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Bravely Default |OT| For the Americas
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SoraanTribal
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You'll hate
Chapters 6, 7, and 8 then. 
Skip all the sidequest bosses in Chapters 5 and 6 - EXCEPT do the new Conjurer sidequest in Chapter 6. Do the ones in Chapter 7 and steal from every boss. Chapter 8 is a good challenge, but nothing good as far as drops/steals. If you want to do a few of the ones in Chapter 5 to get a feel for how the world is different, feel free, but some of them haven't changed much.
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theprodigy
Member
Don't listen to this guy, Agnes and Airy sound just as terrible
chaosblade
Unconfirmed Member
Wow, that fight in Chapter 8
Seems like you have to cheese it one way or another, because of the 1HKO on the first turn. Either Stillness or Iceflame shields on everyone, and I'm not even sure the latter would work? Didn't try, but Enigma didn't work since the Fire-Weak debuff overrides it.
49th floor in Central Command against the mages.
Adam Prime
hates soccer, is Mexican
Just started Ch.5, where can I go grind out JP and Pg? I know the answers are in this thread, but it's going to take so long to go through every page in this thread before I find it! Help!
theprodigy
Member
Just started Ch.5, where can I go grind out JP and Pg? I know the answers are in this thread, but it's going to take so long to go through every page in this thread before I find it! Help!
Rafflesias in Florem
chaosblade
Unconfirmed Member
Florem Gardens in the second "room" and beyond seemed to have the highest density of them to me, but I'm not sure if that's actually accurate or it just seemed that way.
I don't know how viable it is, but apparently you can actually drain all their MP and win that way. You can also use shin smash on
Qada
Just started Ch.5, where can I go grind out JP and Pg? I know the answers are in this thread, but it's going to take so long to go through every page in this thread before I find it! Help!
Around the Florem area. I used the island northeast of it with the obelisk on it (has a grassy, sandy, and snowy area on it) but I don't know if it really matters.
eudaemonic
Member
You'll hateChapters 6, 7, and 8 then.
Skip all the sidequest bosses in Chapters 5 and 6 - EXCEPT do the new Conjurer sidequest in Chapter 6. Do the ones in Chapter 7 and steal from every boss. Chapter 8 is a good challenge, but nothing good as far as drops/steals. If you want to do a few of the ones in Chapter 5 to get a feel for how the world is different, feel free, but some of them haven't changed much.
I had someone else I know who is playing this warned me about it last night and it really took the air out of my sails for wanting to finish it. I'm still in Chapter 4 right after finding Edea's room. For those who did finish the game... is it worth it?
If you think you'll get bored, just skip the sidequests in 5 and 6 (except for one where you get the last job...it's pretty clearly telegraphed which one it is). 7 and 8 have more challenging boss fights and 7 has great items to steal in just about every fight, but, again, if you don't feel like doing them, you don't have to do the majority of them. Personally I didn't have a problem with any of it since most of those boss fights were done in an attack turn or two at that point, but I can understand the complaints. I did like the true ending and the game overall quite a bit.
theprodigy
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The_Darkest_Red
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AppleSautts
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Yeah, the whole refighting the bosses does suck, but with the right jobs, they get to be pretty easy. You can grind in the northern part of Florem..it's the area that gives the most XP/JP that I know of. The sidequest bosses aren't completely pointless; they'll have new dialogue and some reveal more info of the backstory. I recommend at least fighting Braev again because he reveals his motives for being an Anticrystalist. Just keep grinding though until you get halfway through chapter 6 because that's when things start to become clear.
theprodigy
Member
you have some alternate suggestions for beating the gauntlet at base level (besides the other options from that playthrough, like Lightning Bane+Pantheon's Wrath)
flatearthpandas
Member
Trying to collect Genomes. One of them is supposed to come from the Ice Golem in Chapter 5 according to the site I've been looking at, but he doesn't seem to be there.
Any tips?
