Batman v Superman - New Clip

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BadAss2961 said:
Superman - Meet me somewhere, motherfucker.

Batman - NO NO YOU MEET ME SOMEWHERE MUTHA FUCKA!

Superman - Gimme a fuckin' address, ho.

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Lmao
 
Hell. Yes. Super hyped after that. Love the assholish arrogance in Superman trying to police Batman around. Batman voice and outfit is looking fantastic. I wish they would show off some of the action in some of these clips since that's probably where the movie will shine most, but I guess they are saving it. Also it may be a small thing but I really hope at least once they refer to eachother as Bruce and Clark in costume, there's something cute about it when they do.
 
I am more of a DC guy than marvel but this movie is starting to feel like a disaster. That clip was unbearable.

Thank god we got the Nolan films at least.
 
The One and Done™;192158654 said:
Absolutely love how Superman schooled Batman.

What I like is that this is something Supes would actually do. He looks at Batman as a vigilante that instills fear rather than inspire hope. He would make a play to get him off the street. That scene was basically Supes saying, "This is your first and only warning."

I really hope they do a good job of also showing how Superman is completely different than Batman in how he solves problems.

Great scene. Can't wait.
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I agree. Like someone said, it's as if Superman is talking to a child. Loved it.
 
Really excited to see this movie. Superman taking out the bat mobile and telling Batman to go home and be a family man. This is going to be fun to watch.
 
The end music score sounds like a hype montage is incoming.

Batman training scene?

I loved it, though Cavill delivers it straight and without too much feeling. Like he's reluctant to give out an ultimatum. Curious if it's something in the film or just flat out wooden delivery.
 
neorej said:
Yeah, back when he was face to face with Supes, instead of looking up at the sky well out of Superman's earshot.
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To be fair, I think Superman super hearing really can still pick it up.

But I feel like it was less to Superman and more like... okay now it's time to put a plan in motion for Batman.

Anyhow, I'm prone to be open to most things until they disappoint me. I think the clip is good. I think that it plays better in the commercial since there is a longer delay in Superman flying off and him saying the line.

I like Superman's delivery as well.

Probably posted already, but someone combined it with the commercial

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjXENwx46yE
 
The One and Done™;192158654 said:
Absolutely love how Superman schooled Batman.

What I like is that this is something Supes would actually do. He looks at Batman as a vigilante that instills fear rather than inspire hope. He would make a play to get him off the street. That scene was basically Supes saying, "This is your first and only warning."

I really hope they do a good job of also showing how Superman is completely different than Batman in how he solves problems.

Great scene. Can't wait.
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They're ideological opposites, motivated by different life experiences, but with the same end-goal ultimately. With Superman's attitude here, I can understand why Batman would want to take him down. Who polices Superman? He's a demi-god taking a position of doling out leniency at his discretion.

And yeah, another one for not liking Cavil's delivery here. Hopefully this was just for the trailer and the movie has the same scene with better line delivery.
 
jelly said:
Cavill is a very poor actor. He is bad in everything unfortunately.

Batman doesn't look pissed off enough, maybe not rising to it, weird looking though.
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The scene actually goes like this:

--Bla bla bla---

"Tell me, do you bleed?"

"..."

"You will!......... ..... ........-ow ow ow ow hot hot hot my car's on fire ow ow ow my feet!!"
 
Betty said:
Sounding amazing when we thought he was saying it inside his armour on the rooftop.
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Context really does make a difference.

When you say it 30 seconds before you start throwing punches it sounds badass.

When you say it as a vague threat, probably days before a fight, it's kind of petulant. "Oh, I'm going to get you *shakes fist* ".
 
Alienous said:
Context really does make a difference.

When you say it 30 seconds before you start throwing punches it sounds badass.

When you say it as a vague threat, probably days before a fight, it's kind of petulant. "Oh, I'm going to get you *shakes fist* ".
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Well, next to Supes, Batman is kinda like a child.
 
dragonyeuw said:
They're ideological opposites, motivated by different life experiences, but with the same end-goal ultimately. With Superman's attitude here, I can understand why Batman would want to take him down. Who polices Superman, especially when he starts talking about mercy?

And yeah, another one for not liking Cavil's delivery here. Hopefully this was just for the trailer and the movie has the same scene with better line delivery.
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The "My father believed if the world found out who I really was" line in Man of Steel was actually much worse than it was in the trailers. Prepare for disappointments.

