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BakedPigeon
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Wow.
Kinda looking forward to that fight too... whatever buys him time to get his shit together I guess.
Kinda looking forward to that fight too... whatever buys him time to get his shit together I guess.
Well... now we can expect a mega fight at the end of the year with Cotto vs. Pacquiao.
The truth is... I heard sales for the Mayweather fight were LOOOOOOWW, extremely low. Hell even Tecate wasn't advertising in it. So they delayed it to create hype and see when people will buy it.
Cotto vs. Pacquiao... I gotta say the Pacman will win though I go for my man Cotto =P.
The truth is... I heard sales for the Mayweather fight were LOOOOOOWW, extremely low. Hell even Tecate wasn't advertising in it. So they delayed it to create hype and see when people will buy it.
Cotto vs. Pacquiao... I gotta say the Pacman will win though I go for my man Cotto =P.
Cotto-Clottey press conference
http://www.ringtv.com/video/cottoclottey_press_conference_part_1/
Bob Arum style. "Are you an idiot?" :lol
http://www.ringtv.com/video/cottoclottey_press_conference_part_1/
Bob Arum style. "Are you an idiot?" :lol
Harsh! :lol Lots of unkind words for Mayweather, too. I hope his continued taunting doesn't make fights between Floyd and Top Rank fighters harder to put together. Golden Boy is there to act as a mediator and the money they can make together will make them look past certain things, but the bad blood can't make negotiations easier.Quazar said:
Re: Mosley, I think he's going go to be left out in the cold -- this, despite a strong case as being the best welterweight. FMJ-JMM will stay together for a later date and Pacquiao-Cotto will be towards the year's end. I imagine if he's going to get in another fight this year at 147, Mosley will have to look at Berto or even Paul Williams. (Clottey deserves a shot, but has the recent loss attached to him and it sounded like Arum accepts that Clottey will have too tough a time vs. Mosley.)
Saturday I was watching a stream of the UK/Setanta+Top Rank broadcast so I could see Calderon's fight. (Okay while it lasted, but a disappointing performance from him.) I only saw HBO's call of the main event just last night and was WOW at Lampley's cheerleading.
Lampley: "Good tackle by Cotto! Clottey went at him, went up onto Cotto's shoulder, and Miguel just put him down."
He was also a little beligerent, biting a bit at Steward when he suggested that Clottey was up in the fight. Almost like, 'Oh, yeah? Well, Harold Lederman has it scored for Cotto'.
Official scorecard:
Lampley: "Good tackle by Cotto! Clottey went at him, went up onto Cotto's shoulder, and Miguel just put him down."
He was also a little beligerent, biting a bit at Steward when he suggested that Clottey was up in the fight. Almost like, 'Oh, yeah? Well, Harold Lederman has it scored for Cotto'.
Official scorecard:
BakedPigeon
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I think pacman will do quick work on cotto and it will be over fast.....
No way I am buying that fight.
No way I am buying that fight.
Vestal
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Relix said:
Cottos defense is pretty good.. It appeared bad on Saturday because of the huge gash over his left eye..
Again size and strength will be the determining factor.. If this fight is at or about 144 Cotto wins handily.
Not to mention he doesn't have the CRAPPIEST boxing fundamentals like Hatton had, which allowed Pac totally murder Hatton.
Alex Anderson
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Friday Night Fights is on ESPN Classic if anyone was looking for it on the deuce... college baseball game was in the 4th inning.
Also, a reminder about the Klitschko v. Chagaev match for those in the US. Starts at 5 PM ET Saturday in the US on ESPN Classic according to my DirecTV guide.
Also, a reminder about the Klitschko v. Chagaev match for those in the US. Starts at 5 PM ET Saturday in the US on ESPN Classic according to my DirecTV guide.
I don't like how the Pacman camp is trying to set up the Cotto/Pac fight.
70-30 and a catchweight WITH the title on the line? FUCK THAT. If Manny wants the title on the line then he should settle at welterweight, instead of this catchweight nonsense.
If Cotto has to fight at 144 while putting his title on the line with just a 30% of pay, then he should not accept the fight. It's not like Cotto desperately needs the money.
Apparently Freddy doesn't want Pacman to fight at 147. Fuck him if that's true then!
70-30 and a catchweight WITH the title on the line? FUCK THAT. If Manny wants the title on the line then he should settle at welterweight, instead of this catchweight nonsense.
If Cotto has to fight at 144 while putting his title on the line with just a 30% of pay, then he should not accept the fight. It's not like Cotto desperately needs the money.
Apparently Freddy doesn't want Pacman to fight at 147. Fuck him if that's true then!
BamYouHaveAids
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Jean Pascal just won the WBC light heavyweight title. Great fight, he looked like a more active Chad Dawson. Would love to see a fight between these two, but I doubt that will happen anytime soon.
BakedPigeon
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Im confused is this a live fight or is this a classic? I dont follow klitch so I dont know.
In Germany:
Arthur Abraham vs Mahir Oral (with a crazy tatoo) for Abraham's IBF world middleweight title
Sebastian Sylvester vs Lajuan Simon for Sylvester's IBF international middleweight title
Showtime's showing Abraham's fight on tape delay. The German tv station is streaming it here, but I'm not sure if the live stream is region-free. It starts in half an hour, I think? (22:25 there)
His promoters, Sauerland Event, insist this is his last fight at middle because of the continued problems making weight so no Pavlik-Abraham to unify 160, it seems.
