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AusGAF 8 - Worksafe Wankers

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Gazunta

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I honestly cannot recommend How To Win Friends And Influence People highly enough.

Book seriously changed my life. I'm kicking myself for not reading it ten years earlier.
 
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Deeku

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literally bumped into Steven Chow aka Shaolin Soccer Kung Fu Hustle etc dude when i was entering the men's room at restaurant:OOO

Jintor said:
I went to an anime club thing today.
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i thought i indirectly told you specifically not to do this lol
 
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Jintor

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commanderdeek said:
literally bumped into Steven Chow aka Shaolin Soccer Kung Fu Hustle etc dude when i was entering the men's room at restaurant:OOO


i thought i indirectly told you specifically not to do this lol
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hoW am I going to run randomly into celebrities if I don't force myself into social situations deek
 
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viciouskillersquirrel

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Gazunta said:
I honestly cannot recommend How To Win Friends And Influence People highly enough.

Book seriously changed my life. I'm kicking myself for not reading it ten years earlier.
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My wife has a copy of it lying around somewhere. I should read it sometime.

I just know that talking about themselves thing from osmosis, probably from her.
 
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Danoss

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viciouskillersquirrel said:
Ask people questions about themselves. People love talking about themselves.
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I've heard this through other people as well, and it's true. It does only work for as forthcoming as the person is, if they're not giving you much to go on then it is very hard to pose more questions based on what they say. This is likely due to me asking the wrong questions, not picking up on certain things or not being creative enough, however.

As for conversations with particular people, I like this quote: "Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people."
 
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Lafiel

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BananaArnie said:
ah i guess your right, might as well never watch a movie again seeing as i thought that this one looks kinda weird. yep no more movies for me. thanks laf youve saved me a lot of time and money.
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Do you flip pages through a book to find out whether it's for you or not? cinema is meant to be experienced, not judged by flipping through frames with no context for any of it.
 
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Omikron

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http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/...cs-of-dishonesty/story-e6frerc6-1226600078631

TONY Abbott's Liberal Party is attempting to lie its way into government, nothing more nothing less.

They are lying to you about the state of the economy when they talk about restoring growth (we haven't lost it thank you very much), restoring jobs (unemployment is at a historically low 5.4 per cent, against an average of about 6 per cent during the Howard years), and a "debt burden" that is the envy of the rest of the world and low enough to mean we are one of only seven nations to have a AAA credit rating.

They are lying about the impact of putting a price on carbon (Whyalla is still standing, lamb roasts are not $100, investment is still booming and Abbott, as it was with a certain set of accounts from BHP, can't read an electricity bill apparently). And on this front, they and other climate change deniers are lying to you about Australia "going it alone" in terms of the global push to reduce greenhouse gas emissions.

The party that is led by a man who has confessed on national television to having problems with the "gospel truth" is also lying through its back teeth about immigration and asylum seekers. Not that this should come as anything of a surprise from the mob that brought you TV ads with great red "invasion" arrows during the last campaign.

One of the latest grubby ploys has been a series of (unbranded) leaflets in strategic seats in NSW and Victoria spreading fear and division about the alleged cost of "Labor's illegal boat arrivals".

Forget even some of the very rubbery numbers used to get a big scary $6.8 billion headline (or $12.8 million a boat). Just consider the use of the word "illegal" three times on just one side of the pamphlet, authorised by Liberal Party directors Mark Neeham and Damien Mantach in NSW and Victoria respectively.

That is three barefaced lies before you even get to the alleged substance of the hate mail.

Quite simply, it is not illegal to seek asylum. Got that? Not illegal.

Under Australian and international law, a person is entitled to seek asylum in another country when they allege they are escaping persecution elsewhere.

"Everyone", says Article 14 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, "has the right to seek and to enjoy in other countries asylum from persecution."

People who arrive on our shores with no documents, or even false papers, have the legal status of asylum seekers under said international law. They are human beings, not "illegals", no matter how many times those who seek to exploit their plight for their own venal ends try to tell you otherwise.

The lie was repeated again yesterday by the Opposition's Scott Morrison - a man who has constantly amazed with the hitherto undiscovered depths he has been able to plumb in this debate.

Morrison is the proud Christian (Pentecostal division) who wanted to deny relatives of asylum seekers who drowned in the Christmas Island boat tragedy in 2011 the chance to fly to Sydney to attend relatives' funerals.

This is the same Morrison who has tried to whip up a campaign against the threat of Muslim immigration, who has warned of guns and communicable diseases.

It is the same merchant of lowest-common-denominator xenophobia and fear who more recently called for mandatory notification of asylum seekers to local police and residents in the areas where they are housed.

This followed the charging of a Sri Lankan asylum seeker with indecent assault - ignoring the fact that, statistically speaking, asylum seekers are 45 times less likely to be charged with an offence than other residents.

