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[Lilalaunebaer]

The first cut of The Avengers got an R rating right?

Yes it was.

But because this is BvS the new carnival of stupid is in full throttle, and somehow WB also has a time machine to see how Deadpool will do in cinemas 5 months later.

 

[BKatastrophe]

Nah, I think they just revert him. Batman doesn't kill him.

edit: Just checked a wiki and apparently he gets shrunk back down to normal by Robin and Batgirl.

I checked to see if any of the villains die, because I distinctly remember one of them dying. Apparently I was thinking of the end of the movie where it's implied Freeze kills Ivy.

A Superman film should not need to be R

But a Batman film can be.
And this is Batman V Superman.
The theatrical cut won't be R-rated, so you can always watch that.

How is this still a damned debate? It's both Batman and Superman and no one really knows to what level the violence is that caused the R rating or who causes it or anything.

 

[karasu]

It's kind of weird how people think Batman is cool with an R rating but not Supes. Its not like Batman goes around killing people. Superman has killed a couple of times(executed three kryptonians) but Batman just punches people. He's never fatal. But there's stuff in both of their books that would be r rated. Jason Todd has already been mentioned for Bats. Just showing the shit that some of his villians does could get an easy R too.With Supes it could be his fight vs Doomsday, a battle with Lobo, action comics #775, I was reading that Superman American Alien comic a couple of weeks ago and it had some pretty violent shit in it.

This would probably be rated R if it were filmed. So would this:

I don't know where this Superman is only pg shit is coming from. It doesn't matter if you like the stories or not. His comics have tread this ground literal decades ago. Both him and Batman deal with nasty people who do nasty things.

 

[beyond_death]

I don't know where this Superman is only pg shit is coming from. It doesn't matter if you like the stories or not. His comics have tread this ground literal decades ago. Both him and Batman deal with nasty people who do nasty things.

From some comments I read on other places, it seems to me the real problem for some reason is that the comics don't have a "R" on the cover so its okay. Whereas on the home release cover for this movie, there will be an R plastered on the cover so it is not okay.

There was a mod on SHH forums earlier that went on a huge tangent saying basically this. He listed stuff like Killing Joke and Arkham Asylum as acceptable to him and I can guarantee nothing in this movie will be on that level in terms of mature themes.

 

[Shaanyboi]

It's kind of weird how people think Batman is cool with an R rating but not Supes. Its not like Batman goes around killing people. Superman has killed a couple of times(executed three kryptonians) but Batman just punches people. He's never fatal. But there's stuff in both of their books that would be r rated. Jason Todd has already been mentioned for Bats. Just showing the shit that some of his villians does could get an easy R too.With Supes it could be his fight vs Doomsday, a battle with Lobo, action comics #775, I was reading that Superman American Alien comic a couple of weeks ago and it had some pretty violent shit in it.



This would probably be rated R if it were filmed. So would this:

I don't know where this Superman is only pg shit is coming from. It doesn't matter if you like the stories or not. His comics have tread this ground literal decades ago. Both him and Batman deal with nasty people who do nasty things.

God knows if they ever adapted Black Adam's arc from 52 into live-action...

Shit was fucking grisly.

 

[Exodust]

I don't know where this Superman is only pg shit is coming from. It doesn't matter if you like the stories or not. His comics have tread this ground literal decades ago. Both him and Batman deal with nasty people who do nasty things.

People who don't like or don't care about Superman otherwise want to complain about a movie with Superman in it.

I will say I do fall into the "Superman shouldn't be dark" camp. But considering this is a Batman and Superman movie where they fight, and Man Of Steel already blew the doors off that when it comes to this series I don't get clinging to it as an issue. Especially when it's a rating for a damn special edition blu ray.

 

[aussiedude08]

You could have a Superman solo movie with a R rating. You wouldnt need to make Superman dark and brutal like Batman. But the Villain could be. You could have a Doomsday or Darkseid cause a R rating with out going overboard. and you could do the same with Luthor or Braniac. I dont think we need a solo Superman movie with a R rating because he is still seen as the clean cut "american hero" and would be more family focused then Batman.

I have no issues with an alt cut for home media releases unless they just put in violence, sex and language because they can. But i think if its related to Batman or the Joker it will tell the story and wont seem excessive.

By the time the Blu-ray comes out many would of forgotten this argument and wont care anymore unless they just added gore in and it doesnt fit with the film.

 

[Shamrock7r]

Question: Are you a Superman fan?

My post was sarcastic in referencing some other posts, if you go back just a few pages,

and yes, I'm a Superman fan

 

[The Artisan]

Read the thread. It's literally one of the first subjects addressed.

(short answer: yes, it's coincidental.)

my bad. but thanks.

 

[Kenzodielocke]

What if Wonder Woman is the reason for the r-rating? I read Kingdom Come and she has a sword so sharp it can pierce Superman.

 

[Exodust]

My post was sarcastic in referencing some other posts, if you go back just a few pages,

and yes, I'm a Superman fan

Ahh got ya. My apologies.

