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Hohenheim
Member
They did.
64bitmodels
Reverse groomer.
Who cares. We're in the here and now. Let's enjoy these things while they're here. PC hardware is iterative and it's still trucking along nicely, we don't need major Shakeups every gen
Klosshufvud
Member
Not sure how reliable this site is but I found this
videocardz.com
80Wh battery, 24 GB LPDDR5 RAM, USB4.0, revised dpad. Sounds like they basically turned the Ally into an AokZoe A1 Pro. If this is all true, then Ally X will be a true contender for best PC handheld. I am sceptical of the battery size claim though, doesn't really add up to the very modest weight gain. 80Wh battery would be godly.
ASUS ROG Ally X specs leaked: 24GB LPDDR5X-7500 memory and massive 80 Wh battery - VideoCardz.com
ASUS ROG Ally X confirmed with 24GB memory and doubled battery capacity We have an exclusive first look at ROG Ally X specs. No more rumors; the official specs of the ROG Ally X are here. The updated design will feature the same Ryzen Z1 Extreme APU, with 8 Zen4 cores and 12 RDNA3 Compute […]
videocardz.com
80Wh battery, 24 GB LPDDR5 RAM, USB4.0, revised dpad. Sounds like they basically turned the Ally into an AokZoe A1 Pro. If this is all true, then Ally X will be a true contender for best PC handheld. I am sceptical of the battery size claim though, doesn't really add up to the very modest weight gain. 80Wh battery would be godly.
Draugoth
Gold Member
Not sure how reliable this site is but I found this
ASUS ROG Ally X specs leaked: 24GB LPDDR5X-7500 memory and massive 80 Wh battery - VideoCardz.com
ASUS ROG Ally X confirmed with 24GB memory and doubled battery capacity We have an exclusive first look at ROG Ally X specs. No more rumors; the official specs of the ROG Ally X are here. The updated design will feature the same Ryzen Z1 Extreme APU, with 8 Zen4 cores and 12 RDNA3 Compute […]
80Wh battery, 24 GB LPDDR5 RAM, USB4.0, revised dpad. Sounds like they basically turned the Ally into an AokZoe A1 Pro. If this is all true, then Ally X will be a true contender for best PC handheld. I am sceptical of the battery size claim though, doesn't really add up to the very modest weight gain. 80Wh battery would be godly.
Pretty reliable
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Hohenheim
Member
This was confirmed in a preview by someone who had held it. The joysticks are tigheter and with better grip. I think they could easily be replaced too? Like on many of the pro controllers out there.
THE DUCK
voted poster of the decade by bots
The ASUS ROG Ally X improves on the original in all the right ways
The updates ASUS made with the ROG Ally X gaming handheld seriously up its appeal.
www.engadget.com
I noticed the writer said the $799 U.S price tage feels justified, I'd like to know if they are just saying that generally thinking people would be ok with it, or would actually buy one themselves at $1000 + Canadian dollars. Seems like a tough sell to me even with the improvements. I mean bestbuy sold a bunch of these at the start and tons were returned, it wasn't until they dropped to $649-699 Canadian did they move more stock out.
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Minsc
Gold Member
I'm pretty tempted to jump in, but I love that OLED. Still, VRR is great, and if it wasn't for the fact most of the games I'm played / that are queued up and even those that jump in like Selaco - they seem way more ideal on the Deck. Of course a real desktop is better for FPS, but damn trackpads are so much better than sticks. Like a magnitude better. And the game runs locked 60 almost perfectly (some say you can almost hit 90). So I don't think VRR will be of too much use on games that run at a solid 60.
But I am curious about the options it opens up, and think there's a good chance I'll grab one and end up loving it, despite it's flaws vs the Deck.
Thick Thighs Save Lives
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Asus opened pre-orders for the new Rog Ally.
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Official website says the sticks are "improved" but don't mention fixing the looseness specifically.
OverHeat
« generous god »
Hahahahahah 1100$ nope ain’t buying it.
Draugoth
Gold Member
3.5 times the price of Steam Deck for 40% peformance lmao
It’s $150 more than the equivalent specced Deck OLED.
There’s no honesty in comparing its price using the lowest specced Deck.
