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Battlefield 4 |OT2| Is it fixed yet?
- Thread starter Overdoziz
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As long as they know to stop when BC2 hits GwG
The Faceless Master
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is it time to tune up the band?
6 months ago I never thought I'd be saying this but I'm actually looking forward to getting back into BF4 again with this new patch. Classic Mode, in particular, sounds terrific.
So as someone's who's not played it for 8 months, what other major gameplay changes have there been since then that I should be especially aware of jumping back in?
So as someone's who's not played it for 8 months, what other major gameplay changes have there been since then that I should be especially aware of jumping back in?
- movement change to be snappier/mirror Battlefield 3
- revive timer
- netcode all around better
- TTK increased, making deaths less instant. Coupled with better netcode, makes it playable. Finally.
- decreased horizontal recoil pretty much across the board
- increased muzzle velocities pretty much across the board
- rush completely rebalanced, might be playable now
Game is all around more stable now, generally feels better, and is slightly more balanced. There are still design issues that 4 just can't get around but this is how the game should have been when it launched. I don't think it's a stretch to call this Battlefield 4 1.0
I'm still disappointed this is still "Rate-of-Fire Field 4", as the AEK is still going to be king of the tryhards. A TTK increase is only going to put even more emphasis on ROF, not less, even if you subtly buff lower ROF weapons.
Facism
Member
really? Amazing. TTK in bf4 felt like babby's first ADHD instant gratification simulator.
Ok, that explains it. I really hate to say that I'm relieved it was not my connection being the source of my lag issues. The games I played tonight were as smooth and rubberbanding-free as they should be. Though I really wish EA would extend The Double XP event due to the attacks on the servers.
It takes roughly one extra shot at most ranges to die. So now you have a chance to actually escape with 10-20 health, rather than dying. It also should cut down on the number of trades.
I wouldn't mind going even further and making it an additional shot, which would put it roughly inline with Bad Company 2. You'd have to nerf high ROF guns into oblivion, however.
Facism
Member
first game:
SLAMS were invisible
I kept getting ejected from the LAV when entering water despite it having amphibian capabilities
AWS had minimal recoil from hipfire. I held the button down and it lasered people at close and medium range. No need for bursts or recoil control.
shooting guys, watching them flinch, but seeing no hit markers or damage
Guy standing on C4 survives with 100hp and promptly turns round and headshots me
Still too many instances where it feels like i've been 1HK by a guy i've just engaged
Attack choppers are still coffins
My FPS are worse
SLAMS were invisible
I kept getting ejected from the LAV when entering water despite it having amphibian capabilities
AWS had minimal recoil from hipfire. I held the button down and it lasered people at close and medium range. No need for bursts or recoil control.
shooting guys, watching them flinch, but seeing no hit markers or damage
Guy standing on C4 survives with 100hp and promptly turns round and headshots me
Still too many instances where it feels like i've been 1HK by a guy i've just engaged
Attack choppers are still coffins
My FPS are worse
Dice gonna Dice
Thanks.
Yeah, I've not been a fan of how they've tried to balance most weapons around ROF and recoil/spread since BF3 either. Apart from a couple of redundant guns, BC2 had near perfect weapon balance and variety after a few tweaks here and there.
Oh my goodness; not having any visual recoil is amazing :'). I was using the QBU-88 & M16A4 and they're almost completely different guns; they're both so good now.
No visual recoil also affects the Gunner seats in vehicles! Tank gunner seats are deadly accurate now and aren't pea shooters anymore.
No visual recoil also affects the Gunner seats in vehicles! Tank gunner seats are deadly accurate now and aren't pea shooters anymore.
Patch Notes: http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf4/forum/threadview/2979150494051082340/last/
Too long to quote lol
Too long to quote lol
Indeed, I switched all my setups to 4x Acog instead of Coyote/Kobra. It's usable now! So is the heavy barrel. Everything feels a lot tighter and the way it should be. Getting a very BC2 feel from the game now.
They increased the time to resupply grenades and they reduced the amount of RGO impacts from 2 to 1
Operation Locker and Metro will finally be fun
Also increased the time to resupply and lowered the amount resupplied for XM25s.
MoFoJones99
Member
They increased the time to resupply grenades and they reduced the amount of RGO impacts from 2 to 1 and also decreased the blast radius
Hehheh, M67 Frag Master race.
Operation Locker and Metro will finally be fun
Just excited as you are to play a less grenade spam OP Locker/ Metro now
Anton Sugar
Member
Keep in mind, the only reason they increased TTK was because, due to the netcode, ADS, and other improvements, people were dying FAST in CTE. Increasing it doesn't mean it's increased from what was in Vanilla in BF4, necessarily, when you add in the other changes.
SolidSnakeUS
Member
I'd play some if I had the room on my main drive... because I really don't lol. Curious, any Premium sales showing up with this new patch?