I can see why people would complain, but I've enjoyed Chapter 5 way more than Chapters 1-3.
They tried DS-style subplots in those chapters but, unlike DQ, none of them were endearing and I found all but the ones in Chapter 2 to be aggressively obnoxious.
I like having the freedom to do things in whatever order I want and it has been interesting reading the
text from the bosses. But then again, I'm one of the minority who really enjoyed the Endless Eight in
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I assumed it meant the one you fight at the beginning of Chapter 4 but perhaps I'm mistaken?
I can see why people would complain, but I've enjoyed Chapter 5 way more than Chapters 1-3.
They tried DS-style subplots in those chapters but, unlike DQ, none of them were endearing and I found all but the ones in Chapter 2 to be aggressively obnoxious.
I like having the freedom to do things in whatever order I want and it has been interesting reading the
new
Melancholy Season 2
You can fight them around the Eternia area now.
The_Darkest_Red
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I haven't finished it myself so I can't say. All I'm saying is the rewards for finishing this particular part of the game are pretty paltry so if the only way to do it is this type of cheesing (which, lets be honest, requires no strategy whatsoever) what's the point? Just to say you did it?
If I got to a point where I didn't think I could beat that part of the game without resorting to a method like this I would just move on but I guess that's just me.
Also, if the game is balanced such that there is no way to win these fights without this type of cheesing then I would have to say that is pretty poor game design.
theprodigy
Member
it's a low level run, if you try a straight fight you're gonna get slaughtered mercilessly by everything
of course a LLG would use all the broken strats, you definitely could do a "fair" fight at level 99 though
flatearthpandas
Member
Ah, so it's a random battle now? Thanks!
WeaponKnight
Member
Do we know if jobs affect stat growth like in Tactics?
I'm trying to decide who's going to be the mage and physical attacker, but I don't want to limit myself to that combo if possible.
I'm trying to decide who's going to be the mage and physical attacker, but I don't want to limit myself to that combo if possible.
ActStriker
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No, they don't
The_Darkest_Red
Member
Okay, that's a fair point. I didn't pay enough attention to see that it was a low level run. And look, there are varying degrees of "cheesing" in this game and I totally realize that (and am guilty of it myself in some ways), I just feel like that particular example is extreme enough to make it kind of pointless if it were a regular run.
WeaponKnight
Member
Thanks!
That's good to know.
chaosblade
Unconfirmed Member
Running them out of MP seems pointless, if you're set to survive their attacks they aren't difficult.
Shin Smash seems like it could work though, provided the combined attacks aren't enough to kill you without Fire-Weak.
It's like fondue.
So I downloaded the demo and have been tinkering with it before I get the full game.
Is it me, or is this thing really hard? On normal, enemies do a lot of damage, and you can't use magic until you reach level 1 in the job thing (which takes a whole lot of battles). So far, I've been running around the main city you start from and resting at the inn/saving after every battle....I've turned the difficulty down to easy, and even still, the grinding isn't very fast. I bought a cure spell but can't use it since I'm guessing I need to get get enough job points for white/red mage or whatever...
Or am I doing something terribly wrong?
Is it me, or is this thing really hard? On normal, enemies do a lot of damage, and you can't use magic until you reach level 1 in the job thing (which takes a whole lot of battles). So far, I've been running around the main city you start from and resting at the inn/saving after every battle....I've turned the difficulty down to easy, and even still, the grinding isn't very fast. I bought a cure spell but can't use it since I'm guessing I need to get get enough job points for white/red mage or whatever...
Or am I doing something terribly wrong?
theprodigy
Member
can you even tell how much MP the enemy has?
you can use magic immediately, just buy a spell and switch to white/black/red mage....
you can use magic immediately, just buy a spell and switch to white/black/red mage....
Agnes (at times), a few NPCs, and maybe Airy aside, all the voices are good.
