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Battlefield 4 |OT2| Is it fixed yet?
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maverickjesus
Member
Why the shitbag does EU Sony have to wait a week to get the new maps? 
Starting to notice more and more the gradual shift in aerial play styles as the game has evolved - previously you would have some groups of players making a living out of camping the scout helo and putting very little effort in to rack up silly kill numbers (hilarious splash damage helped a lot), now even the best players struggle to make decent headway what with being forced to use the miniguns, to the point where even diehard anti-air infantry like me can't even be bothered to target them any more. The threat just isn't there unless you are out in the open and isolated.
Flip it over to the other side, and the same helo obsessives have all switched over to using the attack helo on Dawnbreaker/Siege exclusively, which is surprisingly hard to take down now the SRAW is useless and a building to hide behind is never more than 100m away. Short of getting lucky and disabling them into a building its been really challenging (AA with active radar still wrecks shit when available but they have been OP for a while - surprised DICE haven't caved and nerfed it yet). So now it finally feels like the Scout/Attack helo balance is at least vaguely realistic, which is promising.
Apart from the retard-level nerf on the UCAV, I don't really disagree with the state of the game at the minute - I've even started using post-nerf SLAMs as a way to disable armour before following up with an RPG, which *shock horror* is what they are actually for.
Starting to notice more and more the gradual shift in aerial play styles as the game has evolved - previously you would have some groups of players making a living out of camping the scout helo and putting very little effort in to rack up silly kill numbers (hilarious splash damage helped a lot), now even the best players struggle to make decent headway what with being forced to use the miniguns, to the point where even diehard anti-air infantry like me can't even be bothered to target them any more. The threat just isn't there unless you are out in the open and isolated.
Flip it over to the other side, and the same helo obsessives have all switched over to using the attack helo on Dawnbreaker/Siege exclusively, which is surprisingly hard to take down now the SRAW is useless and a building to hide behind is never more than 100m away. Short of getting lucky and disabling them into a building its been really challenging (AA with active radar still wrecks shit when available but they have been OP for a while - surprised DICE haven't caved and nerfed it yet). So now it finally feels like the Scout/Attack helo balance is at least vaguely realistic, which is promising.
Apart from the retard-level nerf on the UCAV, I don't really disagree with the state of the game at the minute - I've even started using post-nerf SLAMs as a way to disable armour before following up with an RPG, which *shock horror* is what they are actually for.
VincentMatts
Member
I left my ps4 on standby for this.
Enosh
Member
PSA: map out, if on pc go to the origin store and search for "night operations" and buy the expansion, will show up at the same place as all the others (it's 0€, some 780 MB
it's fun, but only did 1 game on it, obviously most people running around with flirs and stuff like that, plus flares everywhere to counter them ^^
you getting the map a week latter, patch seems to be the same for everyone
, some 780 MB it's fun, but only did 1 game on it, obviously most people running around with flirs and stuff like that, plus flares everywhere to counter them ^^
- September 1: The Summer Patch rolling out on all platforms worldwide.
you getting the map a week latter, patch seems to be the same for everyone
Oh well, that sucks.
shadowsdarknes
Member
Will this community map now be part of the cycle of base maps?
USF
Member
Same here
USF
Member
It's now up on US Store (PS4)
https://store.playstation.com/#!/en...ions/cid=UP0006-CUSA00110_00-XPACK05000000000
https://store.playstation.com/#!/en...ions/cid=UP0006-CUSA00110_00-XPACK05000000000
OdysseusVA
Banned
I still don't know why they decided on one of the worst maps in the game to do this with.
It's nothing more than people using IRNV like they've been doing. Oh sure, you can use Flares and Flashlights to attempt to counter that but it isn't as radical a gameplay change as DICE-LA claims it is.
It's a beautiful map and it's not that dark IMO. Only B,C,D flags are somewhat hard to see. I was using a Coyote Sight on the map and did fine.
My biggest annoyance was that the round I played on took 30+ minutes with 800 tickets each side. Ticket bleed felt slower on Night Zavod for some reason.
http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf4/forum/threadview/2955064797075140641/
poppabk
Cheeks Spread for Digital Only Future
It makes the already thrilling game of will my T-UGS deploy here even more exciting as you now get no visual indication that there is a 50:50 chance that it will work like you used to.
