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Ash vs Evil Dead |OT| Kanda... Es-trata... Montos...
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So this is how awesome Bruce Cambell is:
I was in line getting his autograph and in front of me is a kid and his mom. The kid asks if he can recite something to him from a play he's working on etc. Bruce says sure and the kid recites his lines as Bruce listens intently over a couple of minutes.
At the end Bruce leans into the kid over the desk and says "you know that was really great. That's the best thing I've heard in a while. Here is $20" pulls out his wallet and gives this 10 year old kid a $20 bill. Bruce says " This is yours, you earned it. It's your first paycheck and don't let anyone tell you what to do with it. It's yours you earned it."
That is fucking cool.
I was in line getting his autograph and in front of me is a kid and his mom. The kid asks if he can recite something to him from a play he's working on etc. Bruce says sure and the kid recites his lines as Bruce listens intently over a couple of minutes.
At the end Bruce leans into the kid over the desk and says "you know that was really great. That's the best thing I've heard in a while. Here is $20" pulls out his wallet and gives this 10 year old kid a $20 bill. Bruce says " This is yours, you earned it. It's your first paycheck and don't let anyone tell you what to do with it. It's yours you earned it."
That is fucking cool.
Anoregon
The flight plan I just filed with the agency list me, my men, Dr. Pavel here. But only one of you!
That can kid can get his SAG card now!
DirtyManos
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Absolutely loved it. Bruce's acting on leaving the bar freaked the fuck out but still singing had me dead on the floor. Knew then I was in for a great ride.
Can't wait for more.
Can't wait for more.
Stallion Dan
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Then he charged the kid $50 for a signed picture.
It was $40 and so? You had to prepay to even be in that line and I'm sure his mom paid. The guy probably sees thousands of people a day. I thought it was cool as hell. Someone like that telling you that you're great and giving you money out of his own wallet can really influence a kid.
Extra Sauce
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That actually sounds like the perfect Bruce Campbell story and echoes the combination of lovable and sleazy that's been discussed in this thread.
I wish Bruce Campbell gave me a twenty dollar bill mere seconds before charging me $40 for his autograph. That's priceless.
I wish Bruce Campbell gave me a twenty dollar bill mere seconds before charging me $40 for his autograph. That's priceless.
XxSlasherMcGirkxX
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I have seen him do something similar to someone else.
Also when does this show normally air.
Those having issues watching the premiere might have better luck over at Ash vs Evil Dead's Facebook page where they posted the full episode.
Saturdays at 9pm
Saturdays at 9pm
Holy shit
Mad Season
Banned
Loved it but terrible cgi
Dusk Golem
A 21st Century Rockefeller
For anyone who wants to watch the first episode (in America at least), they have the first episode free to be watched on Starz official website: https://www.starz.com/originals/ashvsevildead/featured
Likely the only episode that will be like that and timed to be up there, obviously.
Likely the only episode that will be like that and timed to be up there, obviously.
It wasn't sleazy lol. To even get in that like you had to prepay in a totally separate line earlier. Bruce owed him nothing, he just needed to sign whatever he brought. He took way more time with the kid than me for example. Not that I expected him too, the line was long. The point is he didn't move the kid along or ignore him. He genuinely listened and went out of his way to make the kids day/week/month.
GuitarAtomik
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Finally saw the first episode and it's basically perfect. Awesome blend of B-movie horror/gore and comedy. It's like they picked up right after Army of Darkness.
Speaking of, has the creative team ever confirmed that AoD is part of the timeline of this show?
Speaking of, has the creative team ever confirmed that AoD is part of the timeline of this show?
He basically glossed over the entirety of that during his retelling of ED2 including the whole portal part, though nothing rules it out.
I don't know much about digital photography but I didn't like the way different shots/scenes looked different, as though they were shot on different cameras. Very jarring to my eyes. And yeah the CG was disappointing. For a low budget Starz show, I can forgive it. I'd rather have this than no Evil Dead 4.
B_Spooky13
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Just got done watching it.. sooo good. My wife and I were cracking up laughing. They pinned Evil Dead feel
RoyaleDuke
Banned
I'm fiending for that second episode, the first one was so much better and everything I wanted in an Evil Dead sequel. Horror, spooky spookiness, and comedy.
Net_Wrecker
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Enjoyed the first episode immensely. Have my doubts that the rest of the season will compare stylistically, but hopefully it remains as fun.
One thing that popped into my head while watching is that I'm surprised this brand of high energy, ridiculous set-piece horror hasn't already been aped to death on TV. Something about how Looney Toons the whole thing is really fits the medium.
One thing that popped into my head while watching is that I'm surprised this brand of high energy, ridiculous set-piece horror hasn't already been aped to death on TV. Something about how Looney Toons the whole thing is really fits the medium.
Extra Sauce
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Again, I love the man and I love that story, I think it's the perfect Bruce memory... but let's admit the classiest move would have been for him to forfeit his fee instead of the slightly awkward "here's $20, now hand me $40".
spookyfish
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I'm wondering this, as well. I'm curious to see what they do/how they explain it, if so.
And you know Ted Raimi's popping up somewhere. I'm staying away from IMDB, as I don't want to be spoiled.
But he already stated that to get in that line you pay beforehand. Bruce isn't going to get out of line and go work the register to process a refund. Come on, dude.
youbastards
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Universal owns the rights to AoD, and Bruce/Sam don't get royalties for some of the licensed product from that movie, or so I have heard. I've also heard that Bruce has refused to sign some AoD merch because of this, particularly the more recent things like Dynamite's comic line where he doesn't get any royalties from them using the character of Ash.
That's ultimately why this show is Ash VS Evil Dead. Raimi owns Evil Dead and can do with it what he wants.
