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Breaking Bad - Season 4 - Sundays on AMC
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Battersea Power Station
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Oh, ok.Gr1mLock said:
SCULLIBUNDO
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Holy shit this season is like the worst parts of last season concentrated and injected into every goddamn episode.
I fucking hate Walt. Why is the show making me absolutely despise characters I used to like. Did some writers from Entourage jump on board this show last season?
Last season it felt like this as well. As if they were fucking around until the last three episodes.
I mean I even hate Hank, these days. HANK.
Saul is the only character I don't mind being on screen now.
Oh, and I have loved Cranston ever since the early Malcolm days. It is incredibly sad to watch him turn what started as an interesting performance into a one-note caricature on this show. Those of you saying he's producing dramatic gold need to share the blue meth around.
I fucking hate Walt. Why is the show making me absolutely despise characters I used to like. Did some writers from Entourage jump on board this show last season?
Last season it felt like this as well. As if they were fucking around until the last three episodes.
I mean I even hate Hank, these days. HANK.
Saul is the only character I don't mind being on screen now.
Oh, and I have loved Cranston ever since the early Malcolm days. It is incredibly sad to watch him turn what started as an interesting performance into a one-note caricature on this show. Those of you saying he's producing dramatic gold need to share the blue meth around.
Spotless Mind
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One note? I think i know who's been snorting the blue meth...Scullibundo said:
He may be completely unlikable (and has been from the beginning imo), but i find Walt's rationalizations for his actions utterly fascinating.
sixteen-bit
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Cranston is all like, "stay free, Sculli"BigAT said:
OpinionatedCyborg
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Andy Richter should've played Gale.
OpinionatedCyborg
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switched dye because the red hair looks like he's been eating chocolate ice cream/shitbtkadams said:
Scullibundo said:
Aw, it's cute. Yet another person who thinks liking a character is synonymous with a character being well written. Thank God for shows which aren't huge pussies and understand a true dramatic arc, and allow characters to be completely unsympathetic.
Scullibundo said:
hahahahahahahaa one note oh god hahaa
RatskyWatsky
Hunky Nostradamus
What are your problems with the show, Ami, if you don't mind my asking?
dead souls
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Amir0x said:
Indeed. Anyone who thinks Cranston is turning in a one note performance must be watching a different show than me.
-Pyromaniac-
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I was going to reply with the same thing amirox said but was too lazy to hit reply but yeah, laugh worthy stuff.
dave is ok
aztek is ok
The writing this season has been no different from any other season, just as good. And Walts rationalizations remain as entertaining as always
FantasticMrFoxdie
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Fuck yeah.
Wait, this is still going to be 13 eps right?
Cornballer
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I don't think that's new information. Speculation is that they'll reach a deal for a fifth and final season, but they haven't officially announced anything yet.
dave is ok
aztek is ok
AMC is willing to do a 13 ep fifth season. Latest is that Gilligan wants 20 episodes to finish up.
Foliorum Viridum
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I don't understand the Skyler hate. She might be the best thing about this season so far, other than Mike being his usual bad ass self.
I love the way she's getting further involved with the plotting and the fact she's looking at every little detail - down to the fact she wrote a script for how to tell their lie.
Wonderful. Absolutely wonderful.
In a season where Walt isn't really doing much interesting and Jesse is yet again on a self-destructive spiral, she is by far the most interesting thing.
I really liked the focus on Hank and Marie in the last episode... or the one before that, I can't remember which. The one where she started stealing again. That was really great TV, too.
I love the way she's getting further involved with the plotting and the fact she's looking at every little detail - down to the fact she wrote a script for how to tell their lie.
Wonderful. Absolutely wonderful.
In a season where Walt isn't really doing much interesting and Jesse is yet again on a self-destructive spiral, she is by far the most interesting thing.
I really liked the focus on Hank and Marie in the last episode... or the one before that, I can't remember which. The one where she started stealing again. That was really great TV, too.
POWERSPHERE
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This season has me hating Walt and liking Skylar more, and is a glaring example of the marvellous writing & well planned character development this show has. Great shit.
-Pyromaniac-
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I don't HATE Skyler but there is something about her that rubs me the wrong way. She kind of seems like she doesn't have many feelings. Maybe that's not the right wording or what I really mean, hard to say. At least I don't find her annoying like I did for most of last season. I actually don't mind her at all now besides the thing I can't explain, which is no big deal.
