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Danoss

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Rant warning.

My mother has been here since Wednesday. Why the fuck can't she just leave? No one needs her here, she's just being a fucking menace. Here's a further sample of what she's like to be around.
  • She asked me to show her something. I did. She didn't understand. Instead of telling me that, she started an argument.
  • Went and bought coffee that my gran drinks because she ran out. Mother would rather she has decaf. Solution: start an argument.
  • I didn't do something that she never asked by an arbitrary time limit she set in her own head. Don't say anything at all, no that's too easy, start an argument instead.
  • Pretend there's a longer list with more petty reasons to start an argument and you'll have an idea of what it's like to be anywhere near her.
The icing on the cake was that what started her whole bullshit last time when she was saying a whole bunch of nasty shit and making threats all stemmed from a medication she claimed my gran was not meant to be on (no one told her, it was all based on assumption). She fucked up severely. Was there an apology? Fuck no. This was a mistake so grevious that she should not be allowed near my gran in any capacity, let alone feel justified in criticising me and saying how appalling my level of care is.

Now, this particular medication (Somac) was to treat stomach ulcers (they can be bad because they bleed, keep this in mind). My mother was so forceful in having this medication stopped that she went to the chemist and made sure she was never to be issued the stomach ulcer medication ever again.

My gran is also on Warfarin, which is an extremely powerful anti-coagulant (blood thinner) to reduce the chances of a stroke. Warfarin is damn serious, you can't fuck around with that; parts of the diet must be strict and regular blood (INR) tests need to be done to make sure that it's within an acceptable range. Too high and she can begin bleeding for no reason, too low and it's ineffective. Even when it is with in the desired performing range, any bleeding must be monitored because they may not stop on their own.

Let's look at the situation that has been manufactured by this unholy being. Based on no evidence or advice from doctors, my mother ceased the Somac and disposed of any available amount of it and revoked access to it at the pharmacy level. Now ulcers can freely grow and bleed in my grans stomach. But the Warfarin that my gran is on will see to it that these ulcers may not be able to stop bleeding of their own accord. My gran has already been hospitalised for this long before she was ever on Warfarin.

Yep, my mother created a perfect circumstance where my gran could have ended up in hospital or died as a result. No apology, no remorse. But she'll keep beating the drum of how poor my level of care is.

No need to reply to this or anything, it's mostly a rant I needed to get out somewhere. I'm really frustrated and just wish she would fuck off. Her visits are becoming more frequent and with the newly added costs of seeing a psychiatrist and possibly medication, it's going to take me ages to get out of this situation. At least there's D&D tomorrow and I'll make sure to GTFO on Sunday for some pinhole photography.

Edit: Fuck, was hoping for the bottom of the last page.
 
Yeah warfarin is something you don't want to fuck around with. Your mum is playing around with things she shouldn't be and it's good that you're looking out for your gran. Kinda wish i could suggest a means of stopping her involvement but i'm not sure what options really are.
 

Dead Man

Member
Rant warning.

My mother has been here since Wednesday. Why the fuck can't she just leave? No one needs her here, she's just being a fucking menace. Here's a further sample of what she's like to be around.
  • She asked me to show her something. I did. She didn't understand. Instead of telling me that, she started an argument.
  • Went and bought coffee that my gran drinks because she ran out. Mother would rather she has decaf. Solution: start an argument.
  • I didn't do something that she never asked by an arbitrary time limit she set in her own head. Don't say anything at all, no that's too easy, start an argument instead.
  • Pretend there's a longer list with more petty reasons to start an argument and you'll have an idea of what it's like to be anywhere near her.
The icing on the cake was that what started her whole bullshit last time when she was saying a whole bunch of nasty shit and making threats all stemmed from a medication she claimed my gran was not meant to be on (no one told her, it was all based on assumption). She fucked up severely. Was there an apology? Fuck no. This was a mistake so grevious that she should not be allowed near my gran in any capacity, let alone feel justified in criticising me and saying how appalling my level of care is.

