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If it doesn't support a disc drive there is no way I'll ever buy it.
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billbil-kun - PS5 Pro: design leak, size close to slim, announcement window in firstr half of Spetember
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jm89
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It will at the very least support it by the detachable disc drive.
Question is are sony going to have a model that has one already preinstalled.
HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
Why would they make it all black when they know there are a lot of us who will pay them for black plates
Plus they will make it just different enough we need all new black plates for when we trade in our OG PS5s
Evil Calvin
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WTF is a Billbil-Kun?
BlackTron
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Why would they make it all black when they know there are a lot of us who will pay them for black plates
Plus they will make it just different enough we need all new black plates for when we trade in our OG PS5s
I thought of mentioning plates but I really think it's mainly about making gens easy to tell apart in a world of plastic boxes. They want someone to be able to tell its the new gen on sight without squinting or reading anything. Which is why PS5 wasn't another black box but 6 could be.
I don't really care that much about the color but the oreo router thing is just really bad. It's good branding though which in the end matters more I guess.
MatrixReloaded101
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If not, they want you to buy the disc drive add on. This console is a total cash grab from the looks of things.
I’m really curious to know what features this thing will have.
Sethbacca
Member
That would make an amazing special edition.
MatrixReloaded101
Member
Not really, it’s suppose to be a niche product for the hardcore audience. They don’t expect it to sell more than the OG model most likely.
TheRedRiders
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Is this real?
Draugoth
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reinking
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Isn't the disc drive alone $79.99? It would not make sense to price the digital edition $100 less if it is cheaper to just add the drive separate. Unless they severely limit the stock of the digital console.
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TheRedRiders
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We're just sharing fake mock ups with random prices and dates... what is this, Twitter?
saintjules
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Why would they make it all black when they know there are a lot of us who will pay them for black plates
Plus they will make it just different enough we need all new black plates for when we trade in our OG PS5s
I'll never trade in my hardware lol. Now I can have maor PS5s in the home
Inflation is not a new thing that started post 2016.
The more powerful performance is precisely the reason for the $100 leap.
Their goals were made well before anyone knew Wukong would be a significant hit. All based on the regular PS5 console.
The 2TB Xbox will be a relatively niche version. And the major cost item there is the extra 1TB SSD.
The PS5 Pro will keep the same 1TB SSD as the Slim, while upgrading the internals.
In one, the cost increase is hinged on the SSD. In the other, the cost increase is based on updated RAM (which probably costs the same as on the base console) and the more powerful SoC.
Of course a 2TB PS5 Pro would cost more than the 2TB Series X.
It is very unlikely that up to 30% of PS5 owners have upgraded their PS5 storage, and I fail to see what user upgraded storage has to do with the launch price of the PS5 Pro. You’ve hamstrung yourself in this discussion by imagining a 2TB Pro console that isn’t happening.
If they sell it at $700, most people won’t buy it. It’s as simple as that.
They seized on their modular design to hike prices for the digital slim, but the disc models are still the bigger sellers and that model got zero price increase.
In fact, most of the Slim’s launch window had the console sold either discounted, or bundled with Spiderman 2 or Call of Duty.
Loxus
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That's a huge drop off in clocks.
Digital Foundry states the PS5 Pro GPU clocks are 2.35 GHz.
MisterXDTV
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What difference does it make if the detachable drive is pre-installed or not?
The drive is $100 anyway. They won't discount it with a bundle
The drive is $100 anyway. They won't discount it with a bundle
Draugoth
Gold Member
Not needing to buy the console again if you want disk games
Mibu no ookami
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Global inflation is the highest it has been in over 30 years... The United States out of all industrialized nations has handled inflation the best and we still see significant price increases.
The idea that this wasn't going to impact gaming is mindless.
They didn't know Wukong would be a significant hit and they didn't know helldivers 2 would be a significant hit. They also didn't know how well College Football 2025 would do. They also didn't know Concord would be a flop.
That's why it is called a forecast. Their forecast was based on how many base PS5s they thought they would sell and how many PS5 Pros.
The idea that only 1 million pros would sell in the 4 months it will be on the market within this forecast is hilarious. 250k per month across the globe?
What are you going to say when the PS5 Pro is announced with 2GB of storage?
Do you think the upgraded internals have the equivalent cost to an extra gig of storage?
And that's what we're going to see.
You factor in the user upgraded cost and build that into the base price. It's pretty simple. The type of people who are going to buy a PS5 Pro are EXACTLY the people who are likely to buy more storage. Rather than eschew those revenue to other companies, they'll capture that revenue for themselves.
You've hamstrung yourself in denying that it's likely to have 2TB despite the devkit having 2TB. Can you explain why they would increase the size of the storage on the devkit but not the retail model?
