layzie1989
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i thought the reveal of Gus' face was amazing.
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Breaking Bad - Season 4 - Sundays on AMC
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FantasticMrFoxdie
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Meaning of Flowers:
The irony that out of all of Walt's plans throughout the show this is the one that nearly works out perfectly. Hell, even Gus' intuition/spidey sense conveniently sets itself up to look like the Cartel was solely responsible for the bombing in that nursing home.
The irony that out of all of Walt's plans throughout the show this is the one that nearly works out perfectly. Hell, even Gus' intuition/spidey sense conveniently sets itself up to look like the Cartel was solely responsible for the bombing in that nursing home.
ZoddGutts said:
It's not selfish to edit my own posts; and I wasted no time admitting and taking responsibility for what I did. If lying about such inconsequential things is the biggest sin you have to compare me to Walt with, then your point was obviously not very well thought out.
Walt's "bad decisions" are destroying innocent people. My "bad decisions" are merely harming myself.
Liquid Helium
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I'm guessing crippled little rat.midonnay said:
Americanmushroom
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layzie1989 said:
+1 on that. It was shocking, funny and crazy at the same time , that's what breaking bad is all about
brianjones
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Farooq said:
moreso just disappointed in the poor writing
does walt poisoning broc really have any effect on the ending other than issuing a cheap twist?
you could have pretty much the same result without it
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Deleted member 30609
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I can't wait to see where they go with the DEA storyline next season. I mean, it's about the only storyline they have left now.
Well, that, and Mike.
Well, that, and Mike.
FantasticMrFoxdie
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snack said:
Holy shiiit.
So was that Gus picture the actual spoiler pic that was floating around weeks before?
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Deleted member 30609
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yep.FantasticMrFoxdie said:
The song playing while Gus was walking towards the retirement home.
Apparat - Goodbye
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJWpFv-I96E
I have already said the music supervision has been excellent. Man, Breaking Bad just takes it to a another level.
Apparat - Goodbye
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJWpFv-I96E
I have already said the music supervision has been excellent. Man, Breaking Bad just takes it to a another level.
lancerotomy
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mike is coming back in a big way. they can't just kill major characters off that simply.
Americanmushroom
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I got a stupid question: Walt poisoning the kid with the flower, did he knew beforehand that the kid would survive. Or is the flower actually deadly?
Americanmushroom said:
the flower is actually deadly. There is absolutely no way to predict how an individual will react to the flower. Even if you give someone a dose that might typically be nonlethal, that person may have an allergic reaction to the toxins. But yes, it is quite deadly. Coma, cardiac arrest, etc. It is even recommended you wash your hands after handling the stuff.
RaidenZR said:
I also didnt like it. I wish he had stumbled out and kind of fell to the ground, then the camera pans around and you see half of him fucked up, then he collapses completely.
Him walking out, without so much a s a limp and adjusting his tie was a bit much. Im not against the concept, I think the concept was cool, but they just laid it on a bit to thick.
Star Power said:
Easy, Jesse is not going to let it go. The boy damn near died, he is going to ask the boy how he came upon the plant once he is fully recovered. And from there Jessie will follow the crumbs and figure it out. That plus the little relationship Jessie formed with Mike (who will undoubtedly return) will lead to a Jessie vs Walt thing.
FantasticMrFoxdie
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Farooq said:
I am....even though I was one of the first people to point it out that Heisenberg, not Walt, was the one who did it.
Thinking back now that we've seen the finale. Walt really gave Jesse a loaded gun in that scene and told him to shoot him in the head. Jeeesus, Walt.
Americanmushroom
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Amir0x said:
ok than Walt is really evil lol. (yeah i know most of you guys see him that way... but i saw him like a 'good' evil guy lol... not anymore i guess
)ezekial45 said:
I'm not sure if I'm explaining my question right.
Didn't Gus and the black guy only become aware of Hector's potential threat after he actually went or just came out of the DEA's office ? So how could Walt count on Gus somehow knowing that he or one of his men would have followed Hector on that day from his retirement center to the DEA's office?
JoJoShabadoo
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Damn, that was actually kind of a disappointing finale. I mean, I was enjoying it up until the explosion. What the fuck, seriously Gus? What is this, Batman? That was some gratuitous shit right there.
The conclusion to Brock was weak. Just the way it was edited, with Jesse showing up on a rooftop just summing up quickly, "He's okay"
For a second I thought I was watching Dexter with the rushed, convenient ending to a season. I'm surprised so many people said it felt like a series finale.
Too many loose ends. You can tell the writers treated everything like a plot device this season :/
Sorry for shitting on the parade.
The conclusion to Brock was weak. Just the way it was edited, with Jesse showing up on a rooftop just summing up quickly, "He's okay"
For a second I thought I was watching Dexter with the rushed, convenient ending to a season. I'm surprised so many people said it felt like a series finale.
Too many loose ends. You can tell the writers treated everything like a plot device this season :/
Sorry for shitting on the parade.
Grinchy
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lol good pointHiltz said:
I've always said that Gus has men watching things only when it's convenient to the story. I can't believe Walt and Jesse were free to roam around however they wanted to during all this. Why was Walt even able to go and buy the stuff to make the bomb? Shouldn't someone have been watching his house?
