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Batman v Superman Ultimate Edition rated R by the MPAA
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Mr. Poolman
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So, James Gunn was totally right?
It was the best part of an otherwise mixed movie. It's why I had a lot of fun with Man Of Steel in the first place.
Yes, They knew when they filmed this movie two years ago that Deadpool would come out within a month of their movie proving that an R rated superhero movie could work. So they filmed a few scenes in two different takes, one PG13 and one R knowing that two years later this would all make sense.
Probably, but as it relates to this movie, it's an ancillary point. Unless people think they went in after the fact and threw in some decapitated heads and "fucks" in post. With this movie, it just says they don't need to be so afraid of an R rating, particularly for home video.
Gunn is speaking more to including violence and profanity as an equation for financial success as opposed to creative inspiration. About the simple existence of R rated elements without any regard to cohesion or inspiration or any of the things that actually made Deadpool work.
Joke post?
paragonpro
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I think mallrats described it best when they used the term...shotgun
Also its important to note that this is only he blu ray directors cut. The same thing happened to the hobbit botfa, and 2003 daredevil. I doubt this is indicative of a larger trend, rather its not uncommon for directors cuts to receive a higher rating, usually for violence, unless there is a wonder woman boob scene in his cut or something.
I wonder how long before we'll start getting both PG-13 and R rated version in different theaters. Since the 3D vs non-3D versions are out there, seems like the next step..
I do understand the R-rated version is the home release - which is odd since most of the time they just call it the "unrated" version whether or not it has material that would cause a more strict rating or not... I guess they want to market the home as R rated..
I do understand the R-rated version is the home release - which is odd since most of the time they just call it the "unrated" version whether or not it has material that would cause a more strict rating or not... I guess they want to market the home as R rated..
Messypandas
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I read theres a "law" against studios releasing 2 different age rated cuts in theaters at the same time.
BadAss2961
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It really shouldn't even take reading past the title to figure this one out.
Tatsumaki Senpuukyaku!
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Will this version feature the full Tales of the Black Freighter subplot?
Yautja_Warrior
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They still might not have used the footage though, but we can agree or disagree all day long but it doesn't change the fact it's happening now. If it improves the movie I'm fine with it, but I expect it to be a tame R rating anyway. Hopefully the movie will be good regardless of ratings.
Frustrated_Grunt
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I don't watch many movies twice, but maybe I'll do it for this one for curiosity's sake.
jack_package_200
Banned
It always boggles my mind to see people throw tantrums on the internet over things like this. Is Superman being in an R-rated director's really the end of the fucking world?
WadiumArcadium
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Cool. I don't understand anyone complaining about this.
ShemhazaiX
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Not sure if you're trolling. The point that is being made is that they intended to release a separate version of BvS titled the BvS Ultimate edition, in September last year. The footage they sent in for review was intended to be rated R. In September. 5 months before Deadpool proved to be successful.
5 months ago they planned to release an R rated version.
Deadpool was released this month.
*descends into insanity*
flintstryker
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This is so stupid.
Why do you think so?
BKatastrophe
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This is the true Batman v Superman
Whoa, I've seen more run recommendations for WW than Supes.
But yes, this is a painful thing that I've noticed. People rarely recommend runs of the character, and more just one-offs and minis. Although, everyone should read Superman: For All Seasons. That's some truth right there.
Huh...interesting...
When you're right, you're right
Yautja_Warrior
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So looking at MPAA notice, which is dated 24th February 2016, Bulletin number 2413. The Batman v Superman rating notes, are referring to the PG-13 version - Bulletin 2393 (dated 30/9/15)
So if I'm reading it correctly, the R rated version might not have been submitted in 2015, and that date is just referring to the Theatrical version, which was submitted in September 2015, which coincides with the picture below, when the PG-13 rating leaked on the net - 29/9/15 (the day before the date on the Bulletin notes for the PG-13 version)
Could be wrong of course but I did find it a little odd that they would rate the Home version that far in advance and before the Theatrical version.
So if I'm reading it correctly, the R rated version might not have been submitted in 2015, and that date is just referring to the Theatrical version, which was submitted in September 2015, which coincides with the picture below, when the PG-13 rating leaked on the net - 29/9/15 (the day before the date on the Bulletin notes for the PG-13 version)
Could be wrong of course but I did find it a little odd that they would rate the Home version that far in advance and before the Theatrical version.
flaxknuckles
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People really got a boner for James Gunn being right
Directors and Extended Cuts are usually prepared during post production (Peter Jackson's Middle Earth movies being an exception). It's not unusual for them to be rated before the theatrical feature, it's just very rare that the new cut gets a different rating.
Can't blame him. Who really wants to read DC comics these days?
