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AusGAF 8 - Worksafe Wankers

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Yagharek

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Well that's a new one.

What's good about the show? I've seen it once or twice and it comes across as hammy and seems to fall into the trap of repeating false arguments from forums.

To its credit they aren't obnoxious at least, unlike Geoff Keighley types of shows.
 

Rezbit

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OK, sure, the last few minutes were terrible and invalidated just about everything I'd done in the three games. But up to that moment, I really enjoyed it. Felt pretty satisfying as the third part in the trilogy.

Admittedly, after a ridiculously, hilariously terrible intro and just a catastrophic ending, there were some really good missions in there.

Unfortunately as a whole though, I found it worse than ME1 and ME2. Also, as a die-hard fan, and someone who really got into the whole universe of ME, that ending was a total deal-breaker for me. Probably put in over 120 hours over the 3 games.....for that. At least I was laughing by the end of the game. May have been like this laugh though...
 

HolyCheck

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OK, sure, the last few minutes were terrible and invalidated just about everything I'd done in the three games. But up to that moment, I really enjoyed it. Felt pretty satisfying as the third part in the trilogy.

agreed, great character closure, great continuation of stories. Heck I didnt even mind the ending, because for me it was more about the choice I made then the outcome. Which of the three paths I would take, based on how much I had done and learnt. It was a difficult choice to make.
 
The ending was fine, people overplayed the consequences of your decisions throughout the game anyway.

The game itself was goodish. 7/10 kinda stuff. Level design and writing was pretty average. Lore wasn't as enjoyable as 1, combat encounters worse than 2, companions weren't as fleshed out and impressive as in 2 and the decision to relegate such an interesting companion to Project $10 dlc was strange to say the least.
 

Danoss

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Sorry to go off topic, looking for a camera to buy 200-300 dollars. I know some of you are into photography, this camera is going to be used for a US/Canada trip next year so I guess if possible it should be good in low light etc

I'm going to echo Cods' choice of the Canon S100. I have the model before it, the S95 and it's very good indeed. The S100 replaced it and included GPS for geo-tagging, a new and improved sensor, and the ability to record 1080p video. I'm sure you'd be very happy with it.

Whilst the S100 is not horrible in low-light, don't expect too much from it in this area (though your expectations and mine might differ here). The sensor is not big enough to be a big performer in this area, you'll need to at least double your budget to pull that off. If your subject isn't moving, the image stabilisation (reduces the effect of your hand shaking) in the camera is quite good. Nothing else in the price range of this camera can compete with it. Be sure to pick up an extra battery.

The S110 is available, but I wouldn't bother with it. It sacrifices the built-in GPS of the S100 for Wi-Fi connectivity, and adds a touch screen to the back, which is neither here nor there. Nothing else is different; skip it.
 

Yagharek

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As someone who hasn't and won't be playing ME3, it was a great example as a spectator to watch the tension and disconnect between the games media, the games industry and the customer base.

I cannot remember a single other example where a game got perfect scores across the board and received such a backlash. If you look at games that got lots of perfect scores - be it Ocarina of Time, GTA4, Halo for example, there was never any reaction like with this one. GTA4 got a little bit, but that has been a slow burn incident where press hyperbole about Oscars came back to bite them.

I think that's the real crux of it. Hyperbole is the only language used in marketing campaigns and many reviews these days. People fall for it, and on occasion when a "10/10" game falls flat, it's going to be far more an issue than someone being upset at a game like Vanquish being too short.
On top of that, thanks to social media rather than letters to the editor, game players can write back to the publishers, reviewers and get a much more dramatic response in return.

Of course, then reviewers might hold back next time, give a game an 8/10 and get death threats.

It's such a strange and unhealthy relationship between the media, the games industry and the customers.
 

Kritz

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To counter JASE's points, which were by and large well presented, I'd like to make the argument that if a publication or a television show or an entity is going to rate a game like Mass Effect 3, or Assassin's Creed 3 as their Game of the Year, while that might still be their opinion, it's an opinion I'm going to use to judge said entire entity.

Because even if they might legitimately think their game of the year is some amazing thing, they've made a choice that makes their opinions irrelevant to myself and likely the majority of people who dislike those kinds of big budgety bullshit games. Of course, Good Game seem to exist whether I pay attention to them or not, so more power to them and their stupid fucking score scale.
 