Per the retelling of the story to Pablo in the store, it appears as though Raimi is ignoring the 'travel back in time' plot at the end of EDII and is just making this a sequel to the original ED, with a little of EDII plot mixed in to flesh it out.
Edit:
Per an article on Bloody Disgusting from August:
http://bloody-disgusting.com/news/3357283/doesnt-ash-work-s-mart-ash-vs-evil-dead/
In fact, when we talked to producer Robert Tapert back in April, he eluded to this…
“’Army of Darkness’ doesn’t exist,” says Tapert before clarifying a bit. “Well, certainly Ash went through a bad experience, but we’re not really referencing it [on the show], specifics from that, but he certainly has that in his memory.”
Extra Sauce
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My understanding was that you pay a fee to get in line, then an additional fee for the autograph? If not then forget what I said.
Typically you pay all of that before you get in line-otherwise the line will Jam up with people fumbling for their wallets, etc
Stallion Dan
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lol what did I start.
That shot is legit ace
and no pun intended
I hope this show gets a lot of mileage here.
...who is this chick?
Center of the Mind's guitar solos what gets me crazy.
Guess Reality TV is what America gets off of it's Looney Tunees. =/
I do like how the film quality seems almost major motion picture like. Which seems funny considering the low budget nature of the franchise.
CloudyTuba
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The girl playing Kelly in a previous role. Her name is Dana DeLorenzo. You might have seen her in...Ash vs Evil Dead.
He owed that kid squat. We should just admire the guy's generosity and not quibble.
Team Filler
Member
Great first episode! I was rolling at the sleaziness of Ash arriving at the bar ten minutes before close to get some bar-skank tail through a sob story about his wooden hand. And then there was his look of realization on how the deaddites were brought back lol, Bruce Campbell is a national treasure!
...text...ugh.
I liked when he told the old woman to clean his trailer. The look on his face when he walked away...
Cipher Peon
Banned
Just saw the episode and I absolutely hated it.
The second it was revealed what started the outbreak, I suddenly became unhappy and it only went worse from there. From cringe comedy (which is already a crippling quality to have), to the atrocious effects, to the boring characters and awful dialogue, to the mindblowingly terrible premise, to the forced Evil Deadisms, not one thing after the intro brought me joy.
For me the lack of constraint led the show to have goals that it couldn't reach, there was no way that they could have afforded to have the scenes done as well as they wanted to. A subdued approach could have built up the situation and characters better while hiding the budget, but it had to be loud and out there.
Not the levels of Zombieland show bad, but a huge stinker from me.
The second it was revealed what started the outbreak, I suddenly became unhappy and it only went worse from there. From cringe comedy (which is already a crippling quality to have), to the atrocious effects, to the boring characters and awful dialogue, to the mindblowingly terrible premise, to the forced Evil Deadisms, not one thing after the intro brought me joy.
For me the lack of constraint led the show to have goals that it couldn't reach, there was no way that they could have afforded to have the scenes done as well as they wanted to. A subdued approach could have built up the situation and characters better while hiding the budget, but it had to be loud and out there.
Not the levels of Zombieland show bad, but a huge stinker from me.
TDLink
Member
I don't think you understand what Evil Dead is really about. For one, it's not an outbreak.
Cipher Peon
Banned
I've seen all of the films, dude.
And I used outbreak as a "you know what I mean" kinda term. Ash caused it all because he's dumb and was under the influence (which makes me even angrier but whatever). His idiocy is going to cost the lives of countless people. I know he's a goofball and Raimi enjoys torturing him for being stupid, but to sacrifice my caring of his character to really go out of the way to balloon that aspect (which wasn't one that I was too crazy about in Evil Dead II or Army of Darkness) was a really bad call to me.
It was so insulting that now I'm actively rooting for him to die. I hope he gets his just desserts for being such an ass. I'm going to continue watching the show and while I hope to enjoy it, I am absolutely fine with lots of complaining from my end.
EDIT: Also just because it grind my gears, I continue to be displeased with the "you don't understand" counter to criticism. I'd like to think I understand the series just fine and even if I didn't, the show shouldn't need to require understanding of its source material to appreciate it. The show should stand up on its own. I don't think it does. It infuriates me when people dismiss other people's feelings because "they don't get it".
Extra Sauce
Member
But you don't. The fact that you think Evil Dead should be "subdued" says it all, really.
Cipher Peon
Banned
I know what I said.
I said that I thought a subdued approach would have worked better because I do not think their grand expectations of quality were met due to an obvious lack of budget. The blood effects and doll scene were more than enough to make me say "screw trying to capture the style of the movies, just do your own thing please before I gouge my eyes out"
Television is a different medium than movies and a lack of a budget is expected, but I expected Raimi to do pull a miracle or at least do something cool with a lower budget like he did for the original film. But instead the poor effects were bad enough to upset me on top of all of the other problems I had with the pilot, which made me hate it.
Neuromancer
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What happened to the S-Mart? Was it not allowed because it came from Army of Darkness?
great show, or greatest show?
so good.
the hell? the doll scene was PURE Evil Dead. you crazy.
so good.
the hell? the doll scene was PURE Evil Dead. you crazy.
Cipher Peon
Banned
Yes! This is a sentence I can agree with. Especially in the original. But the original had a charm brought from its ingenuity, cleverness, and genuine love for the medium. You could tell the film was literally bursting at the seams with love for horror and while it couldn't match horror movies for their effects, it did something else entirely. Something special. I don't think the pilot managed this at all, especially since it came across as mean spirited.
I thought it worked for Evil Dead and Army of Darkness. I don't think it worked here. Evil Dead 2? Yeah, I'll say it worked there too.
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