Now, this particular medication (Somac) was to treat stomach ulcers (they can be bad because they bleed, keep this in mind). My mother was so forceful in having this medication stopped that she went to the chemist and made sure she was never to be issued the stomach ulcer medication ever again.

My gran is also on Warfarin, which is an extremely powerful anti-coagulant (blood thinner) to reduce the chances of a stroke. Warfarin is damn serious, you can't fuck around with that; parts of the diet must be strict and regular blood (INR) tests need to be done to make sure that it's within an acceptable range. Too high and she can begin bleeding for no reason, too low and it's ineffective. Even when it is with in the desired performing range, any bleeding must be monitored because they may not stop on their own.

Let's look at the situation that has been manufactured by this unholy being. Based on no evidence or advice from doctors, my mother ceased the Somac and disposed of any available amount of it and revoked access to it at the pharmacy level. Now ulcers can freely grow and bleed in my grans stomach. But the Warfarin that my gran is on will see to it that these ulcers may not be able to stop bleeding of their own accord. My gran has already been hospitalised for this long before she was ever on Warfarin.

Yep, my mother created a perfect circumstance where my gran could have ended up in hospital or died as a result. No apology, no remorse. But she'll keep beating the drum of how poor my level of care is.

No need to reply to this or anything, it's mostly a rant I needed to get out somewhere. I'm really frustrated and just wish she would fuck off. Her visits are becoming more frequent and with the newly added costs of seeing a psychiatrist and possibly medication, it's going to take me ages to get out of this situation. At least there's D&D tomorrow and I'll make sure to GTFO on Sunday for some pinhole photography.

Edit: Fuck, was hoping for the bottom of the last page.
Do you go to GP appointments with your Gran or does she have a regular doctor she sees? Maybe you could speak to them about the situation with the medication? Maybe legal aid could tell you is there was some recourse possible?

Your mother should have no say in her medication if that is the shit she is doing. I don't know if there is any recourse, but that's pretty much the only thing I can think of. Sorry man.
 

EatChildren

Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
I'm only new to the Danoss family epic, but holy shit dude. You must have one hell of a willpower to get through all of this as you've done. It's admirable, because I'm pretty certain at that point I would be on no speaking/seeing/existing terms with my mother.
 

Danoss

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Yeah warfarin is something you don't want to fuck around with. Your mum is playing around with things she shouldn't be and it's good that you're looking out for your gran. Kinda wish i could suggest a means of stopping her involvement but i'm not sure what options really are.

I'd stop her from any involvement if I could. It's my gran's house and she has ultimate say of who comes here.

Do you go to GP appointments with your Gran or does she have a regular doctor she sees? Maybe you could speak to them about the situation with the medication? Maybe legal aid could tell you is there was some recourse possible?

Your mother should have no say in her medication if that is the shit she is doing. I don't know if there is any recourse, but that's pretty much the only thing I can think of. Sorry man.

I go to all my gran's appointments, GP and specialist. She doesn't like to "bother" the doctors with certain details concerning her health. If I wasn't there, they'd be under the illusion that everything is perfectly fine.

I've already fixed the medication situation, so that's under control. Her cardiologist actually changed one of her medications and it put her in the hospital on Tuesday, hence why my mother is currently here. He brought on what he was trying to prevent and her blood pressure dropped to 60/40 while in the doctors office for a routine blood test; it shocked everyone.

I would do something about my mother's involvement, but I doubt it would end well at all. I'm more concerned about what would happen to my gran. Firstly, it would upset her more than anything. Secondly, my family despises me and if it came down to it, it would be all of them against me; I would look like I've fabricated the whole thing.

I'm only new to the Danoss family epic, but holy shit dude. You must have one hell of a willpower to get through all of this as you've done. It's admirable, because I'm pretty certain at that point I would be on no speaking/seeing/existing terms with my mother.

Yeah. I only keep the peace because it would upset my gran otherwise. She gave me a home when my mother kicked me out of home 16 years ago. It's only fair. I'd have nothing to do with my mother if this weren't the case.

