Batman v. Superman RT Thread: like standing ovations in rain

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Yup, they are taking the film strategy and adapting it to the TV shows. Develop characters first, then make them a team. You don't just toss all of then in together and hope it works. It gives audiences familiarity with the characters, their personalities and how they would interact in certain situations even filled with different characters around them.

This thread is certainly proof of that.
 
Gonna see this at midnight. I have so many questions... But the main one is is this really as crap as people say... I'm dying to answer this for myself, so I can move on with my life.

For the record, I had such low expectations of the original FF and GL that I ended up sort of liking them!
 
Other people might feel like they don't need to waste their money or time on that. Either way, I haven't seen anyone in this thread talk like that, I was just humoring his bad point. My philosophy on reviews is that if I'm excited about a movie, then I'll watch it regardless but if a movie looks like shit beforehand, like this one did, then the only way I'll watch it is if the reviews are vastly different from what I was expecting. That's what happened most recently with Deadpool, which I thought looked awful from the trailers but the reviews made me change my mind about giving it a chance.

I agree exactly. I had the same mindset when Deadpool came out too, but I was thoroughly impressed. I will also see a movie I'm excited about, regardless of reviews. Now mind you, the more expensive the purchase for me, the more weight will go into a review lol
 
Batman V Superman: The Showgirls of superhero films (Ars Technica)

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Oh I know all the Netflix stuff is going to cross-over, but I'm saying. The shows, especially Shield, make constant references to the films and yet I can assure you that it'll be a long time before we even get a reference to what's going on in one of the TV shows, in one of the films.

Movies are the real money maker right? They don't want to alienate any movie going audience by shoehorning TV show references into the movies. It just won't happen.
 
Yup, they are taking the film strategy and adapting it to the TV shows. Develop characters first, then make them a team. You don't just toss all of then in together and hope it works. It gives audiences familiarity with the characters, their personalities and how they would interact in certain situations even filled with different characters around them.

No you can easily freaking do that. Hopefully suicide squad helps prove that. The problems being stated in the reviews are about the tone and the mess of stuffing so much crap into it.

Marvels way of the long game really worked out for them but that doesn't mean the other way is hard to do. Millions of ensemble films existed before. Its lame how myopic comic book movie fans are about this

I wish that George Miller justice League movie came out years ago. Would have been an interesting experiment and the action no doubt would have been top tier
 
Oh I know all the Netflix stuff is going to cross-over, but I'm saying. The shows, especially Shield, make constant references to the films and yet I can assure you that it'll be a long time before we even get a reference to what's going on in one of the TV shows, in one of the films.
Well I wouldn't expect the films to reference the Netflix stuff, it's pretty much just street level stuff that the heroes wouldn't even be aware of. Maybe in the Spider-Man movie we'll get something.
 
It's like critics are racing each other to say the harshest possible thing about the film. It seems like this is more entertaining than the film itself.

So you want to see George Washington crossing the Delaware shirtless, in slow motion, screaming in really weird lighting?

TONIGHT WE DINE IN DEL... aware.
 
Oh I know all the Netflix stuff is going to cross-over, but I'm saying. The shows, especially Shield, make constant references to the films and yet I can assure you that it'll be a long time before we even get a reference to what's going on in one of the TV shows, in one of the films.

AoS hasn't done much of that for awhile, it has thankfully found its own identity and has really focused on its characters (took its time tho). As long as it remains a clandestine agency and relatively small (until they are ready for it to pop up into a film) I don't see a problem.

Hope to see them mingle with Netflix stuff sooner though.
 
Coulson is not worthy to interact with anybody from daredevil. I like how they're keeping the Netflix stuff fairly separate from the rest of the universe. Daredevil especially is such a different tone from everything else. Like give him an action scene in an avengers movie sure. But THAT kingpin opposite a spiderman who's a little kid? No thanks.

It would dilute the hell out of fisk
 
I'm honestly surprised.....

I am too. I mean I expected the film to have issues based on the trailers, but not THIS badly. I'm surprised at just how low it's scoring, and I never expected it to be THIS bad.
 
But THAT kingpin opposite a spiderman who's a little kid? No thanks.

It would dilute the hell out of fisk

If I could get the scene where Kingpin has Spidey tied up and unmasked that would be fantastic.