Wow this game was pretty boring from the outset. Hearing everyone here say it gets worse as it goes on does not fill me with optimism
The story gets better.
The_Darkest_Red
Member
I agree with this. I actually love the VA of a lot of the antagonists, and the writing is solid as well.
Well yeah, I wouldn't do the MP strategy either lol. It would take too damn long, assumedly.
Another way that would probably work without using Stillness is to have a Spiritmaster and 3 Dark Knights. Make sure the Spiritmaster is faster than the Dark Knights and use Adaptation four times. Then Dark Nebula x4 with the Dark Knights. Don't see why it wouldn't work.
theprodigy
Member
but that doesn't stop you from getting nuked by fire
anyway (spoilers):
chapter 6,7,8 names are equal, dash, circle
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whoa it's also a countdown
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whoa it's also a countdown
Does it not? Does the fire-weak override that or something?
Then again, wouldn't most of them be dead after that anyway?
chaosblade
Unconfirmed Member
Yeah, fire-weak overrides any buffs/immunities as long as it's the last one to be casted.
Not sure if that applies to equipment, eg Iceflame shield, or not.
My mistake then. Still, you should be outputting enough damage to kill them in one hit, at least on normal.
I think it does override equipment. I seem to remember have Agnes holding an iceflame shield the first time and it didn't work out.
No idea what he means, unless the enemies have more than 120k HP they'll get grilled in the first round anyways.
That's what I figured, as long as you're faster. Just go Gloom+P attack 30%+two handed for your abilities to output even more damage.
The_Darkest_Red
Member
There isn't a very efficient way to get rid of something like fire-weak is there? Dispel with Group-Cast All maybe? Haven't tried it.
dreamer3kx
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Is this similar to tactics where I dont have to switch jobs at all, just stick to what I like throughout the whole game, I want to play this but not crazy about job systems.
theprodigy
Member
several of those bosses have over 120k HP, not to mention there's plenty of statuses that they can inflict to stop a few Dark Nebulas here and there, completely screwing up your plans (Paralyze, Charm, etc.)
espeically Einheria, you need 15 hits to kill her
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Deleted member 125677
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What's your favorite troll build?
Templar, Performer, Spiritmaster and any damage dealer of choice seem to roflstomp everything
Templar, Performer, Spiritmaster and any damage dealer of choice seem to roflstomp everything
Wasn't the original post I responded to just talking about the individual boss fight, not the gauntlet? HP depends on the difficulty as well.
theprodigy
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the discussion was about the Mega Magic fight, where
Yulyana
now obviously if he's not playing on hard mode then that strategy would probably work, but he never specified anywhere
Depends on how much time you want to put in the second half of the game.
If you already leveled up high in Ch. 4 it's completely possible to start the final boss fight about an hour after you finish Ch.4
It's also possible to spend about 10-15 hours doing nothing but side-quests in these Chapters.
Well, just wondering since you were bringing up other bosses who aren't in that battle. Thought maybe I missed something. Definitely wouldn't do that in the gauntlet lol. I was just theorizing non-stillness methods anyway, never used that myself.
The Wraith
Member
Im at the end of Chapter 4 and I think I might be overleveled because I kicked the shit out of every boss on that chapter. Im level 60 btw.
bodine1231
Member
Wow this game was pretty boring from the outset. Hearing everyone here say it gets worse as it goes on does not fill me with optimism
I'm at the beginning of Chapter 3 and I'm about ready to quit. While I like the improvements to the combat and I find the art very charming, the story and characters are boring as hell. Typing this now, I can't remember all the main characters names or motivations and I stopped playing only a few hours ago. In general the voice acting is 'ok' but Agnes' has one of the most annoying,overacted voices in recent memory.
This was easily my most anticipated game of the year because the JRPG genre is by far my favorite but so far this has been a slog. Also,I'm having a blast with South Park which is also killing my desire to go back to BD and with FFX/X2 coming out soon the window for me continuing with this game is closing.