Tal Shiar Agent
Member
Didn't realize Night Operations was a separate download from the patch...
This caught me out too, but I can understand why they did it.
Tal Shiar Agent
Member
god dang I was so excited for Zavod night. Talk about let down.
did they used a map littered with knee high obstacles just to be dicks.
not one hardcore server today. last night they had one with 21 people in the queue.
not one full server of hardcore or reg so far today.
there are 21 modes to join in quickmatch. 18 of them are DOA. Why the hell did they need to make 3 more options just for one new night map? Does Dice take pride in splintering and destroying their own user base?
did they used a map littered with knee high obstacles just to be dicks.
not one hardcore server today. last night they had one with 21 people in the queue.
not one full server of hardcore or reg so far today.
there are 21 modes to join in quickmatch. 18 of them are DOA. Why the hell did they need to make 3 more options just for one new night map? Does Dice take pride in splintering and destroying their own user base?
Because Demize99 just LUUUUUUUUUUUURVES quickmatch because he's a lazy git that can't use server filters to filter night maps with/without rotation.
Tal Shiar Agent
Member
I wonder if he is the fucker that said no to a server browser in Battlefront?
Enjoyed what I played of Graveyard Shift Zavod. Definitely changes how that map plays out. It turns me into a sneaky little bastard that waits in the darkness at an objective waiting for the enemy to try and cap.
For my load out on the night map I always remove my laser sight, attach a suppressor, and just use my Kobra site since all the flashlights blind the shit out of the IRNV. I do attach a flashlight myself for the pitch black areas like the tunnel underneath the two warehouses.
For my load out on the night map I always remove my laser sight, attach a suppressor, and just use my Kobra site since all the flashlights blind the shit out of the IRNV. I do attach a flashlight myself for the pitch black areas like the tunnel underneath the two warehouses.
That sucks. For everything or just Graveyard Zavod?
Looks like hardcore servers wont show up for either console for any map at this point
I was able to join hardcore servers through my favorites list.
VincentMatts
Member
So maybe im not getting it but, why would anyone wanna play on a map where you dont see shit and all you see are flashlights everywhere giving positions away? That was a horrible experience.
IbizaPocholo
NeoGAFs Kent Brockman
I think the same.
Check to see if your filters reset. Patches always reset settings and shit and break things you set. :/
In other news: Thanks for the XP boosts when I've hit cap, DICE? No, really. SO USEFUL!
!(SMH)
shadowsdarknes
Member
Everyone seems to be using MBT laws now.
Yeah they are weak as hell, but I'm not a fan of people hitting my tank while Im moving fairly fast.
Half of these people wouldn't be able to make these shots with the RpG, Smaw, or even the SRAW.
Everyone seems to have abandoned the SRAW, including me. I'm using the SMAW right now.
But it's really slow. I can't hit choppers for the life of me.
I appreciate the lack of drop, but I may go back to the RPG.
But yeah, I'm sick of the MBT laws. Everyone seems to be using them. Its greatly increasing the amount of shots my tank has been taking.
I'd commend someone who pulled off a great SRAW shot. But these MBT laws are just noobish as hell.
Yeah they are weak as hell, but I'm not a fan of people hitting my tank while Im moving fairly fast.
Half of these people wouldn't be able to make these shots with the RpG, Smaw, or even the SRAW.
Everyone seems to have abandoned the SRAW, including me. I'm using the SMAW right now.
But it's really slow. I can't hit choppers for the life of me.
I appreciate the lack of drop, but I may go back to the RPG.
But yeah, I'm sick of the MBT laws. Everyone seems to be using them. Its greatly increasing the amount of shots my tank has been taking.
I'd commend someone who pulled off a great SRAW shot. But these MBT laws are just noobish as hell.
Tal Shiar Agent
Member
Not a fan of the night map. Battlefield 4's gameplay isn't really conducive to a night environment. I hope the Community map and Dragon Valley come out before the end of the month or I'll probably never play them.
I started to use it because of the LAW clan. I stuck with it because of the Magnet pull and people whining about Parajavs and the SRAW nerf.
