I never got to play 5, after this I might get it to play on the Vita. As for the pattern you note here, I mentioned in my review in the spoiler thread that I would love the next in the series to be a similar love letter to the ps1 era.
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Bravely Default |OT| A better Final Fantasy than Final Fantasy
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I never got to play 5, after this I might get it to play on the Vita. As for the pattern you note here, I mentioned in my review in the spoiler thread that I would love the next in the series to be a similar love letter to the ps1 era.
Elaugaufein
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The thing is there isn't a Job system game in the PS1 era unless they do a love letter to Final Fantasy Tactics. Which I would buy so fast ... The next job system game doesn't come around until FFX-2.
ETA- I guess you could kind of count the Junctioning summons and the abilities they provide as a class system but it doesn't really work since only one character can Junction a summon at a time.
I'd be alright without a job system as long as it was 'proper' set piece style ps1 game - make the 4HoL/BD series a second pass or alternative take on the FF series as a whole, with the next games offering a fresh take on the materia or junction system (OK maybe not the latter), more sophisticated plots and worlds, cutscenes, the works.
Bravely Default plot allusions follow, don't click if you haven't completed it:
the alternative take idea is even fitting given what happens in this game! They could do an alternative FFXIII, but done right this time...
Elaugaufein
Member
I wouldn't mind that, even if I do love the job system games more than is healthy. Though your optimism is off the charts considering I can't even begin to imagine how you do
FFXIII
So, is there something I'm missing with the second dungon and it's Buffing asshole pig men or is that just a close the DS and call it a night deal? It'd be one thing If I could manage thier buffing such that I don't take 100hp per attack but that's nothin' doing right now for obvious reasons.
Karsticles
Member
Question: does the Dark Knight move Rage cause damage to him, or life loss? I am wondering if it works with the Red Mage Revenge ability. A suidicide DPS king sounds lovely.
I had to revisit the inn at the town a few times until i was strong enough to get all the way through. Having some friends to summon is probably helpful too. And make sure you got Blindna.
Elaugaufein
Member
Early on in this game before you get access to the Valkyrie classes Crescent Moon, you have to be very careful when you enter a new area. Try defaulting once or twice, and then have 2 members of your party brave down to -1 BP and attack a single enemy to try and kill them off. Unless you forgot to buy White Magic & equipment upgrades in Caldisia, in which case that might be worth doing.
Rage essentially uses Dark Bane until you run out of HP or until it's been used 5 times. I haven't tested with Revenge but I doubt it. Life or Death does trigger Red Mages BP recovery though.
Yup, that's the final dungeon in the demo.
It has that effect on almost everyone. That and the Guardian which is the next boss fight (though optional) are unusually difficult, things go back to being much more normal afterwards until you start looking at the Castle side quest.
Karsticles
Member
How does Life or Death get you BP? I thought it just killed you.
And does Conservation of Life x4 break the game?
And does Conservation of Life x4 break the game?
Elaugaufein
Member
There's a Red Mage support ability called BP recovery (it gives you 2 BP when you become affected by a Status effect) , Life or Death hits you with Doom.
Elaugaufein
Member
I'm pretty sure you'd have to start a new game. If you're any distance into the game though, it's probably not worth it , the demo stuff is just consumables and some equipment that can all be bought by Chapter 1.
Bah. It's a side story though right?
Not exactly - just a bunch of quests from townsfolk, collect these items, kill this monster etc. No real narrative.
Hmm I probably won't bother with it then. Thanks.
Karsticles
Member
Questions:
Does Hasten World stack on itself?
Does Conservation of Life break the game? Like, does it cost something to autores my entire team just by dying?
Where can I find a list of sword magic?
Does Hasten World stack on itself?
Does Conservation of Life break the game? Like, does it cost something to autores my entire team just by dying?
Where can I find a list of sword magic?
UncleSporky
Member
So I heard there's a plot twist in this game and it's pretty divisive, or something? Some people hate it?
Could someone tell me why it might be disliked, without spoilers?
For example, is it incredibly cliche, does it come completely out of nowhere and appears to make no sense, is it hyped up as a big deal in the story but ends up being a letdown, does it make you hate a character you liked? That sort of thing.
Just wondering.
Could someone tell me why it might be disliked, without spoilers?
For example, is it incredibly cliche, does it come completely out of nowhere and appears to make no sense, is it hyped up as a big deal in the story but ends up being a letdown, does it make you hate a character you liked? That sort of thing.
Just wondering.
Do you like repetition. That's the best way to describe it.
UncleSporky
Member
Oh ok, thanks. I see why that would make some people hate it!
I guess I don't think I will mind whatever it is because the game seems really good anyway.
Exentryk
Member
Hasten World does not stack with itself.
Conservation of Life can only restore you 4 times if all your characters have it. But the passive costs 3 slots, which is too much given the usefulness. One can easily cast Re-Raise on the characters.
Wiki might have something?
kuroneko0509
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as expected... lol
OldGangWarily
Member
Playing through For The Sequel at the moment...so much fun and very challenging. It's going to take a while to finish.
Looking forward to hearing what you all think!
Looking forward to hearing what you all think!
Exentryk
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Was curious, so checked the level 99 stats for all characters:
Tiz - Balanced stats. Use however.
Agnes - Mage material. Highest MP, INT and MND.
Ringabel - Thief/Ninja material. Highest SPD and DEX.
Edea - Attacker material. Highest STR VIT.
Here is my general party setup:
What are your usual setups?
Tiz - Balanced stats. Use however.
Agnes - Mage material. Highest MP, INT and MND.
Ringabel - Thief/Ninja material. Highest SPD and DEX.
Edea - Attacker material. Highest STR VIT.
