Sibersk Esto
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Oh that's an old one. There was a cracked article about it awhile back.
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Oh that's an old one. There was a cracked article about it awhile back.
bob_arctor
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He's a super powerful god and people just can't relate to that. Unlike Thor, for example.
I feel like such a sheep after reading about it lol. I wonder what kind of other weird marketing ploys the movie industry uses. Something to read today it seems.
Thor has been nerfed to hell tho. At the beginning many people complained about it but now i think we all can see why they did it.
generic_username
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What is so relatable about Thor?
Sibersk Esto
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Thor is a god, who started out as a boisterous asshole, who then became a de-powered and sexy fish out of water.
Very easy to see how he endears to people more.
Beta Stage
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I believe he is being sarcastic. Because, you know, Thor is literally a super powerful god.
Future Foundation
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So the trailer's gotten an "official" upload - to the IMAX YouTube account.
Inferno313
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bob_arctor
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Hey, I love both so you're preaching to the choir, but I'm not buying that the Norse god speaking in Shakespeare is more relatable.
Sibersk Esto
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It's not about the character being relatable, it's about the story-arc being relatable.
People see Thor, and how he goes from point A to point B, and they can identify with the character. They can see the character as presented, and understand why he acts that way.
With Superman, the most character work people get is "he's a good person." That's it. Add in the fact that Thor is far more visually interesting from a powers and lore perspective than Superman and it's a wash.
Discotheque
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Superman was very relatable in the first film during the farm scenes and even in man of Steel during the flashbacks when he was a kid
Not the characters fault that goyer gave us such a dead in the water script
Thor is terrible in the films btw. By far the worst of the avengers.
Really cool comics tho, but in film....basura. what a bad comparison
Superman has a lot of potential too, he could be the captain America of these films if they played it right...which they haven't. Snyder is concerned with him flexing and mean mugging the whole movie instead smh
Not the characters fault that goyer gave us such a dead in the water script
Thor is terrible in the films btw. By far the worst of the avengers.
Really cool comics tho, but in film....basura. what a bad comparison
Superman has a lot of potential too, he could be the captain America of these films if they played it right...which they haven't. Snyder is concerned with him flexing and mean mugging the whole movie instead smh
He's not, but Thor was essentially played for lulz. the first film is essentially a fish out of water story, hell it's basically Crocodile Dundee except the lady friend doesn't see him in his natural environment at the start. I think Crocodile Dundee has more powers than Thor in the movies though.
Thor's hardly the best example of the relatively few good things Marvel's got right with their characters he's got about as much depth as a paper cup. Evans gives Captain America a bit more depth than he has on paper, RDJ pretty much the same (I mean they've touched on some Stark's personal issues but they've never really committed to it), honestly I think only Banner/Hulk has had the best of it (ignoring Age of Ultron's bolted on romance)
generic_username
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Superman being compared to C tier heroes like Thor. Sigh...
Unless people are being sarcastic about Thor's character depth.
My sarcasm meter is pretty broken.
Unless people are being sarcastic about Thor's character depth.
My sarcasm meter is pretty broken.
NealMcCauley
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Looks like slightly better quality too. Colors seem more vivid and not as washed out to my eyes.
Sibersk Esto
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Thor's fine in the first film. Yeah he's propped up by Branagh's great vision of Asgard and Hemsworth's booming voice but he's an endearing fish out of water. Better than Man of Steel's janky attempt at aping Batman Begins story structure while not getting what made it work.
Discotheque
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Hemsworth is corny and when he's up with that avengers cast its so apparent that he's the weakest performer of the bunch
Like I would literally rank him last place in that whole crew and it shows big time. God forbid he interacts with rdj and ruffalo. It really shows there especially
Gonna be interesting to see how Thor 3 pans out with hulk along for the ride
Like I would literally rank him last place in that whole crew and it shows big time. God forbid he interacts with rdj and ruffalo. It really shows there especially
Gonna be interesting to see how Thor 3 pans out with hulk along for the ride
Kenzodielocke
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I like man of steel supes. It's his first day, give him a break. he was like a kid when he flew the first time.
I relate more to Cavill than to Hemsworth. Also, why the talk about an op supes? I found him pretty weak for superman standards in man of steel.
I relate more to Cavill than to Hemsworth. Also, why the talk about an op supes? I found him pretty weak for superman standards in man of steel.
keltickennedy
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I dunno if this has been pointed out before but is that the Nolan Tumbler Batmobile hanging out in the Batcave?
I think that's the new car, it just has a cover over it.
Too small. I think it's just a slight nod to the Nolan films and a signal that they are leaving them behind.
For reference:
I think that's just the new one with a tarp on it:
Superman does the 2-point landing
What the....
oohhh, you mean the tv show
bob_arctor
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Heh Benoist is friggin' PERFECT.