Even his own side of politics could barely disguise their disgust, with Victorian Liberal backbencher Russell Broadbent arguing that there should "never be special categories of laws for different categories of people", and describing Morrison's proposal as "vilification".

Yesterday, though, he was in the press vowing to deny asylum seekers access to an independent review tribunal should they receive a negative assessment.

"These latest figures have confirmed," he thundered, "that under Labor's appeals process a 'no' almost always turns into a 'yes' and the prize of permanent residence for people who arrive illegally by boat."

Perhaps this is the latest lap in the race to the bottom on this issue being staged by both sides of the politics following the Gillard Government's disgraceful dog whistling over 457 visas (actually, shouting "dirty job-stealing foreigners" from the rooftops is hardly dog whistling, but you know what I mean).

Regardless, though, it is another attempt - dripping with mendacious politics - to rob our society's most vulnerable and dispossessed of one of the few legal rights they have left (and as such would likely be challenged in the High Court).

Like all the cynical posturing from both sides, it is shameful, and I would like to think Australians are smart enough to see through the lies, and compassionate enough to condemn those who peddle the poison.
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Hah.
 
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Danoss

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Shaneus said:
I like that idea. Let's discuss it.
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I like the cut of your jib.

Also, in today's news I wonder why I continue to torture myself so.

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Edit: The above shipped from OzGameShop on Thursday. They're new to the board game arena and already they're making other shops looks like chumps.
 
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Omikron

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Danoss said:
I like the cut of your jib.

Also, in today's news I wonder why I continue to torture myself so.

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Edit: The above shipped from OzGameShop on Thursday. They're new to the board game arena and already they're making other shops looks like chumps.
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Nice one, I just stuck money down on the new Flash Point expansion (plus the other 2...and bonus crap) on kickstarter...
 
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Poimandres

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I've got a bad case of the hypes for Bioshock Infinite.

Managed to get a friendly GAFer to hook up the $45 STEAM price. Since it's very likely to include XCOM, the price is an absolute steal.
 
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Kritz

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Danoss said:
Edit: The above shipped from OzGameShop on Thursday. They're new to the board game arena and already they're making other shops looks like chumps.
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They shipped King of Tokyo a week ago and I'm still waiting on it. But, Tasmania delay and all.

... I kinda want to buy Ticket to Ride and whatever that farm game is called.

To be honest, I kinda just want to buy a lot of board games and see what they play like as I try and work out what my taste is.
 
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Omikron

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Kritz said:
They shipped King of Tokyo a week ago and I'm still waiting on it. But, Tasmania delay and all.

... I kinda want to buy Ticket to Ride and whatever that farm game is called.

To be honest, I kinda just want to buy a lot of board games and see what they play like as I try and work out what my taste is.
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Agricola?


As for mechanics.... I would go something like these as the major ones to try....incl ones that I personally have played and recommend in brackets.

Worker Placement (Agricola, Stone Age, Carcassonne, plenty of other pure euro games)
Role Selection (Race for the Galaxy, Puerto Rico)
Press your luck (Incan Gold)
Auction / Bidding
Area Control (Samurai)
Dice Rolling (Kingsburg)
Set Collection (Lost Cities, Zooloretto / Coloretto, Ticket to Ride)
Co-operative (Pandemic, Flash Point: Fire Rescue, Ghost Stories)


Couldn't think of too many examples of Auction / Bidding sort of games that I have played, I think this is likely because I play 2P most of the time and auction games in particular you need more.

More complete list here: http://boardgamegeek.com/browse/boardgamemechanic
 
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bomma_man

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The New Yorker has done one of its massive, amazing profiles on our Gina

He was an ardent Western Australia secessionist. Historically a poor, backward, isolated state—Robert Hughes described it, in “The Fatal Shore,” as “a colony with a body the size of Europe and the brain of an infant”
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lol

