-
Hey, guest user. Hope you're enjoying NeoGAF! Have you considered registering for an account? Come join us and add your take to the daily discourse.
Battlefield 4 |OT2| Is it fixed yet?
- Thread starter Overdoziz
- Start date
Tal Shiar Agent
Member
There is only one tag per map at a time. They rescan every 10 minutes or so.
we had 10 people camping the locations of the tags on our clan server. Only one of us ever saw a dog tag in that hour. Those odds are just plain stupid. There are so many more interesting ways to handle this.
That said. I can't wait to run around and shoot everyone in the back of the head with my bow as the look under rocks and tires.
That said. I can't wait to run around and shoot everyone in the back of the head with my bow as the look under rocks and tires.
Are they really? Normal vanilla servers have people playing the objective HARD on PC. (and weird vortexing of knives from 50 feet away)
The maps were great the first week, but after the whole phantom thing was discovered maps have gone to shit. Half the team is out looking for dog tags on any given map.
The Faceless Master
Member
oh i meant normal Final Stand servers... as opposed to the crapload of servers that are no-kill servers now.
Yeah, there's no kill servers on PC as well which is where I got my two tags from. I haven't bothered to check to see the oblivious people in Conquest since... you know... I'm not really wanting to jump into that mode and all. Dogtags aren't in any other mode AFAIK so I guess that explains why most everyone (besides a few clueless people that ask "ARE THE TAGS HERE!?") plays the objective/round.
This game would be 10 times better with a decent balance mechanic that preserved squad-joined or party based squads. So many good players switch to the better team, or quit until they find a server with space on the winning team. This results in so many servers with stacked teams winning by 400-600 points. It's really sad because the games where it comes down to 100 points or less are so much more intense and fun. Getting stomped or destroying the other team results in frustrating or boring gameplay.
I miss the old days of tribes where people would often switch to the losing team to even things up.
I miss the old days of tribes where people would often switch to the losing team to even things up.
Evolved1
make sure the pudding isn't too soggy but that just ruins everything
This modern emphasis on stat-tracking and plastering that shit all over the place has kinda ruined online gaming.
Pretty much. Again: TF2 kinda has it right in that it doesn't plaster all of that over your face.
Holy fuck the new maps are terrible.
All maps are filled with useless fucking snipers. My speakers sound like they are going to blow up with those fucking annoying sniping sounds.
Who the fuck enjoys sniping so much do to it round after round after round making 3 kills in 40 minutes, fucking hell.
And why the fuck is the airburst nerfed into oblivion to counter these useless human beings.
I will probably never play these fucking maps again.
All maps are filled with useless fucking snipers. My speakers sound like they are going to blow up with those fucking annoying sniping sounds.
Who the fuck enjoys sniping so much do to it round after round after round making 3 kills in 40 minutes, fucking hell.
And why the fuck is the airburst nerfed into oblivion to counter these useless human beings.
I will probably never play these fucking maps again.
Evolved1
make sure the pudding isn't too soggy but that just ruins everything
Dice should make it possible to play games without snipers.
They are cunts.
I say this btw even with sniper being my best class... I play an aggressive style of course and PTFO but it's far and away my best class. I'll beat >95% of the snipers out there in a duel in my experience. My k/d when I get into one of those annoying matches where the other team decides to be a horde of sniper dicks is absurd. That said, fuck snipers. Take them out of the game, they ruin it. Just an army of gigantic soggy twats. Such bitches so scared to go close quarters an get their scrub exposed in 1v1. So instead they hang back nine fucking miles away from anything important and shoot at people looking at the stuff that actually is important. Twats.
It's because of these assholes we have to deal with stupid suppression mechanics, killcam, and all that bullshit.
They are cunts.
I say this btw even with sniper being my best class... I play an aggressive style of course and PTFO but it's far and away my best class. I'll beat >95% of the snipers out there in a duel in my experience. My k/d when I get into one of those annoying matches where the other team decides to be a horde of sniper dicks is absurd. That said, fuck snipers. Take them out of the game, they ruin it. Just an army of gigantic soggy twats. Such bitches so scared to go close quarters an get their scrub exposed in 1v1. So instead they hang back nine fucking miles away from anything important and shoot at people looking at the stuff that actually is important. Twats.
It's because of these assholes we have to deal with stupid suppression mechanics, killcam, and all that bullshit.
Tal Shiar Agent
Member
Out of everything introduced in BF3 I believe that suppression is the worst thing ever.
AnotherNils
Member
I unlocked the auto spotter last night. Was marking dudes before I was finished scoping in. Highly recommended.
Heh, was playing Lancang last night, some guy was sniping from as far back in our spawn as he could. When last I checked he was 12-0 with 13k+ points.
Tal Shiar Agent
Member
If I actually used DMRs or carbines I'd use it. I like to stick to each classes speciality.
L85A2 for Assault
P90 or SR-2 for Engineer
AWS or M249 for Support
M40A5 or SRR-61 for Recon.