Kingpin doesn't care for who he is, 'cause he owns him. He had the copyrights to Spider-Man.
 
From what I've seen Marvel are slowly building up the tv side of their universe like they did the films. Let it be its own corner of the universe, build up the characters individually in their own solos before crossovers become the norm.

Smart way to do it imo. Just takes time.

Yeah, I really don't understand the opinion that they are ignoring each other for reasons. It's classic GAF talking about shit they don't understand even on a basic level.

There are very good reasons, both creatively and more importantly logistically that the different sides aren't going as far as direct crossovers. It just feels like pure ignorance regardong how much work it takes to do something like create a 200 million dollar Hollywood film.

Script writing process, casting, setting up film locations, etc. take time and the Netflix stuff is still incredibly young. We have only seen three seasons total split between two characters so far. They haven't even met EACH OTHER yet.

If you expected Luke Cage and Iron Fist to show up in AoU or some bullshit you are probably just an idiot. Let's be real here. I totally expect them to leverage these characters in the movie in some form going forward.
 
Zero interest in watching this garbage but all the reviews and articles coming out about it are hilarious. That Ars Technica one has the winning title.
 
Marvel kind of treats the TV stuff like Lucasfilm has always treated EU stuff. The TV team's stuff claims to take place in the MCU, but the film team don't give a flying fuck about what the TV team is doing.

I think the weird thing about it is... the TV MCU is using characters like Punisher and Daredevil. Kinda fucking iconic characters that are, honestly, more well known and have a richer history than a lot of the MCU superheroes we see on the big screen.

Not exactly Z-tier Marvel characters, here. Not seeing them interact with the rest of the MCU on the big screen in Avengers 3 would be really disappointing.
 
It's either we get Fury Road or we get Justice League: Mortal

CHOOSE, DISCO, CHOOSE

Well mad max franchise >>> every comic book movie in existence so that's easy. But man he could have brought some cool shit

Immortan Joe as Martian Manhunter would have rocked. Such a booming voice
 
Isn't an Inhumans movie coming? Pretty sure that's deeply connected with Agents of Shield.

I hope that the Defenders will get a mention in Spiderman.
 
It seems that there are finally some people in /r/dc_cinematic that are beginning to enter the acceptance phase, but man, that subreddit is in chaos right now
 
Everywhere you look, TERRIBLE reviews.

Fuck that, movies are expensive and I'm not rewarding fundamentally messy work. I'm skipping this. Will watch on tv/streaming later.
 
Isn't an Inhumans movie coming? Pretty sure that's deeply connected with Agents of Shield.

I hope that the Defenders will get a mention in Spiderman.

But I'm sure they're going to do everything they can to make the story almost completely self contained and require zero watching of SHIELD to see the movie and fully enjoy it. Will you get more out of it by having watched SHIELD? Sure. Will the movie have references that only give a nod to TV show watchers? Probably not.
 
Isn't an Inhumans movie coming? Pretty sure that's deeply connected with Agents of Shield.

I hope that the Defenders will get a mention in Spiderman.

There is an Inhumans movie coming, but it likely won't have anything to do with or reference Agents of Shield.
 
Isn't an Inhumans movie coming? Pretty sure that's deeply connected with Agents of Shield.

It won't have anything to do with AoS, other than the obvious sharing of the concept of Inhumans. No movie will ever inform any aspect of its plot on that TV show.
 
I still can't believe this is Zack Snyder's second worst reviewed film on Rottentomatoes since Sucker Punch.

With Terrio and Affleck on board, I thought this would get scores similar to Watchmen or 300.
 
I still can't believe this is Zack Snyder's second worst reviewed film on Rottentomatoes since Sucker Punch.

With Terrio and Affleck on board, I thought this would get scores similar to Watchmen or 300.

Yeah, why would Affleck sign on to this given his rise to being a good writer/director? Then again, he was in that shitty movie with Justin Timberlake.
 
Yo one of the quotes in this review, I'm not even going to say which, made me just go "yep, that's Zack Snyder". Dude is like the cartoon definition of a hack. No sense of subtlety whatsoever, every idea or theme is just a sledgehammer to this guy. It's really frustrating because he has a great sense of style sometimes, maybe he should consider just becoming a cinematographer.
 
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