In CTE, maybe. In BF4? Not until this patch. Why they removed that, I'll never know. DICE was boneheaded to do that. Basically meant you getting the drop on someone while falling was impossible.
Hahahahahaha.
No
SolidSnakeUS
Member
Why laugh? Even with a huge patch, having a sale on Premium on top of this huge, "make everything better" patch would bring people back I think. Not necessarily from EA, but could be from another site doing the sale.
Because if you were around for BF3 consoles never got a price-drop until BF4 was close to launch. Origin (PC) may do it, but it's rare. They don't price-drop for patches or the DLC like Steam developers do (hello Payday 2 and Red Orchestra 2).
I wouldn't hold your breath.
SolidSnakeUS
Member
Well, thank god I play on PC. I have seen Premium on sale for down to $30 before, but I hope it's down to like $20 or $25 maybe.
Mister Negative
Member
Patch notes say that iron sights are still affected by visual recoil, but I feel like my pistol has WAY less recoil.
edit: oh whoops shoulda finished reading.
edit: oh whoops shoulda finished reading.
PS4 got it for $30 too
Also, I can't wait to play with this patch.
SolidSnakeUS
Member
SolidSnakeUS
Member
I remember seeing it for $25 on Gamersgate several months back and holy shit did that sell out fast lol.
I think the straight pull on the GOL Magnum might be glitched, this can't be a real nerf.
Go into test range and try to fire any other sniper with a straight pull while ADS. You will notice the scope moves around a bit as another bullet goes in, that's normal.
Now try the same with the GOL Magnum, its like 10x worse than any other rifle. It definitely wasn't like this before since I've been using it a lot the past 2 weeks and I don't remember anything near as bad.
Go into test range and try to fire any other sniper with a straight pull while ADS. You will notice the scope moves around a bit as another bullet goes in, that's normal.
Now try the same with the GOL Magnum, its like 10x worse than any other rifle. It definitely wasn't like this before since I've been using it a lot the past 2 weeks and I don't remember anything near as bad.
Lol Seks, you got shutdown. They have already discounted it twice, why not a third time?
When were the second time? The only one I recall is that Origin anniversary sale which was still $40 instead of the $60.
It's not weird, its a re-release of a year old game. Makes sense.
AnotherNils
Member
Lord, the grenade tweaks are so stupid, but I imagine its a problem with the code. Sitting on an ammo crate for 25s is unthinkable outside of locker and metro. Ideally grenades should have a 39 sec cool down (or whatever you prefer) between resupplies, but since they can't do that apart from supply crates we get this shit. 25+ maps in the game and we're balancing grenades for two of them.
The XM25 change should fuck me nicely on Floodzone where I spend a good deal if time clearing our snipers, and it usually take 3-5 airburst to drop them.
The XM25 change should fuck me nicely on Floodzone where I spend a good deal if time clearing our snipers, and it usually take 3-5 airburst to drop them.
AnotherNils
Member
I mean seriously, they gave the v40s a triple nerf. Has anyone even bitched about them since, like, February?
You don't really need to XM25 the snipers on the roofs of Flood Zone, do you? I mean are they that bad on consoles? I may get sniped once or twice in a round and that's on Sabotage. I can't imagine them being that huge a deal on Conquest outside of sitting on a flag to reverse the cap.
But yes, the grenade nerf is a little stupid. I can understand why though. People were spamming even in China Rising maps.
But yes, the grenade nerf is a little stupid. I can understand why though. People were spamming even in China Rising maps.
What's up with that XM25 nerf? Zavod TDM is the only map/mode where it was even close to OP. Other than that it was such a niche weapon. Really only good for clearing out roof camping snipers, which in turn made the game way better.
The grenade nerf was made to make Metro/Lockers CQ more playable too. Fuck the other modes and maps I guess.
The grenade nerf was made to make Metro/Lockers CQ more playable too. Fuck the other modes and maps I guess.
They always have been. Step up, Tubie-kun.
(People are still going to use the incendiaries to piss me off)
Mister Negative
Member
Playing with someone else with a GAF tag right now, who's DrunkenMinty?
Was on Operation Firestorm, the two of us were tops on the scoreboard. GG.
Was on Operation Firestorm, the two of us were tops on the scoreboard. GG.
adamsappel
Member
Yes, they are that bad. Flood Zone has a constant sniper presence on rooftops (and GAF has been known to do it as well). The only thing that can take them out is XM25s and helicopters (but those are often used as one-way taxis by snipers to get to rooftops).
And there's no such mode as Sabotage in Battlefield.
You can see vehicles from the entire map while in a jet.
I don't think there's vehicle pop in at all on ps4.
SolidSnakeUS
Member
Legit Brazilian site has Premium for about $24 bucks.
http://www.reddit.com/r/GameDeals/comments/2hw96q/nuveem_battlefield_4_premium_2440/
http://www.reddit.com/r/GameDeals/comments/2hw96q/nuveem_battlefield_4_premium_2440/