Little Chicken
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They're relying too much on very well-trodden ground and it isn't exciting.
Bloomberg: Sales at Bungie were running 45% below projections for year
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ByWatterson
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You are speaking with the same clarity I felt when leaving after Beyond Light. The monetization of FOMO (combined with NO support for PVP) became too much.
Halo Infinite does it so well - season passes that pay for themselves AND that NEVER expire, cool, free events, new maps and modes all free, and a cosmetic store that isn't necessary to use unless you're a huge fan.
Seriously, Halo is everything I wish Destiny was. Supported, fair, and essentially NO FOMO.
Little Chicken
Member
MS and Sony should allow Bungie to develop a multiplat Halo game with f2p MP.
DForce
NaughtyDog Defense Force
I remember when we pointed out that Xbox lacked first party games for YEARS and the response we got was, "Who cares about exclusives? It's about multiplat titles."
balls of snow
Member
I dipped out after Forsaken dlc which was Bungie firing on all cylinders. Now I cant even replay it because subpar content took its place. Never going to go back now.
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[Sigma]
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This is ultimately why I haven't played. I've said several times on here I believe that I may as well become a destiny player since Battlefield has let me down and im not playing any other multiplayer shooters and im now having that itch to play them. But as a soon as I looked into the store everything looked daunting so I closed it out and never entertained it again.
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Ogbert
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I absolutely love Destiny to bits. Alongside WoW, it's given me such good times.
But the game is so tired these days. Recycling the same shit content and events. They pour all their focus into expansions, in terms of the campaign, but then fall back on the same tired stuff for the rest of the season.
Game needs a total change in direction.
But the game is so tired these days. Recycling the same shit content and events. They pour all their focus into expansions, in terms of the campaign, but then fall back on the same tired stuff for the rest of the season.
Game needs a total change in direction.
Dr. Wilkinson
Member
Well they're still milking the same game over and over again. Who still has time for Destiny 2? There's so many great games coming out, why stick with D2?
Maybe they should make something new. And this time maybe make it single-player and I might even buy it for $70.
Maybe they should make something new. And this time maybe make it single-player and I might even buy it for $70.
ChorizoPicozo
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Thirty7ven
Banned
I'm glad you left all pretense of being anything other than a smooth brain behind you. You made a meal out of that?
Your speculation sounds like hopium but that's more of the same.
elcapitano
Member
Time to release Factions. Naughty Dog have done more for Sony than Bungie will ever do.
Bungie should never have a say on any of the big Sony Studios games anyway.
If they don't want to release Factions as its own game at least bundle it into the Part 2 remaster and PC release.
P:axMagellanic
Member
It's -45% after they monetized the absolute tits off the game as well.
Bungie are absolute cunts, couldn't have been more deserved.
Bungie are absolute cunts, couldn't have been more deserved.
Thirty7ven
Banned
In my mind it was ten years old but that's around the time Destiny 1 came out.
ChorizoPicozo
Member
Bungie is getting a reality check. 45% below expectations and basically a 1-year delay?
I wondered how Sony and ND are taking this news from the supposed experts on GaaS.
I would be pretty fucking pissed. This shitstorm is just beginning.
I wondered how Sony and ND are taking this news from the supposed experts on GaaS.
I would be pretty fucking pissed. This shitstorm is just beginning.
Thirty7ven
Banned
Naughty Dog can't come out with a Gaas Last of Us that will be supported for years, this is the problem. Unless they turned their whole studio into gaas dev?
Elder Legend
Banned
But earlier you said Destiny 2 is 10 years old. Are you going to make up your fucking mind ?
Elder Legend
Banned
I think Sony moving forward is in a world of hurt along with their studios. It's going to be rough times which is sad because I wanted too see what ND is cooking up.
Muffdraul
Member
Sorry, Bungie. I've been a fan since I played Marathon 1 in 1995, but you can suck my dick with your MMO Destiny shit. I decided a long time ago, you're not getting any more of my money until you give me another good solo campaign I can sink my teeth into, like you always used to.
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Interfectum
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These clowns are telling ND how it's done and they can't even keep their own house clean?
BadBurger
Many “Whelps”! Handle It!
Layoffs are always unfortunate, but I wish the lead designers of Destiny 2 could be replaced. So many aspects of the game and the way they do business feels anti-consumer, or just plain dumb. Example: they design a game explicitly meant to be a social experience in many respects, and yet after years of being in service it still lacks some basic social tools to connect players for much of the content. They instead encourage people to use third party websites and Discord. Like, I don't want to live the Destiny lifestyle or some shit just to enjoy the game. I want to sit on my couch, fire up the game, and play with others for a half hour or so. Not fire up the game, get my laptop ready to browse to some site, have Discord running on my iPad, and spend a half hour just trying to find people to play with.
Men_in_Boxes
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James Sawyer Ford
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ShadyAcshuns
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FF:Enhanced_Reality
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I said at the time that acquiring Bungie felt like a knee jerk reaction to Bethesda. Even so, Destiny was clearly on a decline. I can't say I ever fancied it but none of my friends who used to play it so do anymore. Looking at my friends list on PlayStation so few people even have trophies for Destiny or Destiny 2.
That being said they're still independent within PlayStation.
Though maybe people will finally start asking questions.
