A guy took one of the mics and told the obnoxious crowd to go stand in front of a bus. Poor form on both him and the crowd, really.
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Awesome Games Done Quick 2017 | January 8th - January 15th | Speedrunning for Charity
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I'm in the same boat. Have it on in the background with the audio off and keep an eye on the counter.
blue_phazon
Member
From what I understand, the WWHD runner misgendered another runner, even though he knew what gender they are. I dunno who it was, and I may be wrong about this
presumably they'll just load a save for that fight since it's a bonus
Fuckery aside, that was fun to watch nonetheless. Kinda awkward at the end though with the crowd stifling stuff. I get there's "serious time" but it felt like this was an overreaction due to beanie guy.
I'll have to miss undertale though since I've yet to play it myself, but hopefully they hit that 2m mark.
I'll have to miss undertale though since I've yet to play it myself, but hopefully they hit that 2m mark.
He called it like a minute or two early at most. I think Zoast did the Metroid skip like soon after the call and then Behemoth followed. While those two finished the fight, the other two were getting really close to the skips. It's normal for them to ask for the crowd to STFU nicely until everyone's done but the problem here was that they didn't specifically ask for that and just told them straight up to STFU entirely instead. And that came out rather harshly.
Everyone fucked up: The audience with their shit, couch with the uncalled crap, and the main commentators for not controlling the crowd. The announcer shouldn't have to step in and when he did he did it badly.
I think that was a special case since he was the last one standing and the EVERYONE was hoping for success. Nobody else needs to concentrate and there's no close run.
In contrast, here is the ending of last years run.
https://youtu.be/r8kEkn-NgIQ?t=1h12s
https://youtu.be/r8kEkn-NgIQ?t=1h12s
The whole problem people have is the delivery of the request for silence, not the silence itself.
Surely you would agree there is a line where what a runner wants might run contrary to what the event stands for?
No doubt requesting silence for a particular moment is fine, but this was a buzzkill throughout.
are you going to actually play undertale? if you've got an interest in those type of games, i would absolutely not watch the run
Throughout the event - sure. But I don't think they're struggling to find people to compete in the signature event.
"Hey guys, I know it's distracting, but the donation momentum during this event is the whole reason we do these things. The Super Metroid bid war raised $793k last time, just do your best to deal with it for the charity. We don't want to kill the audience's momentum at the point where donations are coming in at the fastest rate."
toddhunter
Member
The donations are more important than the runners. For better or (mostly) worse, the crowd and atmosphere is part of that.
I don''t think anyone disagrees with you that the runners train hard and put in a lot of effort and they do a lot of really hard moves. The issue though is that this is not a "win something" race. This is for charity. They don't get anything for coming first or dying in their race and ending the run, in fact when racers cut their race short the crowd is into it. It's like when I play basketball with my niece, it's for fun, not me knocking her down and scoring and going "GET RECKT" when I score against her, shes 10.
Permanently A
Junior Member
FGC is poverty though
decoyplatypus
Member
It's fine to ask for silence in the room, particularly if the runners request it. It's also fine to ask people to knock off an annoying chant if the viewers are requesting it. But you can do it in a quick, professional way that doesn't make everyone feel awkward about the whole thing.
I got the game a couple of weeks ago. Haven't had time to play yet.
Sword Of Doom
Member
Wow that's a lot of money they've raised 
People tune in to watch the best players in the world play to begin with.
I'm not saying what they did this time was the right thing -- clearly there was a much better way to handle this -- but I am definitely taking issue with people saying "fuck the runners."
Uh, I watch this event to see good speedruns, not to track or listen to donations.
I'm not watching this to see the crowd try to get themselves over.
Danny Dudekisser
I paid good money for this Dynex!
Vulcano's assistant
Banned
I don't even know how fun the run can be without having played the game. They are surely going to say spoilers in the couch and whatnot, but the screen may as well be a bunch of nonsense. You may be safe if you mute it and don't look at it too much.
If you can resist yourself man I would play through it and watch this run later. I get it if the 2million hype is too strong tho
Professor Beef
Banned
He didn't. The trick is named after Cosmo (who recently transitioned and is now known as Narcissa), and he attributed the trick to "Cosmo/Narcissa" for the people who probably didn't know that about Narcissa. He didn't dead-name anyone, and IMO it seems like people just misheard him.
Honestly you see this with fighting game tournaments all the time. The sentiment is usually "screw the people playing in the actual tournament, spectators should be catered to."
Is anyone actually saying "fuck the runners"? Seems more like people are taking issue with the commentators.
I feel like the couch event kind of undermined the later attempted silence announcement, sadly. It just snowballed it from there, especially considering how rowdy the crowd was to begin with.
For what it's worth, there was only one runner there too. So the audience didn't have to keep track of everything. Contrast to this run where there were four runners spread out with their times.
For what it's worth, there was only one runner there too. So the audience didn't have to keep track of everything. Contrast to this run where there were four runners spread out with their times.
Diablohead
Member
A hall of hundreds of speedrunners who have seen super metroid every year now yeah I can expect them to be a little more noisy but the request from the guy on the couch was flat out rude and poorly done, I don't agree with both sides but it's a charity event, not a league final.
I quoted one such person already above.
Dusk Golem
A 21st Century Rockefeller
Wow that prize pool.
Aaronrules380
Member
1.9 million broken. Can 2 mill be passed?
toddhunter
Member
People can watch these guys 24x7 and mostly don't. They watch because it is an event and for a charity and nobody should expect their absolute best times. It isn't what it is about.
This doesn't mean "fuck the runners". But metroid is the big thing at the event and these guys can play the whole thing with their eyes closed, especially the last few sections. If they want it to remain the "big thing" then yes they should have handled that a lot better.
Which isn't to say "fuck the crowd" isn't completely correct. But all that Nintendo meme type strangeness unfortunately also brings in the money from people who can physically sit through a mario sunshine run.
linko9
Member
Here's my take:
The Wah's were insanely distracting and obnoxious and should have been stopped by the organizers with a polite announcement: "Lets keep the focus on the runners, give them your support but don't be distracting!"
Cheering should always be encouraged, and has never been a problem in previous SM runs, obviously quiet time during tough tricks is good, but not allowing applause after successfully getting a trick is a terrible idea.
These guys are indeed the best in the world, and can easily run these games with cheering and applause (and 3/4 have run this game at a GDQ before); in fact I'm sure they appreciate it. I've watched Zoast and Behemoth a ton, and I know they're very chill dudes.
blue_phazon
Member
Ah I see. Yeah just read the link above
Ricerocket
Member
They'll break 2m easily during Undertales. So excited for this game to end the marathon.
Permanently A
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next year's donation incentive:
$15,000 for the ability for the crowd to WAAAAAAAH
alternatively, anyone doing WAAAAAH is kicked out, but there's a button that says WAAAAAAH over the speakers when pressed and it costs $5 to press each time
$15,000 for the ability for the crowd to WAAAAAAAH
alternatively, anyone doing WAAAAAH is kicked out, but there's a button that says WAAAAAAH over the speakers when pressed and it costs $5 to press each time
I never said "fuck the runners." I do think that their request in this particular instance (and especially how it was applied) conflicted with the spirit of the event.
This is not a real competition, with people's livelihoods at stake - it is an event that is about the community feeling good and doing good work through donations. The "silence" was counterproductive towards that goal.