BadAss2961
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Ugh, Singer. Supes landed like he just shit himself.Superman does the 2-point landing
NipplesAndToes23
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If that's slow then I'm afraid to see how he was moving at like 25.
generic_username
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I do not like 'grimdark'
I wish Batman and Superman fought among daffodils and rainbows.
I wish Batman and Superman fought among daffodils and rainbows.
ShemhazaiX
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Dunno about that. I thought he was alright for a while in Arrow where he brought a more animated persona to the cast, but he's my least favourite member of Legends of Tomorrow. By far the weakest actor. Even Wentworth Miller and Dominic Purcell are more believable in their acting, and they're hammy as fuck.
lol
A lot of director's can't seem to make it look good, Snyder is consistently great with it though.
Clever.
Nah, it's just a rock. I brightened it up in PhotoshopI dunno if this has been pointed out before but is that the Nolan Tumbler Batmobile hanging out in the Batcave?
Hm? People don't like Thor because he was nerfed. In fact, it would have helped him if he was stronger. Aside from the 2 Avenger Films, his fighting has not been impressive at all.
The only reason people "like" Thor is because of this:
He actually had a (bad) character arc. Superman in Man of Steel didn't. If he did, I wouldn't be surprised if 90% of people liked Superman than Thor. (Movie) Thor is completely one note, but because of some small development, people enjoy him much more than Superman. Not because of power.
Power, weak or strong, should NEVER affect whether a character is interesting or not. Man of Steel Superman could have lifted the whole Earth and people should still relate to him.
GravityInsanity
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Here's the official trailer with better quality and more color.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DlJFgHWZAfQ&feature=youtu.be
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DlJFgHWZAfQ&feature=youtu.be
Oppo
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sorry if this has already been brought up...
but, does anyone else think that it's a bit.. interesting, that Batman believes in the Cheney Doctrine? otherwise known as the One Per Cent Doctrine, as coined by Suskind?
http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/story?id=2120605
This is what Batman says about Superman in the trailer:
This is a really interesting choice, and not one I would have expected, but this is no coincidence. Also, the rationale is quite flawed (read the linked piece, it's short but gets to the point). basically Batfleck is a hardcore neocon, if this is how he thinks.
but, does anyone else think that it's a bit.. interesting, that Batman believes in the Cheney Doctrine? otherwise known as the One Per Cent Doctrine, as coined by Suskind?
http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/story?id=2120605
This is what Batman says about Superman in the trailer:
Batfleck said:
This is a really interesting choice, and not one I would have expected, but this is no coincidence. Also, the rationale is quite flawed (read the linked piece, it's short but gets to the point). basically Batfleck is a hardcore neocon, if this is how he thinks.
I think the BvS EMPIRE article highlights the possible political connotations of the movie. Black Zero (the Man of Steel Metropolis partial destruction) event having the obvious 9/11 links.
The One and Done
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Lmao
Kenzodielocke
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NeoGAF is saying otherwise would fit better I think.
Bobby Roberts
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That's pretty fuckin' good.
George Oscar Bluth II
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Doesn't help that Thor has been so boring since the first movie. He basically had all character development done then and there.
Also the Avengers cast is pretty damn good so him ranking last ain't really that bad...
Wait, shit. Aaron Taylor-Johnson was temporarily a part of that cast and he's a charisma black hole. Damn, Disco, Hemsworth in last place is cold.
Discotheque
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i forgot about those twins. mainly talking the whole avengers 1 crew (which does have some pretty good actors in there no doubt)
ruffalo >= sam jackson > rdj > renner = johannson >>>>>>> hemsworth. but yeah lmao that kick ass kid is prolly worse than hemsworth. i liked him in black hat and rush at least.
You're right. I edited.
Kenzodielocke
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So, this girl Bruce saves. Random or someone important ?
George Oscar Bluth II
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Ah yeah. I agree with you then.
I'd probably put Johansson ahead of Renner and place Evans in equal standing with him. I need to watch more Renner films to judge fairly though.
Hemsworth is pretty good in Rush (haven't seen Blackhat) so I think he just doesn't have anything to really do in Marvel movies anymore except swing a hammer, yell, laugh and be a random plot device. I think weak characterisation has a pretty big impact.
At least is there no doubt about Superman actually having WMD abilities
Discotheque
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oh damn how did i forget evans. knew somebody was missing, yeah i'd put evans just below renner.
if you want to watch renner when he's actually "on" check out the two-parter louie episode into the woods. he's fantastic in that, really funny too.
and the town and american hustle (boring movie tho)
if you want to watch renner when he's actually "on" check out the two-parter louie episode into the woods. he's fantastic in that, really funny too.
and the town and american hustle (boring movie tho)
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