 

[Penguin]

Yes it was.

But because this is BvS the new carnival of stupid is in full throttle, and somehow WB also has a time machine to see how Deadpool will do in cinemas 5 months later.

Ahh so this is what folks are kind of glossing over.. not that Avengers got an R... but that you can be a simple R... and not a hard R... like Deadpool is a super hard R

But you also get R if you cuss like twice in a movie. Or show blood for certain situations.

 

[guek]

Ahh so this is what folks are kind of glossing over.. not that Avengers got an R... but that you can be a simple R... and not a hard R... like Deadpool is a super hard R

But you also get R if you cuss like twice in a movie. Or show blood for certain situations.

Let's be honest here though, Avengers was never cut deliberately for an R rating whereas given Snyder's history, this version likely was. Snyder likes his violence.

 

[Penguin]

Let's be honest here though, Avengers was never cut deliberately for an R rating whereas given Snyder's history, this version likely was. Snyder likes his violence.

Well, we don't know what he wants though

Could be a whole subplot that deals with something... I mean could be a flashback to Lex killing his dad... we all know he did it!

 

[Killing_Joke]

Yes it was.

But because this is BvS the new carnival of stupid is in full throttle, and somehow WB also has a time machine to see how Deadpool will do in cinemas 5 months later.

So this proves the MPAA is still shit. When people see R they automatically think of hard R when in reality it's small stupid shit.

Which is why TDK trilogy is full of quick cuts, 0 blood, and bullets hitting the floor instead of people.

 

[Sulik2]

What if Wonder Woman is the reason for the r-rating? I read Kingdom Come and she has a sword so sharp it can pierce Superman.

Nerd time, its not super sharp, its magical. Superman is weak to magic, always has been. They even mention that in the panel.

 

[Platy]

What if Wonder Woman is the reason for the r-rating? I read Kingdom Come and she has a sword so sharp it can pierce Superman.

It is either her going spartan or Robin flashback

 

[Shaanyboi]

Expanded details on the reasoning for the R-rated cut.

"BvS might sound crowded, but it actually got smaller as time went on—the PG-13 movie's two-hour, 31-minute run time will expand for home video with an R-rated "Ultimate Edition." The longer version will include even more brutal fight scenes, and some new characters, including a secret one played by Jena Malone, who was cut from the theatrical release. That illustrates the push and pull of trying to foreshadow so many future stories. Sometimes you throw in too much and need to pull back. "You have to get each individual movie right, and that's been our focus," says Warner Bros. executive Greg Silverman, one of the main architects of the DC slate. "Every movie has to be treated as if it's the only movie—while you're falling in love with how they're all going to connect." - EW

http://comicbook.com/2016/03/04/batman-v-superman-r-rated-ultimate-edition-details-revealed/

 

[duckroll]

I posted in the DC CU thread yesterday, but since this was bumped might as well put it here too. The expanding rating explanation for the theatrical cut from Singapore's rating's board:

Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice’ is set in the after-events of ‘Man of Steel’, where Bruce Wayne (Batman) witnesses the devastation that Superman had caused when he succeeded in saving Earth from an invasion led by General Zod. Fearing that the actions of Superman are left unchecked, Batman takes it upon himself to defeat Superman. However, the two have to put aside their differences and work together when a new threat to Metropolis appears.

The film is classified PG13 with the consumer advice of “Some Violence”.

Spoiler

There are several intense action sequences in which the superheroes battle with villains where exchanges of blows, sometimes involving the use of weapons, are depicted without details of injuries. The battle scenes include depictions of property destruction and citizens fleeing from the chaos, although no loss of lives is depicted. One of the stronger scenes of violence depicts a character losing a limb and being impaled by a spear. There is also a scene where one of the characters suffers a deep wound on his chest. These scenes are permitted under the PG13 Classification Guidelines which state “moderate portrayals of violence with some details, may be allowed, if justified by context.”

There is brief use of mild language in the film including words such as “son of a bitch”, “hell”, “damn” and “shit”.

So that should set a base expectation for how violent Snyder is making the film.

 

[Synless]

I posted in the DC CU thread yesterday, but since this was bumped might as well put it here too. The expanding rating explanation for the theatrical cut from Singapore's rating's board:



So that should set a base expectation for how violent Snyder is making the film.

Not quite as violent as I had hoped for.

 

[Lord Virgin]

Makes it feel like Superman will play a cameo role in a Batman movie.

A Superman film should not need to be R

So now it's a Superman film again? Good to know.

 

[Kibbles]

Expanded details on the reasoning for the R-rated cut.