#cavillmakesmetakeadvil
 
I want to love this movie, I really do but I can't. I don't like Zack Synder movies never have so him directing and doing the JLA movies is very disheartening.

IMO nothing they shown after the first trailer has been good. This clip in particular Cavill acting was straight up trash. I'm really shocked on WB put DC in Synder's hands after how crappy MoS was.
 
Sounds like Clark's heart really isn't in the lines' he's saying, Look at that little jaw movement he gives before speaking like or the flat look in his eye, I saw that look on my dad's face before a beating he really didn't want to give me. It's the look of Disappointment.
 
rrc1594 said:
I want to love this movie, I really do but I can't. I don't like Zack Synder movies never have so him directing and doing the JLA movies is very disheartening.

IMO nothing they shown after the first trailer has been good. This clip in particular Cavill acting was straight up trash. I'm really shocked on WB put DC in Synder's hands after how crappy MoS was.
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I don't get why people blame Snyder for the script of MoS. All the blames lies on Goyer, WB for rushing the movie, and partially Bryan Singer because of how hard Superman Returns tanked (Man of steel is pretty much the anti thesis to returns). Goyer is out, and Terrio has proven to be much more capable as well as the movie having a longer production and pre production run.
 
StaticJam said:
I don't get why people blame Snyder for the script of MoS. All the blames lies on Goyer, WB for rushing the movie, and partially Bryan Singer because of how hard Superman Returns tanked (Man of steel is pretty much the anti thesis to returns). Goyer is out, and Terrio has proven to be much more capable as well as the movie having a longer production and pre production run.
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So no excuses when its not that good this time, is what you're saying
 
rrc1594 said:
I want to love this movie, I really do but I can't. I don't like Zack Synder movies never have so him directing and doing the JLA movies is very disheartening.

IMO nothing they shown after the first trailer has been good. This clip in particular Cavill acting was straight up trash. I'm really shocked on WB put DC in Synder's hands after how crappy MoS was.
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You mean the same MoS that was generally well received and made 668 million WW? That MoS? The same MoS that, despite releasing last, outsold both Iron Man 3 and Thor 2 on home video? You're shocked that WB gave the ship to the guy that made that happen?
 
StaticJam said:
His movies look great, his camera work is superb, and they feel extremely grounded regardless of the source material.
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Too bad that isn't the only role of a director. For example from the short clip that was released. You have Superman basically threatening Batman and then getting away and Batman asking him if he bleeds and then after Superman leaves saying he will.

Now lest try to see how the director fucked up 10 seconds of simple interactions, if he wanted Batman to sound threatening, the content of the dialogue suggest as much, then the way it is deliver it is lack luster, not talking about the line itself or Ben but how it is delivered. That is Snyder's fault. There is no threat in the dialogue if Batman completes it with Superman going and at his back and worse is that Superman most likely hear it anyway. It would have been better to deliver the threat face to face and have Superman not think highly of it and then fly away rather than flying away then hearing the threat and not bothering to return.

The other part is Superman threatening Batman, now the deliver of the line could be a bad performance by the actor or a bad performance on purpose to stay in character with Superman that isn't used to threat other people. Now this is where a hand of a director can be noticed, someone with real talent would have never try to corner themselves in this kind of position because there are few actors that can pull this up and mostly they can because their acting history back them up, Cavil isn't a great actor not is recognized even as a good one, Snyder put him in a position where his performance would be attacked no matter what he does or how good or bad he did it.

I am not arguing that Snyder's films can't be entertaining but him be a good director? No way in hell.
 
Led_Zeppelin said:
Too bad that isn't the only role of a director. For example from the short clip that was released. You have Superman basically threatening Batman and then getting away and Batman asking him if he bleeds and then after Superman leaves saying he will.

Now lest try to see how the director fucked up 10 seconds of simple interactions, if he wanted Batman to sound threatening, the content of the dialogue suggest as much, then the way it is deliver it is lack luster, not talking about the line itself or Ben but how it is delivered. That is Snyder's fault. There is no threat in the dialogue if Batman completes it with Superman going and at his back and worse is that Superman most likely hear it anyway. It would have been better to deliver the threat face to face and have Superman not think highly of it and then fly away rather than flying away then hearing the threat and not bothering to return.