Thanks for the kind words all of you.
 
Iron man 3 was great but watch till the very end

Hoyts staff didn't let me. They started the movie 30 minutes late, so as soon as the movie finished, they turned on the lights. I was sitting and waiting as I knew there would be a bonus scene after the credits, but they didn't allow anyone to stay, saying that they were running late and had to clean-up for the next show. :(
 

Lafiel

と呼ぶがよい
This really hits home with me too. Brain multitasking, practising sentences. It's nice to know I'm not the only one. I don't know though. I get distracted so easily and am always thinking about a billion things at once, but I kind of like getting lost in my thoughts. If I could turn it off on certain days it would be awesome, but I wouldn't want my daydreaming to disappear forever.
That sounds fairly normal for most people afaik. I mean I can relate to that experience, but it's never negatively affected me in any significant ways, I mean on the subject of ADHD - there's a good reason why we try to get special support for primary school students with ADHD, it tends to be "more' than just being simply being a distracted/unfocused or disruptive kid in a class-room.

Plus if you actually have ADHD.. you are literally the quietest person with it I've known.:p
 
That sounds fairly normal for most people afaik. I mean I can relate to that experience, but it's never negatively affected me in any significant ways, I mean on the subject of ADHD - there's a good reason why we try to get special support for primary school students with ADHD, it tends to be "more' than just being simply being a distracted/unfocused or disruptive kid in a class-room.

Plus if you actually have ADHD.. you are literally the quietest person with it I've known.:p
I doubt I've got it. I've probably got something though, might take a visit to the gp when uni's over.
 

Danoss

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My mother has now announced she will be here every weekend. Three days a week. Fucking hell, there is no way I can endure that shit.
 
Hoyts staff didn't let me. They started the movie 30 minutes late, so as soon as the movie finished, they turned on the lights. I was sitting and waiting as I knew there would be a bonus scene after the credits, but they didn't allow anyone to stay, saying that they were running late and had to clean-up for the next show. :(

That's a joke, surely.
 

Dead Man

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http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/books/2013/04/lifes-too-short-to-read-tedious-books/

‘My friend and I were working out how many more books we’ll read before we die,’ a customer said to me in the bookshop, the other day. ‘We read a book every couple of weeks, so we figured around 500.’

I rapidly did the maths. Twenty years. It seemed a little pessimistic for someone who can’t have been much older than fifty.

Those of you who feel inspired to do your own calculations might feel depressed by how few books you’ve got left, or overwhelmed by how many you’ve yet to read. At 29 years old, I’m not so far from the beginning of my reading life and it feels quite uncanny to force an endpoint on something that I think of as continuing far into the future. It feels, frankly, sad to think of all those books suddenly coming to an end. It conjures an image of a bookcase, gloriously full until about two-thirds of the way down, where the rows of spines abruptly give way to yawning emptiness, never to be filled.

Now I'm depressed.

I go to all my gran's appointments, GP and specialist. She doesn't like to "bother" the doctors with certain details concerning her health. If I wasn't there, they'd be under the illusion that everything is perfectly fine.

I've already fixed the medication situation, so that's under control. Her cardiologist actually changed one of her medications and it put her in the hospital on Tuesday, hence why my mother is currently here. He brought on what he was trying to prevent and her blood pressure dropped to 60/40 while in the doctors office for a routine blood test; it shocked everyone.

I would do something about my mother's involvement, but I doubt it would end well at all. I'm more concerned about what would happen to my gran. Firstly, it would upset her more than anything. Secondly, my family despises me and if it came down to it, it would be all of them against me; I would look like I've fabricated the whole thing.
Yeah, fair call if it becomes a he said she said type of deal.
Hoyts staff didn't let me. They started the movie 30 minutes late, so as soon as the movie finished, they turned on the lights. I was sitting and waiting as I knew there would be a bonus scene after the credits, but they didn't allow anyone to stay, saying that they were running late and had to clean-up for the next show. :(
What? No they fucking didn't, did they?
My mother has now announced she will be here every weekend. Three days a week. Fucking hell, there is no way I can endure that shit.
I know you love your Gran, but maybe it is time to find alternative accommodation for a month or so so they can see what it's like?
 
