I didn't expect her to be the one of the Dark Ones that wrote the book. I guess this doesn't make her a Knowby? Or maybe it's a Dark One that is using Ruby Knowby's body as a host? I'm sure we'll all find out in the next thrilling installment of Ash vs Evil Dead!

- I figured Pablo was going to turn evil by the end of this season. The actor was strongly hinting it in interviews a while back. I'm liking the idea of the book's face latching itself onto a host. Pablo looking a little like Leatherface there.

- We now have 3 evil forces at play for the finale! Ruby, Amanda, and Pablobook (Pablook?) with possibly more to come. Glad they are ratcheting up chaos like in the movies.

- Side note, they are making it all too obvious that Heather is doomed to become a deadite, but it'd be cool and ballsy if it was a red herring and she wound up being the only survivor this season (other than Ash of course). Bad stuff always happens to these characters in this series. With the exception of a studio tampered ending, even Ash's story always ends on a downbeat note. I'm very curious as to how the final episode of this season plays out and how far the show runners are willing to go with their chances.

- Even though I'm a supporter of the half hour idea, I do hope that the finale is a little bit longer. Someone earlier in this thread mentioned that at least the first and last episodes should be 45 minutes in length which I think is a good idea.
 

Enk

makes good threads.
It's like people only watch it for the gore or something. The gore was part of the course at that point but it's certainly not what makes the show so good to me. The whole episode was way worse than last week's episode in my opinion, the humor was a let down and the ending with Lawless using the book for her own gain was predictable.

Ruby using the book for her own was predictable but mainly because they have been strongly hinting at it since the fourth episode. They haven't exactly been subtle about it.

As for why I like watching this, it isn't really about the gore. Sure that's part of it but Evil Dead is essentially a live action horror cartoon with a mean spirited streak which is why I can forgive certain moments and episodes that have had poorly conceived scenes or cringe worthy dialogue. If this were a more serious show then forced character moments like between Ash and Amanda would be even more problematic.

I watch Evil Dead for the creative moment to moment situations and the payoffs. I also watch it because of Ash and how he responds to these situations. He's essentially like the Three Stooges rolled into one and like that show this series doesn't try to take itself to seriously when it comes to developing characters and drama. The gore is essentially part of the slapstick and sight gags if done right. Army of Darkness wasn't gory but the weirdness was still present and made the film still enjoyable.

I've ranted on this show several times in the past but that was mainly due to me feeling that the creativity and energy being displayed in those moment to moment situations were lacking. These past two episodes for me have been what I've been hoping for since this series was announced. It's starting to nail those weird little random moments like in the films that make you wonder what crazy situation is going to come up next. In this episode I didn't like how the dialogue between Ash, Ruby, and the gang played out but I sat through it because I couldn't wait to taste the next mysteriously flavored jellybean the show was going to shove down my face hole.
 

Sub_Level

wants to fuck an Asian grill.
I love that all the characters besides Ash are actually vulnerable. Pablo and/or Kelly can straight up die next week. It does a good job of adding tension.
 

E the Shaggy

Junior Member
I thought this was up there with the pilot. Felt like Evil Dead, especially with the "Puppet" scene.

One twist I'm really crossing my fingers for is:

The final shot of the season introducing Mia from the ED remake into the series.
 

Enk

makes good threads.
I hope they both die! That would be great. Last scene is just Ash back at the bar ready to bone.

Not a bad idea (needs to have a last second FU note for Ash). I'd be sad though if they left the cabin by the end of the finale. I feel like the location has helped put everything into the right groove. Would love to have a bit more time there before the eventual time traveling begins.

Speaking of the bar, I'm surprised that they never followed up on the giant hole that appeared in front of there in the pilot. I was expecting them to check that out at some point.
 
Loved every minute of this show, not had one bad episode. Sure there was a few slower ones but still decent, certainly nothing terrible and those episodes let the characters and story develop a little.

Most of the minor problems came from the short episode runtime, as it made the slower episodes feel uneven next to the faster paced ones and it will probably work much better on blu-ray, watching them them all together, or even just 2-4 episodes at a time.

Overall though the show has been way better than I expected it to be, nailing the mix of horror, comedy and gore the series is known for. Cannot wait for the last episode and season 2 to arrive.
 

UrbanRats

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This show feels very random.
I'm not sure where they're going, but Ash is fun enough and the the episodes are short enough, that is worth following.

But if i stop and think about character arcs and such... probably best not to do that.
 

kurahador

Member
That was the best episode yet. The story has been kinda random, but seeing Ash reacting to all of it made me forgive it all.
I wish they elaborate more on the book by now.

Hope Pablo and that hot Australian girl going to be ok.
 

Macnair

Member
They're keeping the camper girl alive until the last episode. So there is a good chance Pablo and Kelly will live.

I really like Ruby with her Xena jump intro. I think she is shaping up as the antagonist for season 2 and the real boss next episode is Deadite Fisher.
 

Forsythia

Member
I thought this was up there with the pilot. Felt like Evil Dead, especially with the "Puppet" scene.

One twist I'm really crossing my fingers for is:

The final shot of the season introducing Mia from the ED remake into the series.

While I'm sure that won't happen, I'd love to see it. Maybe in season 2? Please?
 

asagami_

Banned
I find funny that the book is happier with Ash than with Ruby. It's like Ripley and the Alien, I guess.

btw the scene where the Book attach to Pablo's face remind me to Jojo xD
 
But if i stop and think about character arcs and such... probably best not to do that.

Yeah seriously... I mean we're led to believe that:

- Kelly is obviously devastated at the transformation and ultimate loss of her parents at the hands of the evil force

- Kelly is aware of the fact that Ash is responsible for negligently releasing the evil force, and

- Kelly harbors no ill will towards Ash outside of a brief dislike of his personality before becoming his loyal partner

I mean, I get it's a ridiculous comedy, the show has been generally entertaining and has hit some real high notes, but damn, it is highly advised that you do not stop and think at any point.
 
Is it just me or did they make several AoD references.

Yeah, this seems like the first episode in which they actually acknowledge that movie. Up until now it's been a mix of Evil Dead/2.

I'm excited for the finale and hope they end up opening a portal or something. Season 2 as an Army of Darkness "period piece" would be fantastic. Seeing our protagonists in medieval Deadite Europe would probably bump this up into my top 10 shows of all time.
 

Enk

makes good threads.
Yeah, this seems like the first episode in which they actually acknowledge that movie. Up until now it's been a mix of Evil Dead/2.

I'm excited for the finale and hope they end up opening a portal or something. Season 2 as an Army of Darkness "period piece" would be fantastic. Seeing our protagonists in medieval Deadite Europe would probably bump this up into my top 10 shows of all time.

I don't think they'll jump into time traveling so quickly, but can see them starting to head that direction near the end of next season. Even then they'll probably go with a different place and time period. I could totally see Evil Dead going Old West and paying some homage to The Quick and the
Evil
Dead, and then finally shooting off into the post apocalypse like they've been wanting to do.
 
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