Why use the SMAW when the RPG-7 does more damage and the LAW allows Magnet Pulls past the active protection everyone and their mother
besides me
"Yeah but these Javelins are n00b as hell. Yeah but these Stingers/IGLA are n00b as hell. Yeah but these SRAWs are n00b as hell."
Anti-vehicle people can't win for lose.
my thoughts too. It just feels wrong, especially on a map like Zavod. Conquest large requires to much traversing to capture flags. Zavod day, I can cruise the whole map capturing flags without a problem. At night, I can't move 20yards without someone shooting me from a shadow. Perhaps it would work better with only 3 flags or a new mode made just for night maps. But just making a map dark ain't fun for anyone except the guy that doesn't move or pfto.
The Faceless Master
Member
SRAW nerf made people switch.
I'm using it for the mastery dog tag. I never noticed how good it was since I hadn't used it since launch. It flies just as straight as the SMAW with a faster reload and the range for the "lock on" is really far.
shadowsdarknes
Member
I never saw anything noobish about the SRAW. Especially because you have to guide the missile and make yourself vulnerable much like the Javelin.
But yeah, I like the SMAW largely because of the trajectory making it easier to kill long distance infantry. But I'm going back to the RPG.
I stand by the MBT Law being fucking dumb.
But yeah, I like the SMAW largely because of the trajectory making it easier to kill long distance infantry. But I'm going back to the RPG.
I stand by the MBT Law being fucking dumb.
It's a separate download on X360 and X1, I guess it's the same on other platform.
EDIT: I can't find it on the PSN webstore so it's probably included
Anyway, I just completed this:
13 Schipunov kills and a few more wins and I'm done with Final Stand.
I'm going to take a break though because I still need to complete 1 achievement for each DLC, and I'm still at 0 UCAV kills :/
The Faceless Master
Member
It's a separate download on X360 and X1, I guess it's the same on other platform.
EDIT: I can't find it on the PSN webstore so it's probably included
Anyway, I just completed this:
13 Schipunov kills and a few more wins and I'm done with Final Stand.
I'm going to take a break though because I still need to complete 1 achievement for each DLC, and I'm still at 0 UCAV kills :/
it's there
https://store.playstation.com/#!/en...ions/cid=UP0006-CUSA00110_00-XPACK05000000000
https://store.playstation.com/#!/en...ions/cid=UP0006-BLUS31162_00-XPACK05000000000
and congrats on the Railgun cheevo!
I forgot they're releasing it one week later for EU PSN users, that's why I couldn't find it.
Did they give any reason for that? It makes no sense imho
Not the actual achievement (need 2 more assignments for that
) but thank you!I also completed the achievements for Naval Strike and Second Assault today.
To get 100% I need:
China Rising: 20 UCAV kills (LOL)
Dragon's Teeth: 3 more hours
Final Stand: 13 Schipunov kills and a few wins in various maps
I'm only going for achievements because I plan on upgrading to next-gen asap and don't want to leave behind cross-gen achievements. BF4 would be one of the few games I would sell to get the upgraded next-gen version.
The Faceless Master
Member
Not the actual achievement (need 2 more assignments for that
I also completed the achievements for Naval Strike and Second Assault today.
To get 100% I need:
China Rising: 20 UCAV kills (LOL)
Dragon's Teeth: 3 more hours
Final Stand: 13 Schipunov kills and a few wins in various maps
UCAV kills aren't so bad. kinda rough to get started after the nerf because of the delay, but still doable.
and i'm congratulating you on the Railgun assignment. for me that one is/was the most annoying.
SRAW had the ability to continue to circle a flared and dodged chopper until it hit. It needed to be changed to the AT4 a la BC2 guiding but DICE-LA is stupid and doesn't do common sense fixes. Alas.
The other major problem (which wasn't as huge as the whiners made it out to be) was that Paradropping SRAWs were able to one-shot people on the ground. Throw in the re-lock after reloading and two-shot lock-on ability of the SRAW and there were some valid but not huge issues.
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I still kinda want to get started on the PS3 version
double so since after night Zavod it isn't going to get the other bullshit night maps, if it did get Zavod night.