We've seen a massive increase in sales ratio towards the digital since the slim was released. The key here is that people thought it wasn't going to happen. In fact people thought there would be a price decrease.
SaturnSaturn
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wonder how much this will be priced in my country, the slim goes for 650~660 usd here now. probably 800-900 over here.
Audiophile
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Needs some shark plates to go with those gills.
Punished Miku
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People have tried to warn about digital growing. We all knew in advance they were working on a detachable disc drive. If it's not all digital this system, it will likely be soon enough. They're definitely going to want to nudge you in that direction.
Look at the current price PS5 Slim disc and DE and the separate disc drive....the disc version is basically a DE disc drive bundle.
Yeah, they already released a console with it. This is nothing new.
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Draugoth
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Very likely $599.99 MSRP
Physical Media will be sadly dead within a couple years unless production becomes extremely profitable.
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Mr.Phoenix
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Still in the $499-$599 range. And this whole raised prices in japan, why are we not mentioning the fact that that was because of the yen to the dollar issues they have been having this year. Dollar-wise, the cost of the PS5 in Japan is still technically... the same.
No. Its like people forget that the base PS5 is and already costs as low as $399. A PS5 without a disc drive costs $449 on Amazon, Best Buy and PS Direct. And that price usually drops to $399 for promotional pricing (which has happened twice this year already).
It makes no sense to assume that a PS5pro, will cost $200 more than a PS5. Especially not when considering what its actual upgrades are. Eg... you keep saying bigger SOC costs... this is not like Sony is spending some fresh new $150 on an APU. And so we just tack $150 on top of the current BOM of the PS5. No. Instead, sony is likely already spending $70 on their APU "budget" and the PS5pro APU would just cost them like $50-$60 more.
The same thing goes for RAM... if you look at material costs... you will quickly find that a PS5pro can't possibly be $200-$250 more expensive than the base PS5.
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Senua
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reinking
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Isn't it $80 US?
Punished Miku
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I think hoping for a detachable drive is the best case scenario. Hopefully they keep it as a side option for people really wanting that. But more and more games will drop it, and it'll be more of a boutique premium thing, which is profitable.
Audiophile
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splattered
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Wtf are Sony doing? PS4 Pro was a niche product and a LOT of people didn't upgrade over the PS4... people already don't like the look of the current PS5 console. If they had designed it to be more visually appealing this thing would have had a chance of selling WAY better than it's going to. Yeah it'll be powerful but people already have one ugly PS console in their house. They must be betting that games like GTA VI are going to help push sales for this thing.
nial
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The thing is that $499 is not likely, I already explained why.
It doesn't really matter, they will not be doing ANY price cuts in Western regions when their second largest market is seeing a price increase next month. There's zero reason for them to do so.
Skifi28
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I don't think people care nearly as much as you think about visual appeal when buying consoles. If they don't like the design, they'll just shrug and buy it anyway.
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Justin9mm
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It's going to be different this time. There aren't supply shortages and everyone with a PS5 is not all of a sudden going to upgrade to a Pro.
kazuyamishima
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More than 60m. units have been sold with an “ugly” design. The only thing preventing the system doing better numbers is price, nothing more nothing less.
demigod
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Put the crack pipe down. Your prices are absurd. 0 chance this happens. 0 chance it comes with 2TB.
dorkimoe
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This. I’m not buying an attachment to use discs. Would be pretty stupid for a company that publishes 4k movies to not have a disc drive
Mibu no ookami
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Please explain why the devkit is 2TB. Why do you think Sony would make a 2TB configuration of their SSD, JUST for devkits.
finalflame
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I'm team $699 / $749 w/ 2TB.
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demigod
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For development. What PC game needs 2TB?
simpatico
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Black Ops 6 install size is 431GB
Judge Magister
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For being compatible with Slim covers, just needs to be a little taller to accommodate the 4 stripes...
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Mibu no ookami
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This would not make sense unless you're loading multiple builds of the same game onto the same devkit and I'm talking about MULTIPLE.
For development, you would likely need LESS space than what you would need in retail as you're likely only working on a handful of games at most at a time and the studios who are big enough to work on multiple games are getting multiple devkits.
And then there is still the option of external storage, which would be cheaper for Sony and pass the cost on to developers.
It just doesn't add up.
sloppyjoe_gamer
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Still don't understand a need for this.....have we seen that many PS5 games that push the current hardware to it's limits? I don't think we have. Will there be some benefit to having a Pro to making current PS5 games run or play better? I was all in on getting a PS4 Pro after having a PS4 and looking back, i can't really see the benefit of me doing so back in the day other than just saying i had the "latest and greatest"
Mibu no ookami
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Games are going to start topping off at 30fps on base consoles. Just look at Metal Gear Delta and to a degree Wukong.