ViewtifulJC
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this was a children's book
that was a cartoon adaptation where the hobbits sung songs
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Batman v Superman Ultimate Edition rated R by the MPAA
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this was a children's book
that was a cartoon adaptation where the hobbits sung songs
Lost in the rated R stuff... we might just get a 3 hour BvS cut... oh my.
Damn, that can't be real?! Those heads!
Damn, that can't be real?! Those heads!
Solid SOAP
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Omfg. That Hobbit CGI looks so bad.
Now that's Peter Jackson...
I didn't know this got an R rating when Extended.
Poodlestrike
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Because decapitations are 1337 br0.
It really does seem excessive. The scene where the orcs are cut in half is really out there and 100% unnecessary. The camera also lingers on too.
Peter Jackson got his start in gorehound movies.
LOTR also had decent gore considering the rataing, BOTFA extended is actually classic Peter Jackson amazingly
This is really really sad to read.
JigglesBunny
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"B-But, Batman and Superman are for kids! They shouldn't be R rated!"
Bobby Roberts
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Number of live-action Batman movies (7) in which Batman does not kill or cause the death of another person: 1 (Batman & Robin)
Number of live-action Superman movies (6) in which Superman does not kill or cause the death of another person: 1 (Superman: The Movie)
The Artisan
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is this coincidental coming after the success of deadpool, or does it have something to do with that
Bobby Roberts
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Read the thread. It's literally one of the first subjects addressed.
(short answer: yes, it's coincidental.)
Tatsumaki Senpuukyaku!
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1 for 2 there i guess
And yes, it is unfortunate because it is yet another "negative" people can stack onto BvS without knowing a single thing.
The Hobbit extended cut looks tame to me, only stuff that maybe is a bit overdone was the shot where a bunch of trolls get their head chopped off and when an uruk-hai gets sliced in half by the carriage, simply because the shot lingers for awhile.
The LoTR had decapitation, people getting stomped by big ass creatures, some pretty messed up imagery (bilbo fucked up face when tempted by the ring). Remember Boromir getting a bunch of arrows through his chest? Oh and the entire Smeagol origin sequence. Those movie threaded a fine line between hard PG-13 and a light R-rating.
The LoTR had decapitation, people getting stomped by big ass creatures, some pretty messed up imagery (bilbo fucked up face when tempted by the ring). Remember Boromir getting a bunch of arrows through his chest? Oh and the entire Smeagol origin sequence. Those movie threaded a fine line between hard PG-13 and a light R-rating.
JigglesBunny
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The people going with the narrative that this is motivated by Deadpool are foolish and gullible.
DC made it clear that they're going for the "hard PG-13" stamp as the consistent tone of the DCCU, and Snyder is a guy who revels in his styilized ultra-violence. It was only to be expected that the film got trimmed in some fashion, I mean, just look at the action in the trailers and Man of Steel, this ain't your grandma's Superman.
Not to mention the time it takes to edit a cut of a film, submit it to the MPAA, have it go through proper review and rating, and then having it finalized. This was in the works long before Deadpool released.
It's a smart move, going for this approach of hard PG-13 and R on home video. I'm a big fan of the darker and more fucked up and violent DC comics, and I can't wait to see the brutal Batman and R-Rated Suicide Squad in action when these roll around to the home market. In the meantime, I'll enjoy the "fun for all" cuts in the theaters.
DC made it clear that they're going for the "hard PG-13" stamp as the consistent tone of the DCCU, and Snyder is a guy who revels in his styilized ultra-violence. It was only to be expected that the film got trimmed in some fashion, I mean, just look at the action in the trailers and Man of Steel, this ain't your grandma's Superman.
Not to mention the time it takes to edit a cut of a film, submit it to the MPAA, have it go through proper review and rating, and then having it finalized. This was in the works long before Deadpool released.
It's a smart move, going for this approach of hard PG-13 and R on home video. I'm a big fan of the darker and more fucked up and violent DC comics, and I can't wait to see the brutal Batman and R-Rated Suicide Squad in action when these roll around to the home market. In the meantime, I'll enjoy the "fun for all" cuts in the theaters.
Well Batman definitely shouldn't. I believe Zack Snyder has a fundamental understanding of these things that the other directiors who have had Batman did not. In virtually every other movie, he's killed or been directly responsible for the death of someone, even if those films didn't call attention to it.
Superman on the other hand... shouldn't kill any human characters at least. When it comes down to destroying powerful alien threats, there's room for interpretation.
