I cannot even fathom how you can actually say "the L85 should never use an angled grip"... With such a statement you have completely lost my attention.
Vertical recoil is an absolute joke of a factor. By far the easiest recoil to control at a given time.
If you have problems controlling it, as stated before, i don't know what to tell you.
The stat is useless and means nothing to me, as i can control it.
Especially on my main weapon., its second nature.
I exclusively use an angled suppressor on the weapon.
Going exclusively by symthic, the straight grip is the only viable option... Sure.
Because symthic takes into account stability, a useless factor.
You can read symthics forums, its full of very smart and talented players, who will tell you the same.
Symthic is automated, the people on its forums and editors aren't.
An angled grip semi-counteracts the guns micro bursting accuracy.
Accuracy, being the second highest stat in a game that has as bad a netcode set as this one is a treasure.
With stability being an afterthought for people who can control their weapons, especially their favorite and main weapons.. There is only accuracy.
The only attatchment that deal with such, is the angled grip.
Im at 7000 kills with the gun, its my main.
In pubs i literally look at someone, micro burst at 450m and kill with an angled grip, i honestly have no idea how long you have been using the gun, but with its velocity and nearly 0 horizontal recoil the gun is the literal definition of a lazer.
My accuracy in pubs with the grip is 27%, unheard of and nearly every follow up shot hits.
You can win with the weapon even if your god awful at the game.
The angled is a staple for any respectable auto medium-long range rifle, or any weapon with a high damage calc at range above 100m.
Results talk.
As for the 52,
You use the gun because its versatile.
Its why we use it as the only subsitiute to the 23 is out ESL/GB games.
It has respectable hip fire due to its damage and stock set, as well as respectable microbursting with an extremely to handle recoil.
We dont microburst hardly ever in pro games, so that doesn't really apply, I'm using it as an example.
Yes, you can microburst with any weapon.
The same way you can control the recoil with any weapon, which is why stability is useless as well, while on the topic.
If you land every shot with a 52, you are doing more damage than you would with any automatic weapon in that instance.
In practice, if your bad... You will obviously aim for the gun thats less high risk and reward, one that has a higher velocity and ROF, as when shooting at range, you can miss more when leading.
If your not bad and cant lead your shots as well as handle your recoil, you will land your shots every time depending on your positioning, you have the tools.
The angled for its velocity and damage, as well as the suppressor due to the velocity.
As for your first statement... Wut.
I didn't even say muzzle break.
Truth be told, you can succeed with any weapon in a pub environment,
Anything, its why i have my pistol only games in pub servers.
Been playing every day since day one, so i will reiterate once again before its brought up again... Stability is useless.
It can be controlled on every weapon, especially on a PC.
I honestly don't have the time to argue simple gameplay mechanics with paper math that has 0 results to back it up.
I have used an angled grip on a ump to great success as a fun weapon, regardless of what the early results say.
Im in the middle of playing south park and would love to get back to it