Lookings at the shared market, no one:
http://icv2.com/articles/markets/view/33658/how-low-can-dc-go
http://icv2.com/articles/markets/view/33637/comic-sales-slip-january
And the last good WW writer (Azzarello) wasn't appreciated by the WW fans who just butt hurt at the (improved) changes. Now it's gone back to the old status quo aka being terrible.
nocturnalis
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Lex does "the oldest lie in America" at least 2 times.
General_Frags
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Is NC 17 certification really bad in the US, an R rating here in the UK would be a 15 age rating maybe 18 in some cases.
IN MY TIME a director's cut was because the director didn't had star power to have their own cut of a movie and it was the director revisiting his own movie later on.
This feels like in disc DLC
-shadow-
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It basically means the film won't be shown in theatures. Showgirls killed the NC17 rating when it came out.
Edit: Well it can be shown, but no one younger than 17 can watch it and the rating is mostly associated with either extreme violence or porn or both (Showgirls is sometimes blamed for killing the rating).
bigboss370
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probably has the alternate ending:
How is it in disc DLC? The PG13 is released in theaters, because that's what the studio wants to show, and then the R is on the bluray. How is that any different from "your time"?
It's not like they are going to release a PG13 version of the bluray and an R version separate. If that is what they do then it would be bullshit. Even that isn't new to DVDs though. They have new versions release all of the time. If you really think the director is revisiting it later on just for fun then I don't know what to tell you.
Liquidsnake
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God I hope its not a case or Expendables 3
R VS PG 13, because that was a joke.
R VS PG 13, because that was a joke.
Scrooge McDuck
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It's not like those directors went back to the set later on and shoot some additional scenes. It's been like "on disc DLC" from the beginning.
And I feel something like an executive order of "we want the duration to be less than 180" or "we want it to be PG13-rated for the theatrical version" against the director's wish still justify a Director's Cut, regardless of when those cuts were made.
TheKaeptain
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You do realize Zack Snyder has had a director's cut for all his movies but MoS?
broncobuster
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In your time you ever come across a DVD menu for deleted and alternate scenes?
thequestion
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If DC wants R rated movies, they have other great characters that would fit the format:
Sandman
Constantine
Justice League Dark
Swamp Thing
The Question (Vic Sage)
Animal Man
Lobo (of course)
I would be down for a Margot Robbie and Poison Ivy movie with a R rating as well.
Superman should never be in a movie with a rating higher than pg-13...and even that is kind of a stretch... Batman, sure. Superman? No.
If a director is making a Superman movie with an R rated cut, either A) they are trying too hard or B) the director doesn't know what the fuck he/she is doing.
Sandman
Constantine
Justice League Dark
Swamp Thing
The Question (Vic Sage)
Animal Man
Lobo (of course)
I would be down for a Margot Robbie and Poison Ivy movie with a R rating as well.
Superman should never be in a movie with a rating higher than pg-13...and even that is kind of a stretch... Batman, sure. Superman? No.
If a director is making a Superman movie with an R rated cut, either A) they are trying too hard or B) the director doesn't know what the fuck he/she is doing.
George Oscar Bluth II
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Oh my god Kaep your avatar whyyyyyy
Mineshaft_Gap
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Does Ben Afleck hang dong? Because I'm totally interested in seeing that.
As a man who has been reading comics for over half my life at this point, I could not be rolling my eyes harder at this nonsense.
What did he mean by this?
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The Jason Todd death flashback/nightmare was too brutal for PG13
This is what I'm thinking imo. Rumors say we see a blur and a gloved bloody hand, I suppose the ultimate cut will feature the whole scene.
This is not just Superman movie, a certain character that dresses as a Bat is in it. Which you admitted is ok with having an R-rated movie with said character in it.
Don't know why people take MPAA so seriously anyway. The Avengers had a cut that to them it was worthy of an R rating just because Coulson's death was a bit more graphic, that's it. For all we know this could have some bit of blood here and there, and they decided to slap an R-rating to it.
It's not like this cut is going to be all GoT with gore and sex.
Clearly Dc don't want R ratings which is why the theatrical version of this and Suicide Squad are pg 13
Schweinehund
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A guy on reddit threw together the r rated hobbit scenes from the blu ray.
the horror.
Anyway I still want a Hard R Spectre movie. I could see Doom Patrol, Constantine and Lobo too. I think if WB ever did that it would be a separate branding with only loose ties to the DCEU, like Vertigo.
the horror.
Anyway I still want a Hard R Spectre movie. I could see Doom Patrol, Constantine and Lobo too. I think if WB ever did that it would be a separate branding with only loose ties to the DCEU, like Vertigo.
Shamrock7r
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Jesus.
If a Superman movie had violence like that it would cease to follow the spirit and the hope that is Superman the character.
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