The other part is Superman threatening Batman, now the deliver of the line could be a bad performance by the actor or a bad performance on purpose to stay in character with Superman that isn't used to threat other people. Now this is where a hand of a director can be noticed, someone with real talent would have never try to corner themselves in this kind of position because there are few actors that can pull this up and mostly they can because their acting history back them up, Cavil isn't a great actor not is recognized even as a good one, Snyder put him in a position where his performance would be attacked no matter what he does or how good or bad he did it.

I am not arguing that Snyder's films can't be entertaining but him be a good director? No way in hell.
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Couldn't you also look at the scene as Supes not wanting to be there? He doesn't want to deal with Batman, he thinks very little of him and could easily stop him from doing anything. Stops the Batmobile, basically tells him his crusade is pointless, and flies away before Bats can even finish his sentence simply because he doesn't perceive Bats as a threat not worth anymore of his time. The entire scene is Bruce being completely out of his depth. It's supposed to be one sided.
 
Led_Zeppelin said:
Too bad that isn't the only role of a director. For example from the short clip that was released. You have Superman basically threatening Batman and then getting away and Batman asking him if he bleeds and then after Superman leaves saying he will.

Now lest try to see how the director fucked up 10 seconds of simple interactions, if he wanted Batman to sound threatening, the content of the dialogue suggest as much, then the way it is deliver it is lack luster, not talking about the line itself or Ben but how it is delivered. That is Snyder's fault. There is no threat in the dialogue if Batman completes it with Superman going and at his back and worse is that Superman most likely hear it anyway. It would have been better to deliver the threat face to face and have Superman not think highly of it and then fly away rather than flying away then hearing the threat and not bothering to return.

The other part is Superman threatening Batman, now the deliver of the line could be a bad performance by the actor or a bad performance on purpose to stay in character with Superman that isn't used to threat other people. Now this is where a hand of a director can be noticed, someone with real talent would have never try to corner themselves in this kind of position because there are few actors that can pull this up and mostly they can because their acting history back them up, Cavil isn't a great actor not is recognized even as a good one, Snyder put him in a position where his performance would be attacked no matter what he does or how good or bad he did it.

I am not arguing that Snyder's films can't be entertaining but him be a good director? No way in hell.
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Eesh. That's a lot of assumptions. You sound as if you're confident that what the actors delivered was less than what Snyder asked of them. For all you know the delivery of those lines was exactly what he was shooting for. You can dislike the presentation but that doesn't mean Snyder didn't know what he was doing or that he fucked up.
 
The Icon said:
You mean the same MoS that was generally well received and made 668 million WW? That MoS? The same MoS that, despite releasing last, outsold both Iron Man 3 and Thor 2 on home video? You're shocked that WB gave the ship to the guy that made that happen?
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56% on rotten tomatoes is well received?
 
Led_Zeppelin said:
Too bad that isn't the only role of a director. For example from the short clip that was released. You have Superman basically threatening Batman and then getting away and Batman asking him if he bleeds and then after Superman leaves saying he will.

Now lest try to see how the director fucked up 10 seconds of simple interactions, if he wanted Batman to sound threatening, the content of the dialogue suggest as much, then the way it is deliver it is lack luster, not talking about the line itself or Ben but how it is delivered. That is Snyder's fault. There is no threat in the dialogue if Batman completes it with Superman going and at his back and worse is that Superman most likely hear it anyway. It would have been better to deliver the threat face to face and have Superman not think highly of it and then fly away rather than flying away then hearing the threat and not bothering to return.

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i disagree
Based on the music (and yeah I know it's a silly thing), it sounds like this is more of a... well think beginning of Rocky montage moment.

This sounds like the moment when Batman finally decided he's gonna get serious about taking Superman down.

The score seems to be swelling at the end, not during their interaction.
 
PBY said:
56% on rotten tomatoes is well received?
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Rotten Tomatoes isn't representative of the quality of a film you know. It gives you a very rough ballpark, but it has just as many flaws as Metacritic, which is also terrible for measuring quality.
 
StaticJam said:
Rotten Tomatoes isn't representative of the quality of a film you know. It gives you a very rough ballpark, but it has just as many flaws as Metacritic, which is also terrible for measuring quality.
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I'm not saying RT or Metacritic is a measure of quality - but it is a measure of how well received or not a film is.
 
The Icon said:
You mean the same MoS that was generally well received and made 668 million WW? That MoS? The same MoS that, despite releasing last, outsold both Iron Man 3 and Thor 2 on home video? You're shocked that WB gave the ship to the guy that made that happen?
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In what world?
 