Yagharek

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I'm not sure if everyone realised, but I was being facetious when I made the "Journey couldn't be GOTY because it wasn't long enough" remark. I also thought the "I gave $5 to a busker as I walked past but I gotta get 15 hours outta a game" was a clear indication of this too.

Just to be clear though, I do not believe that games need to be a particular length of offer replayability to be considered for GOTY. Experience is all that matters and Journey packed far more experience into 3 hours than most games I've played in the last couple of years.

:)

Ahhh balls. I missed the busker comment completely.
 

HolyCheck

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Damaged my wrist back when I went to adelaide. So now I have to wear this wrist brace thing until I see the specialist next week.

Making light of a bad situation:

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To counter JASE's points, which were by and large well presented, I'd like to make the argument that if a publication or a television show or an entity is going to rate a game like Mass Effect 3, or Assassin's Creed 3 as their Game of the Year, while that might still be their opinion, it's an opinion I'm going to use to judge said entire entity.

Because even if they might legitimately think their game of the year is some amazing thing, they've made a choice that makes their opinions irrelevant to myself and likely the majority of people who dislike those kinds of big budgety bullshit games. Of course, Good Game seem to exist whether I pay attention to them or not, so more power to them and their stupid fucking score scale.
I totally agree. Much in the same way that everyone is entitled to their opinion, regardless of if I see eye-to-eye with them, that opinion forms the basis which which I scrutinize their opinion on other media. If someone stated that [insert a game I consider bad game here] was their Game of the Year and then a few months later that [insert new game here] I would be wary about playing that game.

After a period of time, recurring differences of opinion affect the weight with which I will consider their judgments. After a while, all you really can do is admit that your tastes differ to such a degree that there is no longer a relevance in seeking their reviews. Unless, of course, it's used as a counterbalance.
 

Yagharek

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I totally agree. Much in the same way that everyone is entitled to their opinion, regardless of if I see eye-to-eye with them, that opinion forms the basis which which I scrutinize their opinion on other media. If someone stated that [insert a game I consider bad game here] was their Game of the Year and then a few months later that [insert new game here] I would be wary about playing that game.

After a period of time, recurring differences of opinion affect the weight with which I will consider their judgments. After a while, all you really can do is admit that your tastes differ to such a degree that there is no longer a relevance in seeking their reviews. Unless, of course, it's used as a counterbalance.

Put less eloquently, this is why I stopped reading Edge and Games TM.
 

Yagharek

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GAMES - I've jumped back in to Wipeout HD this week since Ive been floating the idea of getting a Vita (WO2048 one of the reasons).

Sol 2 is a beautiful track. Sebenco Climb is an evil re-imagining of Sargamatha from 2097. It's still one of the best racing games this generation or the last 4, going back even as far as Sega Rally and Daytona and PGr2.

I also got my first contender eliminated in years. That is, my ship blowing up, not another one
 

Danoss

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One of our butchers works part-time making small goods, and is a real top bloke. He threw in some beef jerky with our meat order today, normal and smoky flavoured. I've never had it before, interested to see what it's like.

"If you don't like it, stiff shit, because you didn't pay for it anyway" to use his words.
 

Jintor

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I thought Vita wasn't region locked except for the digital store. That's why my US copy of Virtue's Last Reward works.
 
Memory cards get locked to whatever region you have dowload content on them though so you either need multile memory cards or do alot of backing up of data if you want multiple region PSN accounts
 

Clipper

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One of our butchers works part-time making small goods, and is a real top bloke. He threw in some beef jerky with our meat order today, normal and smoky flavoured. I've never had it before, interested to see what it's like.

"If you don't like it, stiff shit, because you didn't pay for it anyway" to use his words.

Mmm, jerky....

It's pretty hard not to like it, provided you like meat. Enjoy, mate!
 

Jintor

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Also I never played Persona 4... I just somehow got immersed in the franchise without ever actually owning it in any form.

Well, i guess I have the anime DVDs

and two artbooks
 

teekun

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Of all the things Persona you could have tried first, the anime is the worst :(

Get P4. It's easily the best RPG for the PS2, and P4G is even better from all I've heard.
 