The sheer distorting weight of Rinehart’s wealth is perhaps best understood in relative terms. The American economy is ten times the size of Australia’s, so in the United States an individual fortune equivalent to hers in relation to the national economy would be somewhere around two hundred billion dollars. That is roughly the combined net worth of the four richest Americans. Or seven Michael Bloombergs.
Australians are not known for their deference to the moneyed. I once worked as a pot washer in a casino restaurant in New South Wales. It was a big kitchen, and the pot washers were at the bottom of the job ladder, below even the dishwashers. And yet we made an excellent wage and, as employees, we had entrée to the casino’s private members’ bar, which was on the top floor. We would troop up there after work, tired and ripe, and throw back pints among what passed for high rollers on that part of the coast. Once or twice, my co-workers spotted the owner of the casino in the members’ bar. They called him a rich bastard, and he, in turn, bought us all drinks.
That was 1979. Australia, to my enchanted eye, was a country full of wisenheimers, smart-mouthed diggers with no respect for wealth or authority. Jack’s as good as his master, the saying went—and “probably a good deal better,” Russel Ward wrote in “The Australian Legend.” This skeptical, irreverent, proud self-image was rooted in the early experience of convicts transported from Britain and, later, in labor conflicts with landowners and industrialists. Australia was the land of the fair go—of equal opportunity, and a fair day’s pay for a fair day’s work. People used to make fun, in the nineteenth century, of the “bunyip aristocracy”: nouveau-riche Australians who wanted to settle themselves on top of the colonial social heap.
All that is changing. Inequality is on the rise. The share of income going to the top one per cent in Australia has doubled since 1979. (It is still less than half the share going to the top one per cent in the United States. Sixty years ago, the two countries were, by this metric, nearly the same.) According to many critics, including leaders of the current Labor government, Gina Rinehart and her fellow-billionaires pose a direct threat to Australia’s egalitarian tradition.
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I like this.
 
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Kritz

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I'll probably get Ticket To Ride, and then Pandemic since I've seen a few people on AusGAF enjoy it and heard it mentioned on enough podcasts that it's worth the price of entry to subdue my curiosity.

I really, really love Carcassonne.

I've mentioned it before, but the usual player size of my games is between myself, my sister and my father, and rarely a forth seat. So any games that are ideal / work well with 3 people are going to get priority.
 
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Danoss

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Omi said:
Nice one, I just stuck money down on the new Flash Point expansion (plus the other 2...and bonus crap) on kickstarter...
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I saw you mention that earlier today. I'd jump all over that but I have enough co-op games that don't get enough love already. I might cave in towards the end of the Kickstarter because I am weak.

Kritz said:
They shipped King of Tokyo a week ago and I'm still waiting on it. But, Tasmania delay and all.

... I kinda want to buy Ticket to Ride and whatever that farm game is called.

To be honest, I kinda just want to buy a lot of board games and see what they play like as I try and work out what my taste is.
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It probably helps that I'm one day postage away from the airport where all this stuff arrives.

If your gaming group can take a joke, and I mean other players making fun of what they've made and then the game smashing it to bits on them, then take a look at Galaxy Trucker. OGS link.

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Couldn't think of too many examples of Auction / Bidding sort of games that I have played, I think this is likely because I play 2P most of the time and auction games in particular you need more.
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I'll jump in here and say Power Grid is an excellent choice. You'll be doing maths in your head throughout the game, but it is great and more tactical than just wrecking peoples shit with math. Get The Robots expansion if you want some 2 player action, otherwise it's no fun.

Cyclades has some auction/bidding in it, but also has some area control to it. Dungeon Petz does too, but has more worker placement in there.
 
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Omikron

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Kritz said:
I'll probably get Ticket To Ride, and then Pandemic since I've seen a few people on AusGAF enjoy it and heard it mentioned on enough podcasts that it's worth the price of entry to subdue my curiosity.

I really, really love Carcassonne.

I've mentioned it before, but the usual player size of my games is between myself, my sister and my father, and rarely a forth seat. So any games that are ideal / work well with 3 people are going to get priority.
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Pretty much all those listed will work particularly well for 3 except for Lost Cities, because it is strictly 2P only.

As for games to go to... depends how complex you want to get really, things like Puerto Rico, Race for the Galaxy, Agricola can suffer from a bit of what is called 'analysis paralysis'.... especially for the former as you try to figure out which role suits you at a given time etc.

RftG can also be super complex just from all the damn symbols as well.


@Danoss - yeah, I haven't actually played Power Grid. Would have picked it up recently (instead of Ghost Stories!), but always out of stock. I know I will like that game....just based on style.
 
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FallbackPants

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If I can't find it I'll zinio it. Wait, is it on zinio? I'll check.

It does not appear to be. Fuck it I'll just read it online. I tried print media. I really tried
 
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bomma_man

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FallbackPants said:
If I can't find it I'll zinio it. Wait, is it on zinio? I'll check.

It does not appear to be. Fuck it I'll just read it online. I tried print media. I really tried
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if i wasn't so poor i'd buy an ipad just for the print 'experience', because it really is so much nicer than reading it on a laptop
 
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Jables Swan

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Danoss said:
I like the cut of your jib.



Edit: The above shipped from OzGameShop on Thursday. They're new to the board game arena and already they're making other shops looks like chumps.
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I normally go through Milsims but due to them never having any stock I'm looking for another website to order through. I'll give OzGameshop a go if they are decently priced.
 
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FormallyMegadrive

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Danoss you're a photography guy right? Any ideas where to buy 6v Maxell batteries for cheapish? Specifically the 2CR5? My girlfriend has a Pentax SF7 film camera and it uses those batteries.
 
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