StaticJam said:
Couldn't you also look at the scene as Supes not wanting to be there? He doesn't want to deal with Batman, he thinks very little of him and could easily stop him from doing anything. Stops the Batmobile, basically tells him his crusade is pointless, and flies away before Bats can even finish his sentence simply because he doesn't perceive Bats as a threat not worth anymore of his time. The entire scene is Bruce being completely out of his depth. It's supposed to be one sided.
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Yeah but a director should work and convey as much as possible with the footage he shows. The problem with this is that we didn't saw the entire scene we can only judge was we have seen. The scene could be even worse in context or could be better. But here we have to value to point of the lines being delivered in the small context we have.

And in that context Batman's dialogue is to threat Superman and the delivery of it is pretty bad. The Superman dialogue is to downplay Batman as a threat and also warning him, which is achieved by having a poor acting performance and flow with it or having a poor acting performance on purpose to drive a pointless point that ultimately can only be archived and understood properly if you had the right actor. Both of this are a failure of the director.

Again Snyder is guilty of a lot of sins during his movies, I doubt anyone considers him a passable director let alone a good one and his movies show this. They can be entertaining but the guy completely lacks directive sense, which by contrast Ben Afflecks has shown to have tons of it.
 
PBY said:
56% on rotten tomatoes is well received?
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It's not a school test grade. 56% means more than half which equals the majority. The audience rating is higher and it received an Cinemascore of A-. It also has generally high ratings in the different digital stores that sell the movie. Not to mention things like IMDB. Using RT as some sort of definitive measure of quality (and Metacritic for that matter) is fuckin' silly.
 
A small alteration to the flow of this scene would easily address the many problems I have with it.

Supes: "Consider this mercy." (turns to leave)

Bats: "Tell me, do you bleed?"

Supes: (pauses NOW, not after the "Tell me" bit, turns to look at Bats)

Bats: "You will."

Supes: (Flies away, amazed at this mortal who isn't cowed in the face of a god's ultimatum)

This way, Bats issues his threat while Supes is still in the same zip code. They get to have an antagonistic relationship where the balance of power doesn't seem completely out of whack.
 
Led_Zeppelin said:
Too bad that isn't the only role of a director. For example from the short clip that was released. You have Superman basically threatening Batman and then getting away and Batman asking him if he bleeds and then after Superman leaves saying he will.

Now lest try to see how the director fucked up 10 seconds of simple interactions, if he wanted Batman to sound threatening, the content of the dialogue suggest as much, then the way it is deliver it is lack luster, not talking about the line itself or Ben but how it is delivered. That is Snyder's fault. There is no threat in the dialogue if Batman completes it with Superman going and at his back and worse is that Superman most likely hear it anyway. It would have been better to deliver the threat face to face and have Superman not think highly of it and then fly away rather than flying away then hearing the threat and not bothering to return.

The other part is Superman threatening Batman, now the deliver of the line could be a bad performance by the actor or a bad performance on purpose to stay in character with Superman that isn't used to threat other people. Now this is where a hand of a director can be noticed, someone with real talent would have never try to corner themselves in this kind of position because there are few actors that can pull this up and mostly they can because their acting history back them up, Cavil isn't a great actor not is recognized even as a good one, Snyder put him in a position where his performance would be attacked no matter what he does or how good or bad he did it.

I am not arguing that Snyder's films can't be entertaining but him be a good director? No way in hell.
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You make a good point with the Superman delivery. That could have been fixed as easily as writing in a "Are you trying to intimidate me?" from Batman. The 'Superman is bad a making threats' angle works in favour of the stiff performance but it would have to be conveyed that it isn't just weak acting.

As I've said, and I'm not trying to shit on the movie or anything, the footage from this latest scene just doesn't seem to come together well. But to Snyder's credit it's not like this was a problem in Man of Steel, so it could just be a singular off scene, but it being one they're using in TV spots doesn't fill me with
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The Icon said:
It's not a school test grade. 56% means more than half which equals the majority. The audience rating is higher and it received an Cinemascore of A-. It also has generally high ratings in the different digital stores that sell the movie. Not to mention things like IMDB. Using RT as some sort of definitive measure of quality (and Metacritic for that matter) is fuckin' silly.
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I'm not using it as a measure of quality. I'm using it as a measure of how well received something was.
 
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