The Broken Ska Record said:
The Broken Ska Record said:
Oh yea. I agree. It felt a little anti-climactic finally going after the main villain so easily. And I wouldn't say it makes the whole thing any worse because of all of the plot holes, but they are fun to point out.SpeedingUptoStop said:
neorej said:
BeautifulMemory said:
neorej said:
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Gambit said:
neorej said:
The game gives you access to the entire city and all of the content far too quickly, IMO. It would have been much more effective to have the side missions, activities, radio chatter, balloons, cameras, etc. introduced in a more controlled, gradual fashion. I'm sure Rocksteady was going for a "emerging from the caves for the first time in Oblivion" moment, but the problem is that you're immediately assaulted with so many possibilities at once with no direction or explanation. Look at all those question marks - should I start those? Constant radio chatter - am I supposed to scan those, as I was just taught that mechanic? The city looks huge - do I need to explore to discover content, or will the game dole it out as I progress on the critical path?Gambit said:
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eshwaaz said:
I haven't played the game yet (pre-ordered on Steam), but even if it were the greatest game ever made I'd agree with this sentiment based on the simple fact this is an open world game and the original is a semi Metroid-type game. Similar with Demon's Souls and Dark Souls, while I may prefer one approach over the other the fact it's different on that fundamental level means both are worth playing.eshwaaz said:
I can't seem to get the timing down on those, but I just got the counter so I'll be trying tonight.EekTheKat said:
I agree. The first thing I did when I got control of Batman was fly off in the opposite direction of the Courthouse to explore, thinking I'd be fine because I played Arkham Asylum so much, but I had to get back on the main path pretty quickly because there's so tutorial stuff early on that you really need to know. Perhaps that's my fault, because the game makes it pretty clear that you should go and rescue Catwoman post haste, but pretty much all of the major plot points end with you on an urgent quest to get to the next one and if you don't take a break at some point you'd never see any of the side stuff.eshwaaz said:
matrix-cat said:
I feel like maybe they raised the stakes too high too quickly. Pretty much from the point you first leave the Steel Mill you've got an invisible countdown running and when that happens it hardly feels right for Batman to be wasting his time flying through rings and scanning billboards. Arkham Asylum definitely had a smoother ramp up to the 'shit just got real' moment, whereas in Arkham City shit gets real early on and proceeds to get much realer, at the expense of the leisurely pace at which you might like to tackle the side missions. Of course you can always do that stuff after finishing the main story when Batman says "There's still work to be done", but that just doesn't feel right.RoninChaos said:
That's really cool. I dodge a lot in combat, to the point where I pretty much never accept a Blade Counter or try and Aerial Attack a shield guy because I'm just leaping around punching regular goons to build up to another special attack, so I'll have to try that more often.EekTheKat said:
Catwoman.voltron said:
This guy wrote a great one for Arkham Asylum, and the basics still apply for Arkham City. You just have to learn which moves you're invincible during. A Ground Takedown is very risky during a fight because it takes a long time and you can be hit out of it, but nothing can hit you during an Instant Takedown except one of the miniboss enemies or a thrown item (or a gun). Combat in these games is all about building up a combo and keeping it going, because the best moves are locked away at certain multiplier levels. Your Instant Takedown (press Triangle and Circle together) is only available at multiples of five, so a lot of the time you'll find yourself doing one Instant Takedown and then just hitting guys with your basic attack until you build up another five hits to unlock the Instant Takedown again.mr. puppy said:is there a good guide or tutorial or anything for doing all of the fist fighting? i'm terrible at it, and basically just run around pushing triangle. I don't do any takedowns because then I will miss a counter, and instead get hit out of whatever takedown i'm doing
matrix-cat said:
Ground pound takedowns should only be done when the enemies are very far away. You should stick with special takedowns which are never interrupted. Save the ground pound for the final guy instead.mr. puppy said:is there a good guide or tutorial or anything for doing all of the fist fighting? i'm terrible at it, and basically just run around pushing triangle. I don't do any takedowns because then I will miss a counter, and instead get hit out of whatever takedown i'm doing
mr. puppy said:is there a good guide or tutorial or anything for doing all of the fist fighting? i'm terrible at it, and basically just run around pushing triangle. I don't do any takedowns because then I will miss a counter, and instead get hit out of whatever takedown i'm doing
I have my good days and my bad ones, and I feel like I spend a lot of time countering moves that aren't there or being clobbered when I'm not looking. I'm still getting used to Double Counters after spending so much time fighting in Arkham Asylum. Even when I'm at my most frustrated I know that it's all my fault, but that only makes me more frustratedBankaiZaraki said:
PM sent.augmental said:
matrix-cat said:I have my good days and my bad ones, and I feel like I spend a lot of time countering moves that aren't there or being clobbered when I'm not looking. I'm still getting used to Double Counters after spending so much time fighting in Arkham Asylum. Even when I'm at my most frustrated I know that it's all my fault, but that only makes me more frustrated
The secret to everything is just dodging, though. Dodge dodge dodge. You can literally do it forever without breaking your combo, it's just a matter of having the patience. I find that enemies are a lot more aggressive in Arkham City, they'll get up from being knocked down faster and they'll chase you if you try and roll away for some distance, and fighting with so many guys so close to you is a recipe for disaster so dodging to a less dense part of the fight is essential. Being able to dodge infinitely means you only have to fight where you want to fight; they'll chase you but you just have to dodge some more.
I'm aaaaaalmost positive I ran once during a combo, which was something that would automatically break it in AA. I try and start all my combos with a slide or a running punch.vixlar said:
I find that whenever I get hit its generally my fault. Not because of skill but because I find myself fumbling about the controller sometimes because it can get overwhelming. I often miss counters because I hit circle instead of triangle. Or while Im trying to counter, I'll be holding down L1 for some reason so I'll do a bat claw instead.voltron said:
