Anton Sugar
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Domination on the BF3 DLC maps was fantastic--those maps were so damned good.
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Battlefield 4 |OT2| Is it fixed yet?
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Enosh
Member
man, 3 games* in a row of the same mechanics and people still don't use the damn spot button -.-
*iirc bf2 and 2142 also had some spot system (I'm quite sure there was a weapon in 2142 that spotted enemies when you aimed a them) but bc2, bf3 and now bf4 use the exact same "press q red triangles appear" mechanic
*iirc bf2 and 2142 also had some spot system (I'm quite sure there was a weapon in 2142 that spotted enemies when you aimed a them) but bc2, bf3 and now bf4 use the exact same "press q red triangles appear" mechanic
TDM in BF3 was alright, even if it had shitty spawns. BF4's isn't that great, but it's a good "turn your mind off" casual mode.
I don't think I've played more than like... 12 hours max of it though. Probably more than the DLC modes combined, though.
He's talking the guns, which are based on weapon XP. TDM isn't going to unlock anything faster there. Attachments is where TDM unlocks things faster, but given most of the unlocks are by 10 kills each, there's really no reason to go TDM.
I play a ton of TDM because that's all one of my friends plays. Solo I play CQ or Domination. In TDM you can basically just stick to certain areas of a map and decimate everyone for a win, it's too easy. I like having to move around the whole map.
If it's kills per minute you're going for (fastest way for attachment unlocks) Domination is definitely the way to go. Constantly attack or defend control points and it's easy to pull off a 2+ KPM depending on your skill level.
You get so little XP in TDM it's ridiculous. My skill goes down into the 300s when I play because my SPM is so low. A few games of Dom and it's back up to 400-500+ lol.
If it's kills per minute you're going for (fastest way for attachment unlocks) Domination is definitely the way to go. Constantly attack or defend control points and it's easy to pull off a 2+ KPM depending on your skill level.
You get so little XP in TDM it's ridiculous. My skill goes down into the 300s when I play because my SPM is so low. A few games of Dom and it's back up to 400-500+ lol.
They have the exact same layout as TDM maps too so there should be almost no learning curve for you.
Kane Zakharov
Banned
Fair point. For what it's worth, the next patch is a make it or break it moment for me when it comes to the netcode stuff.
You have no idea.
Uh... it should. Didn't they put that offer limit on ice and made it available 24/7?
That jet slide-by still slays me. Along with the Infantry on AIr Superiority. IIRC that was a problem in 1943 AND BF3.
Maddocks
Member
Nope, it didn't transfer over for me. When I asked about it to their support they said it was expired and would have to pay for it again.
The Faceless Master
Member
IIRC, that was true for a few months after it expired but they reinstated it indefinitely. Probably due to massive amounts of people contacting their customer service and having it done manually
You should probably call their CS again. I bet they will get it done for you if you are stubborn enough.
Well, that Waterfall in the community map is going to be annoying as fuck to deal with. Snipers up there, beacons up there. Impossible to hit them with anything that isn't 20x or 40x and you trying to gauge the distance but the scopes fucking up.
If this is coming with the summer patch: Hoo-boy...
If this is coming with the summer patch: Hoo-boy...
PAUonePUNCH
Neo Member
*** Few Questions ***
If I buy this on PS4 right now, how is the game like without the DLC? Can I find matches easily? Is it worth it?
Thanks!
If I buy this on PS4 right now, how is the game like without the DLC? Can I find matches easily? Is it worth it?
Thanks!
The Faceless Master
Member
the game is fine without the DLC. the base maps are the most popular.
Jimnymebob
Member
I unlocked the attachment for my sniper that allows you to stay scoped after each shot, and while that sounds cool and all, I'm not sure I want to get rid of my bipod.
I've never been a fan of the hold your breath mechanics for sniping in games, and I loved MGO for the fact sniping was completely stable, so being able to go prone and not have to worry about holding my breath is something I appreciate. It also looks cool having a bipod that you can actually use, too.
On the other hand, I can see that it's a crutch, and I should try and get used to holding my breath so I can snipe reliably while standing or crouching.
Would you recommend I try and get good without the bipod, or is bipod a useful tool and worth sticking with?
I've never been a fan of the hold your breath mechanics for sniping in games, and I loved MGO for the fact sniping was completely stable, so being able to go prone and not have to worry about holding my breath is something I appreciate. It also looks cool having a bipod that you can actually use, too.
On the other hand, I can see that it's a crutch, and I should try and get used to holding my breath so I can snipe reliably while standing or crouching.
Would you recommend I try and get good without the bipod, or is bipod a useful tool and worth sticking with?
I stick with it, personally. Like you, I absolutely LOATHE the Call of Dooty Scope Sway that was added in BF3/4. Bad Company 2 (and BF2, IIRC?) don't have it. So it's more of the "CoD-ification" the series has been doing. :/
Anyyyyyyway, even with it on you can still hold your breath on crouch and standing. The problem with the bipod (and it's the same with the LMG or any weapon with the bipod) is the wonky deployment automation. Sometimes you can be fully prone on the ground totally flat and it won't deploy. But be near some cover that isn't level and it'll deploy. It's been like that since BF3 but I've honestly gotten used to that wonkiness since I abused the bipod on the LMG's in BF3 with the Snipers there.
I honestly don't see the "net benefit" of the straight-pull bolt. Yeah, you get your next shot semi-faster but you still have to hit the target and by then they'll (hopefully if they're smart) get into cover. That same time of target aquistion is basically the same as you bolting out and then re-scoping quickly. *shrug* I don't notice a huge difference between the two.
It's really preference. Try the straight-pull bolt and see if it's for you. It isn't for me, but I'm the same guy that bare-bones (no attachement besides the bipod and sniper scope/8x) guns. Ironsight only, final destination and all that.
Jimnymebob
Member
Yeah, I'm with you on that. I just wanted to make sure I wasn't sort of limiting myself with the bipod. I was noticing that on some surfaces, mostly rocks, the bipod would stop me from turning round past a certain angle, but shuffling along the floor helps fix that.
I'm definitely enjoying the game, and I'm looking forward to playing the current gen version in the future. I'm doing alright so far, as in I have a positive k:d ratio, and I'm consistently coming top on my team, although based on points and not kills for the most part. I've mostly stuck to the newbie lobbies though (after I found them, that is), so once I leave them for good I'll be screwed. I need to get used to the maps though, as I can't find a way to explore them freely, like in say CoD where you can host a private match by yourself and explore them. My favourite map so far is the one with the farmers fields, where A and B are right next to each other near some buildings. That, and the one with the big towers where you can climb up the wires to reach the top of them.
VincentMatts
Member
Hmm i think so. I have a few Dice servers favored and they have vanilla maps. Honestly, the vanilla maps are the best ones. I find games really easily but i have all the dlcs.
Just look for a empty server running the map you want to explore (there are a ton of empty servers). If you're really interested in learning the maps by yourself you can rent a server for a day (I think it's 5 or 3 bucks), lock it behind a password and explore any map. But frankly the best way to learn then is playing the game.
I'm not experienced enough to give advice on sniper rifles, as I run the sniper class with carbines but if I can give you one tip is to stay mobile. Don't camp one spot thinking you're safe. There is sooo many ways you can die on this game, and more often than not people will come for you when you kill then, specially if you're a bolt action sniper. Be prepared.
Usually when I'm killed by a sniper that is close to an objective and not a million miles away I'll just RPG or pro pipe snipe him if he is camping the same spot and I usually kill then.
Also don't ever forget to keep the mini map always on your sight and spot enemies!
Edit: Also find a good sidearm you're comfortable with. You'll need it. If you want maximum close range efficiency I've been running the shorty 12G with a full choke. It's great, just don't forget that it only holds 3 shells (at close range you can easily kill a single enemy with each shell).
Shorty's no good on medium maps where he'll probably be sniping. You really shouldn't be using a Sniper on Dawnbreaker or Shanghai unless you're playing as a dick that day. It's not going to cap objectives nor is it going to support with all the buildings around.
Use the M1911, MP-443, Five-seveN, or the like. Much better on the medium maps.
Use the M1911, MP-443, Five-seveN, or the like. Much better on the medium maps.
poppabk
Cheeks Spread for Digital Only Future
I hate whoever programmed the bipod. It's awesome when it works, but half the time to doesn't deploy. Of the times it deploys, it quite often deploys in a way that prevents you from turning like you should do. Sometimes it visually deploys but it doesn't actually deploy.
Kane Zakharov
Banned
I feel like the Bipod doesn't work well with the generally fast paced gameplay of modern Battlefield games.
Really??? Wow...talk about badmins...
It's not really "badmin" it's more them trying to prevent "head glitching" (despite that being mostly fixed) with the bipod. You still can get some defensive bonuses bipoding on cover and having your head "appear" to be hit-able but isn't in some areas still.
Throw in prone bipod people being able to shutdown hallways/doorways/chokepoints generally by themselves and it's not hard to see why they have that plugin.
(Shit, I locked down Metro nearly on Rush in BF3 on PS3 by myself on defense in the TRAIN area while the rest of the team covered B second set before. Only reason I failed to stop their tickets is having to reload after a bit and mistiming my reload.)
I know what you mean, but generally that's (IMO) balanced. Or at least feels like it's intenentional on blocking since you can't swivel a gun the full 180 on a bipod (IIRC?) due to heft and barrel/etc blocking from the wall/whatever you're using as the bipod stand.
Additionally it'd break the fucking game if you had full 180 control on your bipod. But Generally you get a good... 120 degree control on the bipod area to where you can shut down areas.
It works, as you've seen with bipod snipers, the problem is the implementation. Like Suppression: The ideal is noble (you throw fire at someone in the distance to keep them away from you) but it causes problems (bending bullets, blurred vision, bullshit hit-detection due to bending bullets/bullets not really firing under the effect).
If they fixed it the game would have EVERYONE using it due to how fucking broken the thing is in the right hands. Like think the IRNV + Smoke problem and Flashbangs currently cranked to 11 and the ability to have a 200 round gun hit a target 2-5 times from over 300-500 meters with accuracy depending on how good you are with ironsight/scopes you use. If it worked prone like it should everyone would just be prone bipodding and mowing anyone foolished enough to run around with a 3/4x scope and no recoil.
The Faceless Master
Member
King of the North!
Cpt.Underpants
Member
Is there anyway to reduce the visibility of the capture points?
You mean the UI? Yeah that's in advanced options.
Cpt.Underpants
Member
poppabk
Cheeks Spread for Digital Only Future
I'm talking about when it deploys but you are seemingly at the maximum of your arc at deployment, so the guy who was 2 degrees to your left when you deployed is out of your range. So instead of say 60 degree movement to either side you have close to 120 degree movement but only to one side.
Nono, I get that. Like I said, that semi-seems intentional at times depending on where that's activating. The whole thing is just wonky but I stick with it because the fact you have 0 recoil and spread using the bipod makes it worth the headache (for me).
Thanks
That's what you're looking for. AFAIK that shrinks the size of EVERYTHING in the 3D world, but try it and see. It should only affect the HUD AFAIK but I don't mess with any of it as I don't mind the cluttered UI.
Noisepurge
Member
draughn101
Member
Night maps!!!!!
Steelyuhas
Member
Is it just the one night map for now?
The Faceless Master
Member
ywah, just the one. IIRC having issues getting the others to work on last gen.
Yeah, they planned the night maps to be the last three maps for PS360. No Dragon Valley or the Community Map Pack in the cards for them. Which isn't hard to see why with how graphically intense the CMP is currently.
Right, before I forget:
VOTE ON THE COMMUNITY MAP'S NAME.
I like Haru. Falls, so obviously that one isn't going to win and something shitty like "Outbreak" or "Operation: Outbreak" (to tie into the "map lore") will be picked. :/
VOTE ON THE COMMUNITY MAP'S NAME.
I like Haru. Falls, so obviously that one isn't going to win and something shitty like "Outbreak" or "Operation: Outbreak" (to tie into the "map lore") will be picked. :/
The Faceless Master
Member
i liked Harau Falls too and voted for it.
OdysseusVA
Banned
I voted for Return to Monkey King Falls
Who doesn't want to see a Monkey King?
Who doesn't want to see a Monkey King?
Pjsprojects
Member
Bit of help please chaps.
Picked up BF4 on pc the other day but can't get Battlenet to work.
Windows 10
With Chrome I get it to run in 32 bit mode so no graphics options and thats with the new plugin.
With Explorer the Battle log won't go past the log in prompt.
At this point I can't play the game...
UPDATE that may help others.
For now use Firefox browser for Battlenet because EA currently don't support the latest Chrome and could not answer me as to why Explorer would not work with Battlenet.
EA are currently working on an update to make Battlenet work with other browsers.
Picked up BF4 on pc the other day but can't get Battlenet to work.
Windows 10
With Chrome I get it to run in 32 bit mode so no graphics options and thats with the new plugin.
With Explorer the Battle log won't go past the log in prompt.
At this point I can't play the game...
UPDATE that may help others.
For now use Firefox browser for Battlenet because EA currently don't support the latest Chrome and could not answer me as to why Explorer would not work with Battlenet.
EA are currently working on an update to make Battlenet work with other browsers.