Hoyts staff didn't let me. They started the movie 30 minutes late, so as soon as the movie finished, they turned on the lights. I was sitting and waiting as I knew there would be a bonus scene after the credits, but they didn't allow anyone to stay, saying that they were running late and had to clean-up for the next show. :(

Youtube it. You didn't miss anything.
 

Danoss

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I know you love your Gran, but maybe it is time to find alternative accommodation for a month or so so they can see what it's like?

I would, but I can't afford it. As soon as I go elsewhere, Carer Payment is forfeit. Once that occurs, then I really can't afford it.

That psychiatrist appointment I just booked is $416 before medicare rebate alone. Just when things are looking up...
 

Lafiel

と呼ぶがよい
That's a joke, surely.

No, why would it be a joke? Hoyts always starts movies 15 minutes late, but yesterday it was half an hour late. I remember few years ago they had a similar issue while watching terminator 4, they had to give free popcorn and a free ticket to everyone because everyone started complaining, and it was a late night show.

I did check it on YT, nothing missed.
 

user_nat

THE WORDS! They'll drift away without the _!
So I'll have the option to vote (or not vote) for Palmer in this election. Cool.

Will probably win the seat though.
 
No, why would it be a joke? Hoyts always starts movies 15 minutes late, but yesterday it was half an hour late. I remember few years ago they had a similar issue while watching terminator 4, they had to give free popcorn and a free ticket to everyone because everyone started complaining, and it was a late night show.

I did check it on YT, nothing missed.

I would have complained. Especially as there was more of the movie at the end of the credits.
 

jambo

Member
Hoyts staff didn't let me. They started the movie 30 minutes late, so as soon as the movie finished, they turned on the lights. I was sitting and waiting as I knew there would be a bonus scene after the credits, but they didn't allow anyone to stay, saying that they were running late and had to clean-up for the next show. :(

I recorded the last little bit after the credits, might be able to upload it somewhere...
 
Why the hell haven't I head of Sessler until he went to Rev3? His videos have been fantastic most of the time.

Also fuck yes to live action trailers. Also fuck yes to Aussie game development!

GRAW + XCOM + 1950's = PURE AWESOME

Iron man 3 was great but watch till the very end
Fuck yes it was.

Hoyts staff didn't let me. They started the movie 30 minutes late, so as soon as the movie finished, they turned on the lights. I was sitting and waiting as I knew there would be a bonus scene after the credits, but they didn't allow anyone to stay, saying that they were running late and had to clean-up for the next show. :(
Straight to Consumer Affairs I would be if they didn't refund my ticket.

I expect to see a movie at 6pm if the ticket says 6pm. If they don't allow me to watch the entire movie I am entitled to a refund as my reasonable expectation was not met.

Thanks fuck I have never had to go to Hoyts. Readings in Geelong is awesomesauce, hit them up sometime!

My mother has now announced she will be here every weekend. Three days a week. Fucking hell, there is no way I can endure that shit.
Hopefully she only sticks with it once or twice. Hopefully other shit comes up that draws her attention away from you and your grandma.

It's a shit situation and hopefully things change sooner rather than later. Just keep remembering that you are young and have a hell of a long life ahead of you, at one point in your life this whole period will seem like a strange dream, almost as if it happened to someone else.

That psychiatrist appointment I just booked is $416 before medicare rebate alone. Just when things are looking up...
Fuck, you don't have a health care card? I remember the first few visits being free here in VIC but it could even depend on the kind of psych you need I guess. The first 2-3 appointments for a patients history really should be free, just to let people see if it is the kind of thing they can stick with. Mental health care here (well, fucking everywhere I guess) has a long way to go. We learn more and more about the mind everyday and our health system needs to catch up to that.
 

