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Bravely Default |OT| A better Final Fantasy than Final Fantasy
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Seems like the problem is you, i had a blast with it, liked the charaters, the story is by no means "shit" it's actually more complex than the majority of jrpgs, chapters 5-8 are indeed troublesome but it was worth it in the end.
MagiusNecros
Gilgamesh Fan Annoyance
Pretty sure Revo will compose for B2.
Yeah, probably the hardest boss fight in the entire game aside from the one in the bonus dungeon. Had to start the fight over once or twice even with my lvl 99 group who has mastered everything. Just hit hard and get rid of Praline and Qada ASAP, everything else became trivial afterwards.
toastyToast
Member
Shame I never leave my 3DS games until I'm done with them. That's pretty cool
Lord Ghirahim
Member
I think it didn't work because I hadn't saved the Japanese game after activating Send. It's working now.
Do you default until after its big attack? Don't start attacking when it drops the shield, default one more time until after the blast. Also probably worth doing some defensive buffs before the shield drops.
If you're doing that already and getting wiped out even when defaulting you might be under levelled.
Chrono Helix
Member
Mwahaha, managed to find a setup that beats the New Year's nemesis pretty easily.
Someone had Slow World, which was screwing him out of half his turns, and if he did Before Swine it was basically two free turns for me. Not to mention I had someone spamming My Hero MimicX3. Meanwhile I had Tiz and Edea using the Monk's Pressure Point to bypass his insane defence, and they had Utsumemi, Comeback Kid and Turn Tables to benefit from his counterattack. The other two characters had Angelic Ward and Damage Dispersion so his physical attacks didn't hurt so much.
The problem is the Blood Suck attack, it takes away half of my HP. I didn't think of another round of defaulting, I'll try that the next time I play.
kuroneko0509
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Hero of Canton
Member
I've not been able to take on any Nemeses after the first couple. Every time I try to update data or add friends I get an unspecified error message and am told to try again later. Wondering if I should delete the game and redownload it (while keeping my save data, obv). Anyone else had similar troubles?
Maybe you have the problem that I had. Read the OP.
They're not at all necessary (completed the game without ever thinking about them after the mechanic was introduced) and unintrusive - don't sweat it.
I figured they weren't needed but it just rubs me the wrong way.
On the plus side - the game seems amazingly polished and charming.
Hero of Canton
Member
Thanks very much for the advice. Not sure I can be bothered with the effort to delete all friends and re-add them for the sake of a few bosses, but I love the battle system so much you never know. Cheers, anyway.
Chrono Helix
Member
How's that work?
Lord Ghirahim
Member
kuroneko0509
Member
2x Valk/Time Mage, Valk/Templar, Valk/Merchant
Specific Setup (2x Valk/Time Mage with Steady MP Recover, Valk/Merchant with World Haste)
General Setup (Ability/Equip that raise speed & make sure Valk/Merchant is the fastest, Can put either Save Magic MP or Pierce M.Defense on the Valk/Time Mage, Kouli did put Auto-Phoenix on Valk/Templar probably as for safety measure)
1st turn (2x Valk/Time Mage use reraise on self, Valk/Merchant use Low Leverage, Valk/Templar use Rampant)
Other turn (Meteo & High Jump, Low Leverage & High Jump, Rampant & High Jump)
General Setup (Ability/Equip that raise speed & make sure Valk/Merchant is the fastest, Can put either Save Magic MP or Pierce M.Defense on the Valk/Time Mage, Kouli did put Auto-Phoenix on Valk/Templar probably as for safety measure)
1st turn (2x Valk/Time Mage use reraise on self, Valk/Merchant use Low Leverage, Valk/Templar use Rampant)
Other turn (Meteo & High Jump, Low Leverage & High Jump, Rampant & High Jump)
or just can watch here lol http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1rIYWggLQ3I
Chrono Helix
Member
Watching them just leap into the air one by one is an awe-inspiring sight.
bequietdrive
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Got this a few days ago, have found it impossible to put down. It's an unforgiving, but fair game - saving at savepoints doesn't heal you ala tales,ff etc. The third and fourth bosses made me have to releave the dungeon, re buy all my potions and then come back - and I love it!