Naughty Dog project allegedly on ice. Many laid off there. Bungie on layoffs. Connie Booth and her team gone.
I wonder when more people will think Jim Ryan has been given marching orders.
That being said they're still independent within PlayStation.
Though maybe people will finally start asking questions.
Naughty Dog project allegedly on ice. Many laid off there. Bungie on layoffs. Connie Booth and her team gone.
I wonder when more people will think Jim Ryan has been given marching orders.
Unknown Soldier
Member
The biggest problem is how apparently the wokeness at Bungie spread like a mind virus and infected the rest of Playstation Studios in the West. Hopefully they'll cull the wokes with this round of layoffs and try to reduce the spread of the virus. I know Japan doesn't give a fuck about wokeness, so if the actual Japanese execs regain control of Playstation they can probably right the culture of Sony Interactive Entertainment pretty quickly.
ChorizoPicozo
Member
Play station was already infected
LaughingStock
Member
I love Destiny. But you know what? LET IT BURN
Dynasty8
Member
Destiny's story has been on a roller coaster because of this mind virus. Lightfall's narrative was driven by that bullshit too.
You can thank narrative lead Robert Brookes who insists on forcing many of the game's characters as gay, trans and cringe. It's pretty clear what's changed since he was brought into the position of lead. The tone of interesting mystery has dissipated in exchange for childish marvel/fortnite humor. Lightfall's Nimbus is the worst character I've ever seen in any video game.
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
Bungie hoodwinked Sony for $3.6 billion.
No doubt both parties looked over numbers, came to an agreement on a price and everything is rosy.
Woops. Looks like Bungie overestimated juicy projections and Sony fell for it. Makes no sense how a gaming company can miss by 45%.
Sony should had offered $1.6 billion.
No doubt both parties looked over numbers, came to an agreement on a price and everything is rosy.
Woops. Looks like Bungie overestimated juicy projections and Sony fell for it. Makes no sense how a gaming company can miss by 45%.
Sony should had offered $1.6 billion.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Oddvintagechap
Banned
I don't like Destiny at all.
Give me Marathon and anything else.
Give me Marathon and anything else.
Mibu no ookami
Demoted Member® Pro™
I love the faux surprise.
Destiny Light Fall has a 69 on metacritic with a user review average of 2.9...
Why would anyone be surprised that sales were half of what was expected?
This compared to Witch Queen last year which had a metacritic of 85 and a user review of 8.0.
Destiny Light Fall has a 69 on metacritic with a user review average of 2.9...
Why would anyone be surprised that sales were half of what was expected?
This compared to Witch Queen last year which had a metacritic of 85 and a user review of 8.0.
Tiago Rodrigues
Member
Destiny isn't doing that bad.
ChorizoPicozo
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ChorizoPicozo
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the surprise is that maybe the hardcore fans are finally moving on and the game is so old that they are not getting new users.
catastrophic.
I've tried to get into Destiny multiple times. The thing that kills it for me is that the navigation for new players is atrocious. I can't figure out what I'm supposed to do or where I'm supposed to go most of the time, making it hard to get into, I just give up before getting too far.
Neolombax
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They have nobody to blame but themselves for weak sales. After the Witch Queen expansion, I was so ready for Lightfall. But ever since the Lightfall reveal up to playing the actual expansion, it has been nothing but disappointment. Story content was absolutely weak and confusing, the recycled weapons were uninspiring, the big expansion raid was a letdown. So far 1 new PVP map, and only 1 new strike. Rumors were that Lightfall was supposed to be the last expansion, but instead they stretched it and content was redistributed to include another expansion The Final Shape. And the latest Final Shape showcase was not exciting at all. There was nothing shown that made me want to drop a pre-order.
Shubh_C63
Member
I don't know how people got the impression Bungie isn't the Top talented studio in the world, yes even including Destiny.
LIGHTFALL despite being bad is still pulling around the same numbers it did for previous seasons. That's a fact.
You don't need micro transactions for ANYTHING except emotes/skins. And things gets confusing whenever you don't follow Bungie's prime payment plan of people buying Annual pass, which is priced really well if you ONLY play Destiny.
It's reaping benefits of their labor time at Bungie, and LIGHTFALL was absolutely that. Cash grab. Their projection were clearly WAY TOO HIGH to have missed 45% given their own known quality of LF expansion.
Bungie is literally amongst the Top 5 company (might even be Rank#2) who was able to sustain GaaS model. Buying them was a no brainer for Sony.
LIGHTFALL despite being bad is still pulling around the same numbers it did for previous seasons. That's a fact.
You don't need micro transactions for ANYTHING except emotes/skins. And things gets confusing whenever you don't follow Bungie's prime payment plan of people buying Annual pass, which is priced really well if you ONLY play Destiny.
It's reaping benefits of their labor time at Bungie, and LIGHTFALL was absolutely that. Cash grab. Their projection were clearly WAY TOO HIGH to have missed 45% given their own known quality of LF expansion.
Bungie is literally amongst the Top 5 company (might even be Rank#2) who was able to sustain GaaS model. Buying them was a no brainer for Sony.
FeastYoEyes
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I know a couple people who play Destiny 2 still and they do not like it. It sounds like a full time job and there's no joy left in it for them.