THE DUCK
voted poster of the decade by bots
Official website says the sticks are "improved" but don't mention fixing the looseness specifically.
Saw a couple of videos on YouTube today that specifically said the feel better and are more firm/increased tension. So that's good.
Had they slapped in an 8" oled it could justify the premium price tag better.
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SportsFan581
Member
Isn't that the strength of PC? To not get stuck with old hardware for years, unless you choose that option.
StereoVsn
Member
Deck OLED is $550. This is $
Edit: It’s about $250 more (plus requisite tax), looked on CA site. Below still stands. I strongly recommend against buying ASUS.
You do get absolutely terrible customer support that tries to scam you in case of any repairs needed. That’s a bonus only ASUS can provide though!
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Zathalus
Member
That's Canada, Deck OLED 1 TB there is $860.
StereoVsn
Member
Damn, that currency conversion really bites!
.Either way, unless you are in EU and got that sweet 2 year return to retailer warranty, I wouldn’t touch this with a 10’ pole (3 meters for my metric friends
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bbeach123
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we are not your friends feet lovers .Damn, that currency conversion really bites!
Either way, unless you are in EU and got that sweet 2 year return to retailer warranty, I wouldn’t touch this with a 10’ pole (3 meters for my metric friends
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Comparing the US price of the 512gb version of the Deck OLED to the Canadian price of the 1TB version of the Ally X.
Really?
StereoVsn
Member
Didn’t realize it was Canadian BestBuy till corrected. I still wouldn’t buy any ASUS device after GN showed how abhorrent their support is and they actively scam their customers.
Minsc
Gold Member
Damn, that currency conversion really bites!
Either way, unless you are in EU and got that sweet 2 year return to retailer warranty, I wouldn’t touch this with a 10’ pole (3 meters for my metric friends
Supposedly they improved their US warranty to a better, 2-year warranty now, per their facebook/website.
Anyway, with the extra RAM, double disk space, ability to use the SD card now without fear, and general all-around improvements, I'm looking forward to next weekend if that's the date you can grab them from BestBuy.
I think that does bump the cost quite a bit (the better ones you can buy off amazon are generally ~$70+), but I mainly charge with power banks anyway, and the extra speed will be nice there. I do have a 140W travel brick though, when it's not convenient to bring larger banks.
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THE DUCK
voted poster of the decade by bots
Minsc
Gold Member
Ah, I see, if so at the price they're charging they should have then. My main fear with power bricks is they are generally dumb. Most all dead device from charging issues with various hardware stem from using incompatible power bricks. A lot of time power bricks are going to be made for a specific device and if you try to use that brick for a different device, it may not be capable of switching to a voltage/amp combination that is safe for that device and you can screw them up big time. I think when Switch launched this was a semi-occurring issue for anyone using other bricks to charge the Switch.
So generally I avoid using pack in bricks entirely if possible (there's simply too many to keep track of from too many devices), and when not, I prefer to use a brick from Anker or another reputable company that had a logic chip in it and is capable of outputting many different voltage/amp combinations.
Still, I hear what you're saying about having one included, but it is unfortunately a not-too-uncommon thing when devices start support 100W+ charging speeds.
FinalBossWithTheMostPower
Member
Bought Z1X at Christmas and I've had zero issues.
I'll wait for ROG2 proper, but this is good news for anyone on the fence.
Now we just gotta wait for that cheeky bastard Chiggs and his bandwagon to go and shit on this.
I'll wait for ROG2 proper, but this is good news for anyone on the fence.
Now we just gotta wait for that cheeky bastard Chiggs and his bandwagon to go and shit on this.
hinch7
Member
After Gamer Nexus's experience with them, I wouldn't touch any more of their stuff. This is basically a refresh that fixes the faulty design of their first handheld, with a few tweaks and small upgrades.
From my personal experience, Valve have great customer service. I had to RMA my first SD due to a sticky trigger and they were good to deal with and quick to respond. The turnaround was pretty fast and took a couple weeks which wasn't bad; all considering I had to ship it to the Netherlands, at their cost.
THE DUCK
voted poster of the decade by bots
Your right, it's not fair since every single game you play will look better on the oled, even after you slap a 2tb ssd in there!