I've also been using the Bow.
I stopped using carbines after I mastered the AK5C and I've never used DMRs.
L85A2 for Assault
P90 or SR-2 for Engineer
AWS or M249 for Support
M40A5 or SRR-61 for Recon.
I've also been using the Bow.
I stopped using carbines after I mastered the AK5C and I've never used DMRs.
Yes, you only need one.
But you need three others with the other three tags. Plus finishing the Phantom Assignments.
This will make, whoever I'm forgetting that hates him happy here.
But you need three others with the other three tags. Plus finishing the Phantom Assignments.
This will make, whoever I'm forgetting that hates him happy here.
Facism
Member
Alright. Going to jump on, play a little Final Stand, kill some dudes--oh:
Played Vanilla instead. When Locker came up I ended up just sitting there watching groups of teammates all clustered together shooting the bow into the chokepoints. It's just a bow, wtf is the big deal?
i think they're probably trialling out how many people are addicted enough to jump through the fucking hoops to get content they've already paid for. as if giving them money in the first place wasn't enough, you have to fulfil these stupid, petty nonsense tasks.
it's honestly bullshit and something that probably going to get worse with their future releases.
I hope everyone's ready for a future where you're not entitled to the content you bought unless you want to waste time and EA bux on shortcuts.
Huh? You already had to jump through hoops since BF3. Phantom Program being Premium only is the bigger bullshit. Someone wants the Bow, if they didn't buy the previous three DLC packs
they're still locked out.
In any case trying to get headshots with the sumbitch is annoying when squad spawn drops three people on your head as you're trying to line up a shot on an oblivious sniper.
Yes, yes, why wouldn't you just buy Premium I know
In any case trying to get headshots with the sumbitch is annoying when squad spawn drops three people on your head as you're trying to line up a shot on an oblivious sniper.
Tal Shiar Agent
Member
I have to be honest, Premium is the only season pass I've ever bought. I'll probably buy it for Star Wars Battlefront as well. I know I shouldn't, but for some reason I do.
100 kills with Cruise Missiles is already in the game as a Gold Commander isn't it?
Oh no, kill 30 enemies with Cruise.
Well, technically you can redrop the ATV can't you?
The problem is getting people to use it. You can drop it in a safe place and say "it's behind A" to people that close by and NO ONE will use it. :/ At least if someone asks for a resupply and knows you're there you can get them to use the resupply point.
Getting 10 defib kills is slightly more annoying. As is the 50
headshots with the Phantom Bow.
Oh no, kill 30 enemies with Cruise.
Well, technically you can redrop the ATV can't you?
The problem is getting people to use it. You can drop it in a safe place and say "it's behind A" to people that close by and NO ONE will use it. :/ At least if someone asks for a resupply and knows you're there you can get them to use the resupply point.
Getting 10 defib kills is slightly more annoying. As is the 50
49 for me. D:
Yes but the first one you drop has to be destroyed. I think it has a cooldown too since sometimes even when my vehicle has despawned/destroyed it doesnt let me drop another. You get the bar that tells you you can drop it but the vehicle icon itself is white not blue.
It's even worse on ps4 since you cant tell people in chat about the vehicle drop. I've been lucky so far with 10 uses in about 12 games.
And yea I'm not looking forward to the phantom assingment.
You can't, even if you have the squad points for it. At least I could not on ps4.
Would be super easy if it let me fill the map with vehicles lol, or just at least redrop it somewhere else.
SolidSnakeUS
Member
Premium is $30 on Origin... hmmm................... not sure still lol.
Tal Shiar Agent
Member
They made such a big deal out of the hover tanks yet they are barely in the game! It should replace all tanks in the FS maps.
Kane Zakharov
Banned
You can only use a vehicle drop once your squad points meter fills up, at which point you have to spend the whole thing in order to drop just a quad bike on the map (which means passing on giving squad promotions, rapid deploy, and supply drops). You can drop a vehicle several times per match, but it has a cooldown timer that doesn't show for whatever reason (I'm guessing 5 minutes after your previous vehicle drop is destroyed).
The commander's offensive options (or lack thereof) is pretty damn bad, the cruise missile takes about a century to land on where you want it to (it's especially bad in the FS maps). The gunship being easily taken down by jets is fine by me though, nobody likes being bombarded 24/7 from the sky.
They should've just kept the artillery strike as the commander's offensive option instead of implementing a vehicle for it in which everyone who uses it camps in their spawn (Zavod 311).
It's worth it, extra year of content and support this time around too apparently.
They are in 2 out of the 4 FS maps. Hangar 21 is infantry focused so it makes since why it doesn't have them, and I suppose they could add them in Giants of Karelia but I think it's fine as is.
The main issue with the hover tank is that it controls pretty badly (on PC at least).
The commander's offensive options (or lack thereof) is pretty damn bad, the cruise missile takes about a century to land on where you want it to (it's especially bad in the FS maps). The gunship being easily taken down by jets is fine by me though, nobody likes being bombarded 24/7 from the sky.