Lafiel

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Didn't know P4 vita had that much enhancements over the original. I'd have to look into it sometime, when I get a PS Vita in the far future.:p
 

Yagharek

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Of all the things Persona you could have tried first, the anime is the worst :(

Get P4. It's easily the best RPG for the PS2, and P4G is even better from all I've heard.

P4G is just a director's cut + extras over the original PS2 game isn't it? i.e there is no missing content from it? Not that it particularly bothers me if there is, seeing as I've only ever played two hours of SMT Lucifer's Call aka Nocturne in any of the SMT/Persona games.
 

Yagharek

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People are still reporting Wii U hard locks after the latest update. ;_;

I guess I'll wait til E3 for sure now. I'm still flip-flopping over what to do.
 

Rezbit

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People are still reporting Wii U hard locks after the latest update. ;_;

I guess I'll wait til E3 for sure now. I'm still flip-flopping over what to do.

To be honest, if you're not that keen right now waiting never does any harm at all. Wait until it's more stable, has more games, and likely has a price-cut. All you're really missing out on is NSMBU and ZombiU, if you're even interested in them. Otherwise eh, shitty ports.
 

teekun

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P4G is just a director's cut + extras over the original PS2 game isn't it? i.e there is no missing content from it? Not that it particularly bothers me if there is, seeing as I've only ever played two hours of SMT Lucifer's Call aka Nocturne in any of the SMT/Persona games.

As far as I know, there's nothing missing, just tons of enhancements. It's not stripped down interface-wise like P3 PSP was, either.

If you've never played any of these games before, just be warned of one thing about P4: the intro is painfully long. It takes a good couple hours before you're playing the game properly. The story is interesting, so that helps, and if you weren't interested in the story in the first place, you shouldn't really be playing anyways. But it's worth dealing with the frustration. Once it gets going and you've got some freedom, it's loads of fun and incredibly deep.
 
>_< FFS while I was away from the internet my favourite Usenet Search Engine (and basically the only one that actually worked properly) shut down. If only NZB Matrix wasn't so shit all the time :(
 

Danoss

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What's bad about NZBMatrix? I switched to them a while ago since I thought they were head and shoulders above the rest.
 
Can't get 2 newest Gossip Girl episodes through them. Unless I download a 2GB version of it. Why the fuck would I need SUPER HI DEF versions of fucking Gossip Girl? I would prefer a 300MB copy that I can download in a quarter of the time and get watching the fecking thing (well, not me but you know what I mean).

That is my issue today with them.

Mysterbin had EVERYTHING that was put on Usenet. And I mean everything. If it wasn't found through NZB it would show up in Mysterbin. I just wish NZB would collect more. I don't even bother trying to get music from them any more. Might have to end up going torrent again since direct downloads seem to be corrupting once downloaded >.>
 

Danoss

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That's fair enough. I'd never even heard of Mysterbin until now. Usenet has always been rubbish for music, and it gets worse the further you stray from popular artists. Maybe it's a bit different if you go for a browse, rather than relying on sites to do the work for you, I'm not too sure since I haven't really bothered doing it myself.

The difference may be that Mysterbin was an indexer and NZBMatrix relies on NZBs being posted. I may be mistaken here, but that can make a noticeable difference between sites. I don't stray too far from the norm, which is probably whY I haven't noticed too many issues. The latest episode of 666 in HD is stuffed (missing) on NZBMatrix, so there's one.
 

jambo

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Can't get 2 newest Gossip Girl episodes through them. Unless I download a 2GB version of it. Why the fuck would I need SUPER HI DEF versions of fucking Gossip Girl? I would prefer a 300MB copy that I can download in a quarter of the time and get watching the fecking thing (well, not me but you know what I mean).

Can't get 2 newest Gossip Girl episodes through them. Unless I download a 2GB version of it. Why the fuck would I need SUPER HI DEF versions of fucking Gossip Girl?

Can't get 2 newest Gossip Girl episodes through them.

Gossip Girl

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EDIT: Also I just searched for the latest episode and there were 4 copies uploaded, one of which is 360 MB...
 

EatChildren

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And who am I? That's one secret I'll never tell.

You know you love me.

XOXO, Gossip Girl.
 
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