OverHeat
« generous god »
Look yes play no.Your right, it's not fair since every single game you play will look better on the oled, even after you slap a 2tb ssd in there!
Chiggs
Gold Member
I own a Legion Go and am trying to figure out what you're referring to.
The device has received plenty of updates.
Your right, it's not fair since every single game you play will look better on the oled, even after you slap a 2tb ssd in there!
You think? one will run games at higher settings, at a higher resolution, has VRR and maxes out at 120fps.
The Ally is LCD, yes, but has a much better LCD display than the mediocre one Valve went with for the first Deck.
There are tradeoffs to both systems.
THE DUCK
voted poster of the decade by bots
Look yes play no.
Actually, play too since the faster response time of oled reduces latency.
Wut. The Ally can put out better framerates at the same visual settings and has VRR support.
There’s no contest.
But it feels really distasteful to see warring over handhelds. Why is this even a thing?
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THE DUCK
voted poster of the decade by bots
That resolution at 7" is of very little use. Most games won't run at 120hz, so that's not very useful either. The vrr could be useful in some cases, but you can typically lock the frame rate where you need it on the deck.
Yes the lcd is decent, but it still loses the contrast battle by a fair margin. And the 7" screen on the asus is a fair bit smaller than the deck oled.
It feels like the tradeoffs are too great for no reason. Would have increased even more battery life with an oled too.
THE DUCK
voted poster of the decade by bots
Who's waring, it's called an opinion about the machine that isn't even out yet.
Marginally better frame rates. If we care about visual quality in terms of frames, why would we not also care about screen size and contrast? No contest is a pretty biased statement, at least I could say vrr has some appeal but you can't even understand the benefits of oled.
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Minsc
Gold Member
^^ I think the Ally X will be a bit more than marginal, I'd use that to refer to the difference between the Deck revisions, Ally could be as much as 50% faster FPS I believe. Certainly the difference between 25-45 in BG3 on the Deck or Diablo 4 running sub 60, to BG3 on the Ally maintaining 45+ all the time or D4 running at higher settings at VRR 60-120fps.
OLED + HDR are huge wins for a device though, HDR on LCDs just is meh.
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I'm all for super sizing our handhelds. Switch 2 I hope is an inch or more than the original, Deck 2, the same, and Ally as well. I know people love their pocketable handhelds, but I'm sure I could even buy the Go and think it's not enough.
Basically, I've never once owned a TV or Monitor or screen on a phone and felt it was too large. And I very much doubt that will be true of any of the popular handhelds, Ally X included.
OLED + HDR are huge wins for a device though, HDR on LCDs just is meh.
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I'm all for super sizing our handhelds. Switch 2 I hope is an inch or more than the original, Deck 2, the same, and Ally as well. I know people love their pocketable handhelds, but I'm sure I could even buy the Go and think it's not enough.
Basically, I've never once owned a TV or Monitor or screen on a phone and felt it was too large. And I very much doubt that will be true of any of the popular handhelds, Ally X included.
I bought a 512gb Steamdeck OLED at launch. I also own a 2024 27inch Alienware QD-OLED 1440p monitor. All the TVs in my home are LG OLEDs.
I think i understand the benefits of OLED quite well.
THE DUCK
voted poster of the decade by bots
Then you know it's not "no contest" for any lcd screen to be superior than an oled based machine.
I said it’s no contest that the Ally should post superior gaming performance - especially framerates - to the Deck.
Or that there are actual, well documents benefits of a VRR display when it comes to performance.
BennyBlanco
aka IMurRIVAL69
I am definitely gonna buy another handheld this year but ill wait to see what else comes out
Yeah. Strix Point later this year should be a meaningful jump.
Also reports Intel will hope their new Lunar Lake chips are much better for handhelds than the Meteor Lake that flamed out in the MSI Claw.
Calverz
Member
I had the original deck and traded it for the ally. The screen was a massive upgrade. I have OLED tv's and appreciate the tech, but the 1080p VRR screen is a massive difference. Even for 7". Yes a lot of modern games wont run at 120fps but with the boost in power, and the VRR, even games that hit 70-90fps feel incredibly smooth.