Thats my only issue with this episode, I guess I'm assuming Gus always keeps tabs on the DEA? or somehow got wind of the "tip" that the DEA got?Hiltz said:
Because if not, Walt assumed that the home WASNT being monitored when he visited, yet banked on the complete opposite assumption once the plan had been set in motion.
la flama blanca
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So to recap, the motivation to kill Gus at that point wasn't necessarily because he threatened to kill his family, but because he felt that he was losing in a battle of wits. You know, I never felt that Walt truly respected Jesse. I don't know about anyone else, but I'd be satisfied having the show end with Walt truly having lost everything, no money, cancer coming back, his family, his son, Jesse...all hating him for all the horrible decisions he's made.
LaserBuddha
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Cipherr said:
I recall a real murder where a guy attacks his parents with an axe while they're asleep. We're talking many axe wounds to the head. The father got up, head split open like an orange, wandered downstairs, and tried to put away the dishes and make coffee before he died.
People do weird things when they are in shock and are, under odd circumstances, able to do them when extremely badly wounded.
I've seen a guy with a self-inflicted gunshot wound to the face, who looked at least as bad off as Gus did, casually sitting on an examination table.
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Deleted member 30609
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Walt knew the DEA was being monitored.
brianjones said:
Not really, if he didn't do it and it was random, then there's no possibility that Walt would be found out. The result is far more breathtaking because it shows that Walt was just as methodical of not more so than Gus as it came to manipulating Jesse. Even at the end Jesse was doubting whether killing Gus was the right move (even after Gus' henchmen tazed him and took him back to the lab). That's just how much Gus got in to his head. Ss Walt's little game with the gun and story about Gus (which was possibly not even loaded) was pretty remarkable.
Grinchy said:
Exactly! Even in last week's episode, I don't understand how Gus suddenly decided to walk away from going into the car with the bomb on it in the hospital's parking garbage. Was he tipped off ?
Farooq said:
I thought about this explaination but haven't seen all of the episodes so it seemed like a bit of a stretch. Although, I knew he had some connections with law enforcement based on a previous episode.
brianjones
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joshcryer said:
walt already watched jane die though.. with broc you're just hammering home the same point (in a _contrived_ way)
this show was so much better prior to season 2 plane crash.. ugh
Overall, my 2 main issues with the finale were:
1. The nitpicky plot stuff, which was necessary, but require a few leaps, IE master pickpocket Huell, the DEA monitoring, etc, etc.
2. The show didn't keep up the frenetic ending of 3 episodes ago when Walt lost it- I thought the show was about to explore some really dark places (which it arguably did tonight) but the sense of dread and urgency simply wasn't there for me. It kind of cheapens that episode in hindsight.
Still liked it a ton though.
1. The nitpicky plot stuff, which was necessary, but require a few leaps, IE master pickpocket Huell, the DEA monitoring, etc, etc.
2. The show didn't keep up the frenetic ending of 3 episodes ago when Walt lost it- I thought the show was about to explore some really dark places (which it arguably did tonight) but the sense of dread and urgency simply wasn't there for me. It kind of cheapens that episode in hindsight.
Still liked it a ton though.
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Master pickpocket? He practically molested him, or something.
Grinchy
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I'm pretty sure Jesse is going to add this up next season. He said something like, "..but [Gus] had to go, right?" Once he realized Gus didn't poison the kid, it does raise the question of why it was in Jesse's interest to kill Gus.
Now Jesse doesn't have his multi-million dollar contract anymore. He hated Walt before the poisoning convinced him to join Walt against Gus. Now that he knows it wasn't Gus, he's going to figure out he was used like a little BIIIITCH
Now Jesse doesn't have his multi-million dollar contract anymore. He hated Walt before the poisoning convinced him to join Walt against Gus. Now that he knows it wasn't Gus, he's going to figure out he was used like a little BIIIITCH
Beelzeboss
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Walt, Jesse, Mike and Saul team up in Season 5 and create a new empire.
I am ready for this.
I am ready for this.
la flama blanca
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What chemistry teacher isn't?Xater said:
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Deleted member 30609
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I don't think the writers are going to run with Jesse suspecting Walt for the poisoning angle. The next season is Walt trying to restore normality in his life, but being held up by Hank, Mike and that German company. I doubt he will willingly get back into the meth business.
Hiltz said:
Yes. Jesse gave him an impression that he had aligned with Hank again. It was clear in their talk in the hospital chapel. He didn't know what was happening with the car, but something told him that it was unsafe to continue in the direction he was on, just didn't add up, how Jesse was behaving.
FantasticMrFoxdie
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Its not Tio that Gus was keeping tabs on, it was Hank.
Tio calls for Hank ONLY. Tyrus follows Hank. A Wild Tio Appeared! TyTy hits up his boy, GusGus. Gus Gus am cry.
Tio calls for Hank ONLY. Tyrus follows Hank. A Wild Tio Appeared! TyTy hits up his boy, GusGus. Gus Gus am cry.
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