I do find the moralizing about this pretty funny though. Captain America, the ultimate role model, is allowed to just gun down thugs in Avengers - but Superman can't reluctantly break the neck of an all-powerful alien trying to murder a family?
Kilmer also definitely sent Two-Face falling to his death
And people ALWAYS complain about this and an R rated killing would just increase the complains =P
Discotheque
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that moron brought that on himself. dude really loved his coin collection lmao.
Bobby Roberts
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Question: Are you a Superman fan?
On another topic, I am going to watch the movie but I'm also one of those who thinks it'll probably end up as dogshit. Now what I've noticed, more so than with other big movies, that soooooo many want it to fail and be horrible.
There's enough to go on to think the movie will be bad IMO. But complaining about a runtime of two and a half hours, a runtime shared with basically every other blockbuster of the past ten years, and it possibly having an R-rated BR release feels like silly things to get hung up on.
To be fair to James Gunn dudes it is easy to think of what he said right away, but we do know that it's coincidental and have said as much very early in the thread.
That pretty awful trailer and dumb Superman threatening Bats clip? Yeah, after seeing that I can understand complaining about them since they could be signs of a terrible and disappointing movie. Runtime and special editions of a movie you haven't seen yet as issues? Fuck outta here.
thetrin
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This is largely how I feel about it.
Bobby Roberts
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A lot of people don't notice that Batman kills very frequently in his live action version. I'm not sure why a Pete Holmes College Humor video with 9 million views is somehow a rebuttal to that.
That's kinda weird.
Bobby Roberts
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Either Batman breaking legs & arms, or Doomsday just tearing through people.
Any held shot showing an exposed bone or jetting/spurting blood would probably do it.
Any held shot showing an exposed bone or jetting/spurting blood would probably do it.
Deadpool, doe.
BKatastrophe
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More proof that B&R is the definitive Batman film. Although, doesn't Bane end up dead after the final fight?
Bobby Roberts
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Nah, I think they just revert him. Batman doesn't kill him.
edit: Just checked a wiki and apparently he gets shrunk back down to normal by Robin and Batgirl.
Joel Was Right
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A Superman film should not need to be R
That's what I'm expecting. Also maybe an extended scene of Bruce's parents getting shot and as others have mentioned a possible Jason Todd death scene.
Bobby Roberts
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It doesn't need to be an extended cut for home-video either. But it is, and that extended cut is R (for now). Neither of those things are needed at all. They're bonus.
The theatrical cut (the one more people are going to see, and everyone's going to see first) is still going to be PG-13. Apparently that cut DOES need to be PG-13, and as such, it's going out that way.
And again: That the two most notable (and the one most lucrative) movies about Jesus Christ are both R-rated kinda takes the bite out of the suggestion Superman can't be.
We've been doing this shit to our gods for a looooooong time. And if you wanna suggest Superman isn't essentially a modern god, look at how devout and dogmatic people are when they talk about him.
Superman himself can still be a PG to PG-13 character in an R-rated movie. It basically happens every year in whatever line-wide crossover DC is publishing. It's just funny how this was being percieved as a Batman movie just a week ago until this extended cut rating came in, and now it's all "How could they do this to Superman" like Batman isn't even involved anymore.
TheKaeptain
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It doesn't have to be. That's why it's going to be PG-13 in theaters and then us grown ups can also enjoy the R-rated version when it hits blu.
And a week ago you complained this movie felt like a Batman movie with Superman cameos.
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But a Batman film can be.
And this is Batman V Superman.
The theatrical cut won't be R-rated, so you can always watch that.
BadAss2961
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Well whose movie it is changes depending on what there is to complain about.
clay_ghost
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I feel that the opions have not changed ; a Superman movie should not be rated R and to many it seems like the movie focus have changed to become a R rated batman movie with Superman guest starring.
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TheKaeptain
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Except that's a bunch of speculating. Since we don't know why it got an R-rating.
clay_ghost
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But it fits the logic since Batman can be easily fit the R rated mould but with Superman it's much harder without it being a elseworld Superman. People speculate based on known facts and past histories (comics) shown Batman stories fit the R rating more easier than Superman. There are dark Superman story (Death of Superman) but they are mostly elseworld story (Red son etc).
Or maybe, just maybe, Superman is not doing the R-rated stuff himself.
BadAss2961
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I'm pretty sure this will still turn out to be mostly Superman's movie. It's all centered around him and his supporting cast. He'll get the big spot in the end.
Batman's coming into this world in a similar fashion to how his villains come in and take over his movies. So don't get scared if he gets the big opening like Joker in TDK, or Bane in TDKR.
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