Great combat, charming visuals and a steep difficulty curve that doesn't patronise you. Everything just feels so streamlined and right. There's no aimless wandering around, there's direction and always a clear sense of what to do. Can't wait to see what else this wonderous game has to offer.
Great combat, charming visuals and a steep difficulty curve that doesn't patronise you. Everything just feels so streamlined and right. There's no aimless wandering around, there's direction and always a clear sense of what to do. Can't wait to see what else this wonderous game has to offer.
Beat the annoying boss I had trouble with in chapter 3. Took him down on my 7th try, lol. It had less to do with my level and more to do with my party setup. Still barely survived. Edea missed out on all the exp/BP. 
Going to try to take down the boss for the new sub quest that oponed up.
Going to try to take down the boss for the new sub quest that oponed up.
Also at the start of Ch4 and I think I need a short break from the game.
I didn't really like Ch3.
It just felt like dungeon after dungeon after dungeon with less interesting stuff than the previous chapters. And in terms of the story just strolling into the Swordbearers HQ seemed quite silly to me, simply walking into the stronghold of your enemy. The voice acting, Tiz in particular, is really starting to get on my nerves too tbh.
I seem to recall I needed a breather after chapter 3, too.
It's a shame really - if not for the rather basic approach taken to story set-pieces and dungeon design that bit could've been this game's assault on Shinra Tower.
blu
Wants the largest console games publisher to avoid Nintendo's platforms.
I also had a bit of a weardown during ch 3, and taking a break surely helps. Just keep in mind ch 4 is hands-down better than ch 3, even on an entirely different plane if you do the sidequest.
On a different note: how the heck do I break the 10K damage barrier?
Elaugaufein
Member
This requires a bit of setup and doesn't work on Undead, it's also not doable as written until Chapter 6 , but a less efficient version is doable from Chapter 5
(use 2 Rages instead of 3, it should still be more than enough to kill anything that's not Undead, you'll face in Chapter 5 except maybe the Dragons, and you'll need to reduce the Darkness Resistance of Lord DeRoss, Jabberwocky and Alternis by making them Dark Weak).
The gist of it is that you use the Dark Knight class (needs to be mastered or Abilinked at 14), equip a Blood Blade and Brave Suit, set BP Limit Up (Templar), BP Recovery (Red Mage) and either Two-handed (Knight) or Dual Wield (Ninja) (use Mutsu-no-Kami in the offhand). You can fill out the rest of the slots as you like but focus on Speed and Damage increases (like Herme's Shoes, Red Cap, Sword Magic Amp etc). This can be done from Chapter 6 for 1 person (you can steal 2 more Brave Suits and 2 more Blood Blades in Chapter 7 using Rob Blind).
You also need a Spirit Master, doesn't really matter what they have but its preferable if they are fast and someone with Hasten World (can be the Spirit master or someone else but not the Dark Knight).
In turn 1 -> Spiritmaster uses Stillness, Dark Knight uses Blood Blade (to cast Drain)
turn 2 -> Dark Knight uses Life or Death (maxes out Atk/Def/Magic/MDef/Speed and gives 2 BP)
turn 3 -> Dark Knight Braves x3 , uses Rage , Life or Death (for 2 more BP), Rage, Rage.
Note that you can't use Fairy Ward with this setup since it stops the Doom status and thus the BP recovery, so if you need to defend against an enemy status you need to use Inoculate (Blind, Charm, Sleep, Paralyze, Dread and Stop can all mess this up).
If you can buff the Dark Knight with things like Pay to Play, Quick, Fairy's Aid and debuff the enemy Dark Weak / lowering the enemies P.Def , those all help too.