They should've just kept the artillery strike as the commander's offensive option instead of implementing a vehicle for it in which everyone who uses it camps in their spawn (Zavod 311).
It's worth it, extra year of content and support this time around too apparently.
They are in 2 out of the 4 FS maps. Hangar 21 is infantry focused so it makes since why it doesn't have them, and I suppose they could add them in Giants of Karelia but I think it's fine as is.
The main issue with the hover tank is that it controls pretty badly (on PC at least).
SolidSnakeUS
Member
What do you mean an extra year of content?
You have to wait about a year to find a proper match on any of the DLC maps.
Kane Zakharov
Banned
Sorry for not clarifying. The Premium calender was recently updated to show months leading all the way up to December 2015. It doesn't show any specific content after this month at the moment, but I think it's safe to say that BF4 will get some extra content later down the line. I'm pretty sure CTE for BF4 will run for another year as well, so the game will keep getting support from DICE LA for a while.
If you play the game a lot, then Premium is definitely worth it, especially at 30 bucks.
SolidSnakeUS
Member
What is the full size of BF4 with all the DLC installed?
Like 60gb on PS4.
Kane Zakharov
Banned
PC is around the same size as well (~56GB for BF4 folder).
SharpAttorney
Neo Member
My money says, and I hope I am right, that they will never stop CTE. They will, of course, stop updating BF4 at some point, but will continue to tweak things and experiment with things and then integrate them into Battlefront and BF5. Just a guess, but it would be a smart way to avoid the BF4 disaster from repeating itself.
SolidSnakeUS
Member
Has the big animation and ping update come to the official game or is it still CTE only?
Kane Zakharov
Banned
Oh yeah, definitely. It's a win win scenario for the players and the devs.
Do you mean the headglitching fixes?
SolidSnakeUS
Member
Yeah, where it actually shows you're aiming down the sights now instead of just being the same animation?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJoKn42j6W8&list=UUP7QY6L5pvmm0-stL-pNFrw
Netcode patch in question ^^^
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cY-rVvQ-5ls&list=UUP7QY6L5pvmm0-stL-pNFrw
New ADS animation in question ^^^
Kane Zakharov
Banned
First time I heard about the new netcode stuff, thanks for the links. Both of those seem to be CTE only for the time being.
Tal Shiar Agent
Member
Thats fine, but there are still normal MBTs in those maps. I've barely gotten a minute in a hover tank since everyone clamors for one and they don't spawn for both teams when holding a flag.
Absolutely agree with this. Played those maps for a night on Monday and will not be going back to them. They are beyond awful. So uninspired as well.
I honestly can't even say that these maps have any level design to them. Everything is so vanilla, it's kind of impressive in it's own right.
The one good thing that happened that night was this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-0bwJXpcTI&list=UUMPVc-xkir0Z2aPmo7BxNVg
So yeah, I was so goddamn sick of all the snipers laying on their belly in their spawns as well. ;P
Also, you're welcome!
Facism
Member
Pressing F so hard.
Be part of CTE and get them in a wave (probably never)
Be part of DICE-LA (so never)
Be nominated to get this and DICE thinks you're worthy. (So, never)
And yes, it's a glitch right now. They'll be removed from you and others eventually.
Kane Zakharov
Banned
Absolutely agree with this. Played those maps for a night on Monday and will not be going back to them. They are beyond awful. So uninspired as well.
I honestly can't even say that these maps have any level design to them. Everything is so vanilla, it's kind of impressive in it's own right.
The one good thing that happened that night was this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-0bwJXpcTI&list=UUMPVc-xkir0Z2aPmo7BxNVg
So yeah, I was so goddamn sick of all the snipers laying on their belly in their spawns as well. ;P
Also, you're welcome!
I don't get it. How are the new maps uninspired? And the level design for the maps are a breath of fresh air, especially in terms of flag layout.
Only map that has the recon camping issue so far seems to be Hangar 21.
Thanks!
Tal Shiar Agent
Member
It's going to take me forever to finish the final Phantom assignment. Luckily I don't give a rat's ass about my stats because using the Bow is going to tank them hard.
As for the new maps I can say that I only really like Hangar 21. Whiteout is Sniper's Paradise, I've barely got 10 minutes on Hammerhead, and Giants is too unfocused and bad for vehicle play, at least with the BF4 vehicle physics.
I just want to use the fucking hover tank.
As for the new maps I can say that I only really like Hangar 21. Whiteout is Sniper's Paradise, I've barely got 10 minutes on Hammerhead, and Giants is too unfocused and bad for vehicle play, at least with the BF4 vehicle physics.
I just want to use the fucking hover tank.
Evolved1
make sure the pudding isn't too soggy but that just ruins everything
I don't know what that means... but reading it back I might have gone a bit overboard there. lol.
I can be a bit excitable.
F = R2 (er-L1?) = RB = Knife.