"BvS might sound crowded, but it actually got smaller as time went on—the PG-13 movie's two-hour, 31-minute run time will expand for home video with an R-rated "Ultimate Edition." The longer version will include even more brutal fight scenes, and some new characters, including a secret one played by Jena Malone, who was cut from the theatrical release. That illustrates the push and pull of trying to foreshadow so many future stories. Sometimes you throw in too much and need to pull back. "You have to get each individual movie right, and that's been our focus," says Warner Bros. executive Greg Silverman, one of the main architects of the DC slate. "Every movie has to be treated as if it's the only movie—while you're falling in love with how they're all going to connect." - EW

http://comicbook.com/2016/03/04/batman-v-superman-r-rated-ultimate-edition-details-revealed/

"some new characters, including a secret one played by Jena Malone",

Thoughts:

Spoiler

Barbara.
Sucks we'll have to wait, but R-Rated verison gonna show Joker killing Jason Todd and paralyzing Barbara? hence his tattoos on each arm.

 

[Rastafarian42]

"some new characters, including a secret one played by Jena Malone",

Thoughts:

Was thinking the same thing.

 

[Penguin]

Some further details from EW

BvS producer Charles Roven, who also worked on Christopher Nolan’s The Dark Knight trilogy, says the “Ultimate Edition” won’t be gratuitous. “There’s not a lot of blood in our movies,” he says. “The ratings board also judges their PG-13 and R ratings by what they consider to be a level of intensity and how much that intensity goes throughout the entire movie. There are some pretty intense scenes in Batman v Superman, and if they went on longer and had that same level of intensity, that might cause the ratings board to shift their rating.”

http://www.ew.com/article/2016/03/04/batman-v-superman-dawn-justice-r-rated-ultimate-edition

 

[a916]

So now it's a Superman film again? Good to know.

LOL!!!, I love how the goal posts move so quickly to fit the overall narrative

 

[Dead]

Collider has an interview with Zimmer and Junkie XL

http://collider.com/batman-v-superm...utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=collidersocial

They ask them about possible new music in the extended cut, and while talking about it, Zimmer mentions the R rated cut is considerably longer.

 

[strafer]

Confirmed to be 30 minutes longer.

What was the mindset behind the film being PG-13 in theaters but R-rated on DVD?

ZACK The why of that is [the DVD version] is a half-hour longer, and some of that additional material is some of the stuff we took out for the rating. I was like, "Cool, I can put it back in for the director's cut." There was nothing by design. This was the material I just put back in, and then when [the MPAA] looked at it again, they were like, "Oh, now the movie's rated R." And, by the way, it's not a hard R. There's no nudity. There's a little bit of violence. It just tips the scale

 

[Timu]

Confirmed to be 30 minutes longer.

That's insane!!!

 

[Miles Quaritch]

I wonder how much of that is Batman backstory with Robin?

I doubt we'll get an idea of the content cut until after the movie hits cinemas.

 

[Lord Virgin]

What was the mindset behind the film being PG-13 in theaters but R-rated on DVD?

DEB Online, everyone's like, "Oh, they're doing an R-rated in reaction to Deadpool," and you're like (laughing), "We didn't just shoot it last week, and we also didn't edit it last week."

But the internet told me it was a reaction to Deadpool for sure! James Gunn was right! Don't lie to me Snyder.

 

[shortsFortallPeople]

I wonder how much of that is Batman backstory with Robin?

I doubt we'll get an idea of the content cut until after the movie hits cinemas.

the bigger question is if any of the events portrayed in those 30 minutes ends up being part of the DCU canon

But i guess it wouldn't be that big of a deal either way

 

[jackdoe]

That interview has this gem of a question:

Directors used to sleep with their leading lady. Now it seems like every successful director is married to his producing partner. Thoughts on this shift?

Holy shit, at the question.

 

[strafer]

https://twitter.com/dceufacts/status/713371669079789568

 

[georly]

https://twitter.com/dceufacts/status/713371669079789568

I don't want the dumb statue, but maybe the extra 30 minutes of footage will explain some of the vaguer scenes. I'm down. Any info on a version w/out the statue?

 

[jett]

Thirty more minutes of this.

 

[Can Crusher]

30 min is a lot. Another Kingdom of heaven?

Maybe there's a good movie here after all.

 

[Pandora012]

So this will have better editing....right.....RIGHT?

While I like the movie that pacing was horrid.

 

[Slayven]

https://twitter.com/dceufacts/status/713371669079789568

isn't that quick as fuck?

 

[Pandora012]

isn't that quick as fuck?

I don't know, but lately haven't movies been having a quicker turnaround? Though I suppose the announcement seems extremely fast.

 

[Sgt. Kabukiman]

30 min is a lot. Another Kingdom of heaven?

Maybe there's a good movie here after all.

God, i hope so. I've never even seen the theatrical cut of Kingdom of Heaven but I love the director's cut.

 

[Slayven]

I don't know, but lately haven't movies been having a quicker turnaround?

Yeah, but usually summer blockbusters wait for the summer to be over

 

[Flow-Walker]

They want it out before Suicide Squad hits theaters. So July fits.

 

[Pandora012]

Yeah, but usually summer blockbusters wait for the summer to be over

Maybe they want to use it to build up hype for Suicide Squad?

 

[Dominator]

Yeah, but usually summer blockbusters wait for the summer to be over

That's because it's March.