The gist of it is that you use the Dark Knight class (needs to be mastered or Abilinked at 14), equip a Blood Blade and Brave Suit, set BP Limit Up (Templar), BP Recovery (Red Mage) and either Two-handed (Knight) or Dual Wield (Ninja) (use Mutsu-no-Kami in the offhand). You can fill out the rest of the slots as you like but focus on Speed and Damage increases (like Herme's Shoes, Red Cap, Sword Magic Amp etc). This can be done from Chapter 6 for 1 person (you can steal 2 more Brave Suits and 2 more Blood Blades in Chapter 7 using Rob Blind).
You also need a Spirit Master, doesn't really matter what they have but its preferable if they are fast and someone with Hasten World (can be the Spirit master or someone else but not the Dark Knight).
In turn 1 -> Spiritmaster uses Stillness, Dark Knight uses Blood Blade (to cast Drain)
turn 2 -> Dark Knight uses Life or Death (maxes out Atk/Def/Magic/MDef/Speed and gives 2 BP)
turn 3 -> Dark Knight Braves x3 , uses Rage , Life or Death (for 2 more BP), Rage, Rage.
Note that you can't use Fairy Ward with this setup since it stops the Doom status and thus the BP recovery, so if you need to defend against an enemy status you need to use Inoculate (Blind, Charm, Sleep, Paralyze, Dread and Stop can all mess this up).
If you can buff the Dark Knight with things like Pay to Play, Quick, Fairy's Aid and debuff the enemy Dark Weak / lowering the enemies P.Def , those all help too.
chapter 5 onwards...
Not enjoying playing through the same bosses/ sidequests again and again in this game no matter how much fun the battle system is and I think it is great! The jobs and abilities are fantastic and keep the game interesting but It just seems like they made the game artificially longer. I probably wouldn't have bothered too much if they had thrown something new in each chapter. I just began my third go at all the bosses (chapter 6?) and repeating the content is starting to wear thin...
Elaugaufein
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Some bosses do gain new Abilities in Chapter 6, but it's easily missable since it's pretty subtle (Ominas uses Thunder to hit the entire party, Heinkel can use Shield Charge, etc) and the the Venus sisters all fight you together as party of the Conjurer Side Quest. In Chapter 7 all the boss fights are group battles and can be pretty nasty, especially since they have really good stuff to steal.
you could just try the fake ending. It really got me going again to power through to the end.
I don't want to spoil how to get to it, because I think figuring it out is part of the fun...
hint:
do what the npcs outside the party tell you! disobey!
solution (don't read if you want to figure it out by yourself):
when at a crystal, just keep pressing x until it explodes.
This makes it sound more interesting especially chapter 7, sounds a lot better. I just fought Ominas and thought the battle was more difficult than the previous chapter for some reason and his thunder must have been why.
I thought there was something up with that as it allowed you to keep pressing x after Airy said stop. What Elaugaufein said has me interested to keep playing but if I get bored I might try that to see what happens.
Skip to the game - the demo rewards aren't so great that it's worth putting off the real deal.
Can you be more specific? Are you talking about their default clothing?
blu
Wants the largest console games publisher to avoid Nintendo's platforms.
Mmm, default clothing!.. I just spent 800K to get it back.
Darkmakaimura
Can You Imagine What SureAI Is Going To Do With Garfield?
Watching videos of BD, it looks like near perfection when it comes to old school types of JRPGs. Graphics are good and I love the way they did the overworld.
Chrono Helix
Member
My game has a REALLY annoying tendency to hang and boot me to the Home menu in the Belphegor fight.
(Ending spoilerzzz)
Ending was fun other than, luckly I managed to beat the final boss at the first try.
final form was harder. (even at 99 you get oneshotted by some combos on Hard)
Also the secret movie, HOLY SHIT, WHAT KIND OF WIZARDRY WAS THAT.
Man, some things felt so random... like, what's the deal with Airy's sister? Or the Celestial Being/World. I wish the game had spent more time bulding the setting in the last chapters instead of just dicking around. Like the whole deal with the crystals, we know Airy wanted to link them, but we never get a clear answer on what they are or how the whole thing works exactly. They are just kinda... there.
Ending was fun other than, luckly I managed to beat the final boss at the first try.
__Airy__
Also the secret movie, HOLY SHIT, WHAT KIND OF WIZARDRY WAS THAT.