Chris John pulled out of the Juarez rematch. Juarez was offered a fight vs. a lefty replacement and rejected it, so now HBO's BAD is just the one fight, Ortiz-Maidana for the interim WBA world light welterweight title. Interim is supposed to be the mandatory to the "regular" champion, the winner of Kotelnik-Khan next month.
Top Rank's Latin Fury PPV in NJ is okay with competitive fights on the undercard, but the big draws, Juanma Lopez and Jorge Arce, are in there with unproven guys that have nice records.
Arthur Abraham vs Mahir Oral (with a crazy tatoo) for Abraham's IBF world middleweight title
Sebastian Sylvester vs Lajuan Simon for Sylvester's IBF international middleweight title
Showtime's showing Abraham's fight on tape delay. The German tv station is streaming it here, but I'm not sure if the live stream is region-free. It starts in half an hour, I think? (22:25 there)
His promoters, Sauerland Event, insist this is his last fight at middle because of the continued problems making weight so no Pavlik-Abraham to unify 160, it seems.
Chris John pulled out of the Juarez rematch. Juarez was offered a fight vs. a lefty replacement and rejected it, so now HBO's BAD is just the one fight, Ortiz-Maidana for the interim WBA world light welterweight title. Interim is supposed to be the mandatory to the "regular" champion, the winner of Kotelnik-Khan next month.
Top Rank's Latin Fury PPV in NJ is okay with competitive fights on the undercard, but the big draws, Juanma Lopez and Jorge Arce, are in there with unproven guys that have nice records.
BakedPigeon
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Isnt that on PPV?
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BigKaboom2
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What a letdown after all that insanity. :lol
BigKaboom2
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^ Whoops, you must be on a delay or something. Ended about 15 minutes ago, sorry for unintentional pseudo-spoilers.
Kingpen said:
I agree. That's why I think Cintron is about right. It's a good chance for Maidana to establish himself in the US if he's got the skills. Cintron is a bit weak, but still has enough cred to help the career of the guy who beats him. Cintron's suspicious losses to Margarito could be forgotten with a few more fights like his last one. Both have something to gain out of it.
I believe
in Victor Ortiz. 
His post-fight interview was so well-delivered and honest, but I think he really tipped his hand as far as his willingness to take punishment. He pretty much said that if you take him to deep waters, he'll turn around and head for shore rather than risk drowning.
The ref was being kind when he took words out of Ortiz's mouth and brought Ortiz to the corner to put the stoppage on himself and the doctor. But afterwards, Ortiz let people know he reached his limit.
It's refreshing that he openly acknowledges the long-term effects of boxing and the consequences of his decisions in the ring, but man... he was going to be the next El Feroz.
Also, Maidana was not what I expected. In his last fight against Kotelnik (the only one I've seen of his) he seemed hesitant to commit, content to poke around and wing a few punches. Maybe it was the early success of his right hand or the knockdown he scored immediately after he was put down, but last night he was aggressive and really up for the exchanges. He went after the back of Ortiz's head more than I cared to see, but some of that was down to Ortiz's dipping forward.
Abraham's fight was standard for him (slow start until first knockdown), but he looked more helpless than usual vs. the jab and was countered and knocked off his base by Oral quite a bit. Oral had lost all confidence in round five or six but the fight was extended because Abraham needed breaks in the action and couldn't maintain pressure. Also the ref seemed reluctant to stop the contest. (He was counting even after the third knockdown in the tenth round, the fifth time Oral was down.)
I think if Abraham took on Sturm right now @ 160, he'd get decisioned. But he's going to 168 and the talent level at super middle continues to improve and middleweight loses its biggest possible fight.
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His post-fight interview was so well-delivered and honest, but I think he really tipped his hand as far as his willingness to take punishment. He pretty much said that if you take him to deep waters, he'll turn around and head for shore rather than risk drowning.
The ref was being kind when he took words out of Ortiz's mouth and brought Ortiz to the corner to put the stoppage on himself and the doctor. But afterwards, Ortiz let people know he reached his limit.
It's refreshing that he openly acknowledges the long-term effects of boxing and the consequences of his decisions in the ring, but man... he was going to be the next El Feroz.
Also, Maidana was not what I expected. In his last fight against Kotelnik (the only one I've seen of his) he seemed hesitant to commit, content to poke around and wing a few punches. Maybe it was the early success of his right hand or the knockdown he scored immediately after he was put down, but last night he was aggressive and really up for the exchanges. He went after the back of Ortiz's head more than I cared to see, but some of that was down to Ortiz's dipping forward.
Abraham's fight was standard for him (slow start until first knockdown), but he looked more helpless than usual vs. the jab and was countered and knocked off his base by Oral quite a bit. Oral had lost all confidence in round five or six but the fight was extended because Abraham needed breaks in the action and couldn't maintain pressure. Also the ref seemed reluctant to stop the contest. (He was counting even after the third knockdown in the tenth round, the fifth time Oral was down.)
I think if Abraham took on Sturm right now @ 160, he'd get decisioned. But he's going to 168 and the talent level at super middle continues to improve and middleweight loses its biggest possible fight.
Maidana-Ortiz was an awesome fight. Hat goes off to both of them. I'd love a rematch personally.
I agree on Abrahams fight being a typical Abraham fight. Pavlik just needs to fight him. But I wouldn't have any problems seeing him move up at all.
Oh yea Jacobs looked very good on Friday. He's ready for a step-up.
I agree on Abrahams fight being a typical Abraham fight. Pavlik just needs to fight him. But I wouldn't have any problems seeing him move up at all.
Oh yea Jacobs looked very good on Friday. He's ready for a step-up.
BigKaboom2
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I agree, looked like they had never had a boxing match before in their lives.theBishop said:
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