Mr. Saturn
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Spire said:
Yeah Janice was awful, especially when she went through her
short lived stint of writing christian music in season 3(?)
and the mom was something else entirely.
Shalashaska
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Very true. Aside from Tony and his Dad I found the rest of his family to be extremely tough to watch.Spire said:
brianjones
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Spire said:
they're annoying in a funny way though
skyler is just a humorless black hole.. bland character
Mr. Saturn said:
great example of what i mean.. i find that funny in its absurdity.. and it's such a small plot point that weaves seamlessly into an episode
PhoenixDark
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Amir0x said:
He thinks Avatar is a great movie, he doesn't know shit about film or television.
Great episode. But can Jesse finally be killed already? I realize the show has never truly been "realistic" but his antics have begun to make some of the drama seem moot. Gus killed Vincent as a precaution. Yet he allows Jesse to live when his every move endangers the operation? Jesse lives in a well off neighborhood. He has no explanation for his income, and his house is poorly kept and loud. All it would take is one complaint call to bring everything down.
What's Walter going to do, if Gus kills Jesse? Stop working? I doubt that. Go to the police? Of course not. "Disappear"? He can try, but his every move is being watched. So while I think these last few episodes have been great, this glaring issue is making me question the show's seriousness.
FrenchMovieTheme
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brianjones said:
fuck no. tony's mom and sister were horrible. i was hoping someone would put a bullet in both of their heads from the beginning of that show
PhoenixDark said:
Personally, I don't see it as a glaring issue. Walt's shown himself to be fairly unpredictable in the past, so Gus doesn't want to risk having him act out more. Yes, Jesse's a liability, but Gus' need for Walt to keep making meth is far greater than any concern over Jesse is.
PhoenixDark
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Vlad said:
If Jesse is caught or investigated, Gus' entire operation ends though; that concern is far more important than any concern over Walt. He cannot afford to be careless, yet employs someone who is a complete liability. And while Walt is a certainly unpredictable, his responses to Jesse's death would be limited. He can't quit, go to the police, or kill anyone of importance in the operation.
Considering Walt will probably have to deal with cancer again eventually, Gus already knows Walt is not a long term investment; he'll have to replaced eventually. Jesse isn't trustworthy enough to take over, and Vincent is dead. It would make far more sense to start looking for a new partner for Walt, to learn from him and continue the work in the event of his demise.
Mr. Saturn
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PhoenixDark said:
I agree, Walt wouldn't be able to kill anyone of import, but that might not be the problem. The problem could be, that if Gus does kill Jesse, Walt might go off the deep end and Mike will be forced to take him out, leaving Gus with no cook. Obviously Gus is probably looking for a replacement for Walt, but he still needs him to keep cooking, and right now he might be trying to placate Walt by allowing his partner to live. Just my 2 cents of course.
SCULLIBUNDO
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Amir0x said:
Not at all. Case in point: Tony Soprano. Completely despicable character. Well written.
I'm not saying that Walt's becoming an unlikable person annoys me, its completely to do with him becoming an unlikable character. He is boring to watch now. Walter White has become a caricature. I constantly find myself hoping Walt will surprise me when watching him in each episode. I literally have no vested interest in the character right now, which saddens me because it wasn't the case two seasons ago.
AlimNassor
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Scullibundo said:
How is he unlikeable? What has he done that's out of character? Walt has no street experience that's why he had jesse around, and now Gus wants him dead.
Battersea Power Station
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Not saying I agree with it, but the sentiment is that Walt is a bitterly proud egomaniac who wants to prove that he's more in control than he actually is, and that this personality is the only driving factor (ok, and fear of death) in his actions, making him and the show predictable. I can see the argument, but I think it's just a phase. Walt has certainly changed (for the worse) since the beginning of the show, and I'm sure he'll change again. It's character development.bud said:
sixteen-bit
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to watch, or not to watch?Granger Danger said:
D:
I don't wait to be spoiled again like I was the RE4/L4D conversation
Seems like Walt still has
runningjoke
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IMO it doesn't spoil anything. It could be the cold open scene from the next episode._dementia said:
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