Here is my general party setup:
Tiz: Red Mage / Time Mage
Agnes: Spiritmaster / White Mage
Ringabel: Thief / Freelancer
Edea: Dark Knight / Vampire (swap Vampire with Performer / Merchant etc as needed)
Agnes: Spiritmaster / White Mage
Ringabel: Thief / Freelancer
Edea: Dark Knight / Vampire (swap Vampire with Performer / Merchant etc as needed)
What are your usual setups?
Nothing too set in stone too as I keep having to readapt with each change. But right now I'm playing with a suicidal setup with Dark Knights. It's more like a Glass Cannon setup that also works with "See you in Hell", but hell
. I can't help but wonder how dumb of a setup it is XD But some of those KO deaths deal such delicious numbers.
it got me through the normal ending
Melhisedek
Member
I changed Tiz from Monk to Spell fencer and dmg went down the drain... This is with most up to date gear available... how come? I'm so overwhelmed by class based games like this 
Exentryk
Member
Use the dark knights for Rage x3 per turn (150k per Dark Knight per turn)
. That's how I use my Edea. I have to default Edea even at 4BP sometimes so I can ensure Ringabel has stolen all the items I changed Tiz from Monk to Spell fencer and dmg went down the drain... This is with most up to date gear available... how come? I'm so overwhelmed by class based games like this
Monk class is known for its high strength, so changing to other classes will definitely see some damage drop. Pirate class is also decent in terms for STR and damage.
Finally beat the game yesterday clocking in at 64 hours. Still have to do
. For the last 2 chapters I was finally worn down into using a cheap glass cannon strategy -
x 2 performer w/ white mage sub (obliterate, epic group cast skills)
x 2 vampire w/ dark knight sub (regen hp/mp and revival skills and +hp rings)
Start battle, rage and x2 minus strikes with each vampire, one more for you x4 on them using the performers allowing them to immediately follow up with another 4 minus strikes each. With level 99 characters this almost guarantees 120k damage over the first two turns (regardless of any buffs/elemental strengths), taking out most enemies (on normal). If I was unlucky enough to be targeted on a vampire they would usually revive automatically or I would cast raise with a turn. This actually got me through the last battle too. Despite the end game fatigue I can't wait for the sequel. Best SE RPG in years
ps. Many thanks to the Abilink gaffers who helped me through!
the bonus dungeon and final side-quests in the last chapter
x 2 performer w/ white mage sub (obliterate, epic group cast skills)
x 2 vampire w/ dark knight sub (regen hp/mp and revival skills and +hp rings)
Start battle, rage and x2 minus strikes with each vampire, one more for you x4 on them using the performers allowing them to immediately follow up with another 4 minus strikes each. With level 99 characters this almost guarantees 120k damage over the first two turns (regardless of any buffs/elemental strengths), taking out most enemies (on normal). If I was unlucky enough to be targeted on a vampire they would usually revive automatically or I would cast raise with a turn. This actually got me through the last battle too. Despite the end game fatigue I can't wait for the sequel. Best SE RPG in years
ps. Many thanks to the Abilink gaffers who helped me through!
Oh now I remembered what was so dumb about how I'm playing it right now. It'd often rob my suicidal char of XP/JXP. Like Edea would deal the fatal blow on upon her death and victory! But no XP/JXP for her XD
And oooh, I haven't maxed out Dark Knight yet, but yeah that said, Dark Knight + Vampire is pretty OP
And oooh, I haven't maxed out Dark Knight yet, but yeah that said, Dark Knight + Vampire is pretty OP
Exentryk
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Where is the special Nemesis? :/
edit: It's up!
Got around to beating this level 99 nemesis. Made a video with the auto strategy -
http://youtu.be/2atBG4qO5tg
Chrono Helix
Member
That was updated on the 27th, wasn't it? The rankings might have shifted by now.
I changed Tiz from Monk to Spell fencer and dmg went down the drain... This is with most up to date gear available... how come? I'm so overwhelmed by class based games like this
Damage mainly comes from how many times you hit, not necessarily from attack strength.
Hits count = max possible hits - hits missed because of low accuracy.
As i noticed the max amount of hit you can deal comes from your job level, something like JobLvl+1 = max hits, so if you change from a lvl10 to a lvl1 job the hit count decreases from from 10-11 to 2-3.
At least thats what i noticed.
Melhisedek
Member
Oh... I see. I thought it had something to do with speed
Elaugaufein
Member
It does. At the same job levels a faster class will have more hits. It's the thing that keeps Natural Talent/Knuckle Lore Freelancers with all jobs mastered from doing as much damage as you'd expect considering their P.Atk is ~twice that of the next best setup.
Napalm_Frank
Member
Oh my god, downloading the game right now and it's going slow as SHIT. I wonder if it's on Nintys end or if there is some settings I needed to look at, I haven't downloaded much of anything before on 3DS.
And are we seriously still using ''blocks''? What's the point :/
And are we seriously still using ''blocks''? What's the point :/
chapters 5-8 are really a test of patience, but it's all worth it in the end.
royox
Member
Wait...they do that....AGAIN????
Just go for the normal ending after chp.6 for some variety.
royox
Member
And then I can complete 7,8,9 and 10?
Yes, you are returned to right before you started the path to the normal ending.
ever saw
the endless 8 from haruhi suzimiya season 2?
I know many players will hate what they did with the 2nd half, but after beating the game and thinking about it for a few days, I get what they were going for. It's really the same with the
endless 8
Karsticles
Member
Thanks. The wiki has nothing, unfortunately. That is wild that Hasten World doesn't stack. Too bad.
So do all of the "on death" abilities only work once per battle? The Spellsword has one for regenerating MP, summoners have one, and then Vampires have the undead ability. All of these are limit one use per battle?
See you in hell... Does that also only work once per battle?
Elaugaufein
Member
Undead definitely works more than once per battle.