Danoss

Member
Hopefully she only sticks with it once or twice. Hopefully other shit comes up that draws her attention away from you and your grandma.

It's a shit situation and hopefully things change sooner rather than later. Just keep remembering that you are young and have a hell of a long life ahead of you, at one point in your life this whole period will seem like a strange dream, almost as if it happened to someone else.

This woman has no life. She's found a new project and she won't be going anywhere. I can hope, but I don't expect anything to change for the better.

At 31 it feels like I've let life pass me by. I've helped someone else but greatly hindered myself in the same process. I was hoping to be out of here by years end and start out on my own. I think I have two choices at present, go insane while waiting to get there or sell most of what I own to be able to accomplish that as soon as possible.

I know what I'm saying must be exasperating to some, I'm just venting so I don't explode because I'm struggling to keep my thoughts straight. My apologies.

Fuck, you don't have a health care card? I remember the first few visits being free here in VIC but it could even depend on the kind of psych you need I guess. The first 2-3 appointments for a patients history really should be free, just to let people see if it is the kind of thing they can stick with. Mental health care here (well, fucking everywhere I guess) has a long way to go. We learn more and more about the mind everyday and our health system needs to catch up to that.

I was told that they'll work out my circumstances when I see them and the rebate will be worked out based on that. My friend goes there and says she gets plenty back, it sounded reasonable though I don't recall specifically. I have a blue pension card, so I'm sure my rebate will be the highest possible (apparently it becomes even greater once I hit a certain threshold). Once my bank account is registered with Medicare, the rebate happens instantly. Unfortunately the full amount must be handed over first before it works. I'll have to be able to schedule visits on pay day or it won't be possible.

This particular visit may be more expensive because it's the first. I recall when seeing a new psychiatrist previously the first visit went for a very long time as they got the full history. My mother sat in on every single one of the subsequent visits too, it turned into her and the doctor taking turns in tearing into me. I was forbidden from telling the doctor what my mother was really like under the threat of even heavier beatings than I was already receiving. At least this won't be anything like that. I'm sure no one needed to know that, just memories floating back in.
 

Shaneus

Member
You should get a fair bit of that back on Medicare, Danoss. Not that it helps the initial outlay, but the first visit to my GP and shrink I think I only had to pay around $50 each time out of pocket.
 

Danoss

Member
You should get a fair bit of that back on Medicare, Danoss. Not that it helps the initial outlay, but the first visit to my GP and shrink I think I only had to pay around $50 each time out of pocket.

Yeah, I think that's the case. That sounds awfully similar to what my friend tells me. I think she had to pay more to start off with, but once that was over it's pretty much just the $50 difference (but still has to outlay like $150 or $180, something like that).
 

Dead Man

Member
I would, but I can't afford it. As soon as I go elsewhere, Carer Payment is forfeit. Once that occurs, then I really can't afford it.

That psychiatrist appointment I just booked is $416 before medicare rebate alone. Just when things are looking up...

Ouch. Surely you are allowed to go on a two week holiday without losing your carer payment though?
 

Shaneus

Member
Yeah, give or take. I always forgot to take them in, so I got a bunch of rebates back each visit to Medicare = can't remember what I got back for any of them :/
 

Danoss

Member
Ouch. Surely you are allowed to go on a two week holiday without losing your carer payment though?

I am, but my gran has to go into respite. That will never happen. I tried to get her assessed a while ago just in case anything should happen to me or her, then she'd be okay. The response I got from the family was unpleasant to say the least. My mother has made the same threats recently for far less.

The stories I could tell you of what she's capable of...
 

Dead Man

Member
I am, but my gran has to go into respite. That will never happen. I tried to get her assessed a while ago just in case anything should happen to me or her, then she'd be okay. The response I got from the family was unpleasant to say the least. My mother has made the same threats recently for far less.

The stories I could tell you of what she's capable of...

Jesus. All the best man.
 
Just wanted to say Danoss that, regardless of whatever silly squabbles we've had here in the past, I really respect what you're doing for your nan and hearing about the trouble your family are causing you through their malicious ignorance is depressing (not in a "stop posting that you shithead" sense, but a "really sorry you have to deal with all that shit, and thanks for sharing" one :) ).
 
There's only hoyts and village in Melbourne. I prefer hoyts for the extreme screen. Village usually starts shows on time, but hoyts is always at least 15 mins late. I have never been to a movie at hoyts that started dot on the show time.
 

Clipper

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http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/...wells-family-pet/story-e6freoof-1226630308065

>This dog is dangerous
>Give us money and you can have it back

Fucking disgraceful.

Reading the quotes from the article, I think she was actually given a fine for her dangerous dog. If she paid that fine by a certain time, she could get the dog back. That's not totally clear from the article, but it makes the most sense and would fit with the quotes from the councilman. So that would be:

>This dog is dangerous
>You need to pay money as you've been irresponsible in your care for this dog
>Pay by a certain date and you can have it back

Which doesn't sound nearly as disgraceful. If it was a fine, she certainly doesn't deserve that money back either.

Of course, it's disgraceful that the receptionists told her that it would be OK to delay some of the payment until the next day when it turns out it wasn't OK. The writing of the article is also incredibly vague and bereft of facts, which is kind of disgraceful too.
 

evlcookie

but ever so delicious
Fuck me dead this phone is loud. These stereo speakers. Give you a fucking heart attack everytime you get a message or the phone rings.

I might be dead by next week.
 

Dead Man

Member
Reading the quotes from the article, I think she was actually given a fine for her dangerous dog. If she paid that fine by a certain time, she could get the dog back. That's not totally clear from the article, but it makes the most sense and would fit with the quotes from the councilman. So that would be:

>This dog is dangerous
>You need to pay money as you've been irresponsible in your care for this dog
>Pay by a certain date and you can have it back

Which doesn't sound nearly as disgraceful. If it was a fine, she certainly doesn't deserve that money back either.

Of course, it's disgraceful that the receptionists told her that it would be OK to delay some of the payment until the next day when it turns out it wasn't OK. The writing of the article is also incredibly vague and bereft of facts, which is kind of disgraceful too.

Destroying the dog over owed money is fucked in the head. If it was dangerous, destroy it, if it wasn't, don't.
 

senahorse

Member
Destroying the dog over owed money is fucked in the head. If it was dangerous, destroy it, if it wasn't, don't.

It sounds like that was the course of action they were taking, she disputed it, they gave her a deadline to get pound fees and other associated costs sorted out and she didn't meet that agreement. It sucks but they can't keep these animals alive indefinitely, the RSPCA have to put down unwanted pets all the time, the difference in this case was that it was classified as a dangerous animal.
 

Dead Man

Member
It sounds like that was the course of action they were taking, she disputed it, they gave her a deadline to get pound fees and other associated costs sorted out and she didn't meet that agreement. It sucks but they can't keep these animals alive indefinitely, the RSPCA have to put down unwanted pets all the time, the difference in this case was that it was classified as a dangerous animal.

If it was dangerous enough to be destroyed, then that should be the thing that is done. If it wasn't, then it shouldn't. Council fucked up. You give the dog back and use normal debt collection methods if the money has not been paid, you don't hold it for ransom.
 

senahorse

Member
If it was dangerous enough to be destroyed, then that should be the thing that is done. If it wasn't, then it shouldn't. Council fucked up. You give the dog back and use normal debt collection methods if the money has not been paid, you don't hold it for ransom.

I get the feeling there is more to this already ambiguous story, reading it again, there is certainly a lot of room for interpretation.
 

Dead Man

Member
I get the feeling there is more to this already ambiguous story, reading it again, there is certainly a lot of room for interpretation.

Maybe. On the story presented so far, to me, council fucked up. You either destroy a dangerous dog or if it is not dangerous you give it back and bill the owners like any other thing. Not this halfway shit.
 
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