Breaking Bad - Season 4 - Sundays on AMC

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I have a weird feeling they're going to split it up into two 8-episode half seasons over the course of a year like Battlestar Galactica or something. AMC needs to milk that cow somehow.
 
Drewsky said:
I don't know I think it might be something bigger than that. Didn't he say he was working with Mike more that next day? I see Jesse as very much a follower, almost childlike, and if these guys give him some responsibility and the opportunities to feel like he means something, it would be very easy for him to turn on Walt. I may be completely wrong though. I guess we;ll find out.
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Well it could be, or it could that he just wants Jesse busy at all times, so he doesn't go back to his crack den of his house and start snorting his life away again.

On the other hand, it could be that Gus has so much contempt for Walt, knowing full well that he's a genius and could run things and feels slightly threatened, that he's getting back at him by taking away his control of Jesse.
 
_dementia said:
Anyone have a gif of Walt's change of expression once Marie opens the door to them in last week's episode.
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RaidenZR said:
If anyone's fielding requests, a gif of "Go ahead kid, smoke up." would be fantastic.
And I'll be your best friend.
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TheOddOne said:
Its sad to hear, but at the same time we can expect one hell of a season.
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I don't think it's sad. Vince Gilligan is ending the show on his own terms, as he'd always planned. Better that than having the story dragged out interminably, until it became ridiculous and a shadow of its former self. If anything, it makes the current season all the more exciting because there's a definite point at which Walter White will either crash and burn or mount the greatest escape in the history of humanity.

The announcement was perfectly timed with last night's episode in that respect, given how Walt seemed determined to walk the path of self-destruction. Amazing to think there are people complaining that the show's boring just because it's very patient and precise in building up its scenarios, allowing for a huge amount of tension when they finally unfurl. The homage to Once Upon A Time In The West was particularly great.

As usual, here's my full analysis and review. MAJOR SPOILERS within.
 
xandaca said:
I don't think it's sad. Vince Gilligan is ending the show on his own terms, as he'd always planned. Better that than having the story dragged out interminably, until it became ridiculous and a shadow of its former self. If anything, it makes the current season all the more exciting because there's a definite point at which Walter White will either crash and burn or mount the greatest escape in the history of humanity.
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Yeah, but I was expecting it to run for 2 more seasons and then end (I was hoping it would end). But yeah, ending it now with all the story progression is a great way to go.
 
We have eight episodes left this season plus another sixteen on the way. It will be very interesting to see how Gilligan & Co craft the end of the series. Walt's almost spinning completely out of control already, so they'll have to pull him back from the edge to keep it going for another twenty four episodes. I don't think he'd last much longer with his current mindset.
 
Cornballer said:
We have eight episodes left this season plus another sixteen on the way. It will be very interesting to see how Gilligan & Co craft the end of the series. Walt's almost spinning completely out of control already, so they'll have to pull him back from the edge to keep it going for another twenty four episodes. I don't think he'd last much longer with his current mindset.
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Either that or something major like Gus' death that would essentially reset things on the danger meter for a bit. Things were equally out of control with Tuco but after he was killed, everything settled down for a while.

Then again, at this point there are other factors involved beyond just Gus and the imminent danger he presents. Hank getting closer to Walt's trail and Walt's sanity stand out as being potential disastrous.
 
I'd guess that Gus will be taken out by the end of the season and next season will use the DEA/Hank/IRS or the Cartel as the primary antagonist
 
Good. I'm glad Vince isn't letting AMC walk all over him. Breaking Bad has always remained consistent, but, I seriously doubt they can keep on before it goes downhill.
 
ezekial45 said:
So how much time has passed during the series? Its all been less than a year, right?
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I think it's been a little over a year. Something in the previous episode about Hank tracking Heisenberg for a year or something.
 
I can see it happening now.. Hank figures it out but wait... FYI Hank.. all your medical bills have been paid with meth money.
 
About the dinner scene: Wasn't Skyler's reaction afterwards missing?
She just heard about some scientist-gone-meth-cook who was killed, wouldn't that make several alarms bell ring in her?!?

I think that would have been a much more interesting and realistic angle to explore, Walt getting Hank to reopen the case was a bit too much for me...



Zeliard said:
Pride is the primary reason for a lot of his detrimental actions throughout the show. It's almost certainly going to be his downfall.
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Pride is the primary reason for the show, period.
If Walt hadn't rediscovered his excessive feeling of pride, he would have accepted the money when Elliott and Gretchen Schwartz offered to pay for his treatment.
 
Acrylamid said:
About the dinner scene: Wasn't Skyler's reaction afterwards missing?
She just heard about some scientist-gone-meth-cook who was killed, wouldn't that make several alarms bell ring in her?!?

I think that would have been a much more interesting and realistic angle to explore, Walt getting Hank to reopen the case was a bit too much for me...
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I've got to imagine that's something they will explore in the next episode. I certainly hope they do at least. I can see her chastising Walt for being so foolish at dinner as well.
 
Acrylamid said:
About the dinner scene: Wasn't Skyler's reaction afterwards missing?
She just heard about some scientist-gone-meth-cook who was killed, wouldn't that make several alarms bell ring in her?!?
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It was very subtle, but I think I saw her realization happening.


Then again it's skylar, she was probably thinking about cock the whole time.
 
Acrylamid said:
About the dinner scene: Wasn't Skyler's reaction afterwards missing?
She just heard about some scientist-gone-meth-cook who was killed, wouldn't that make several alarms bell ring in her?!?
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She does, we get a shot of her and she is stunned that walt would say that.
 
Hey didn't Vince Gilligan say that with Breaking Bad he wanted to take Mr. Chips and transform him into Scarface?

Now, forgive me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't that imply Walt is going to become some big hotshot boss at some point in the series, maybe by the end of season 4?
 
There was a brief reaction shot right after Walt started his speech, I doubt they would leave this just like that. She was too apprehensive in the past to not make this connection.

dave is ok said:
She fucked Ted dude.

She.

Fucked.

Ted.
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She fucked Walt!
 
dave is ok said:
I'd guess that Gus will be taken out by the end of the season and next season will use the DEA/Hank/IRS or the Cartel as the primary antagonist
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Yeah, I think this season will be Gus vs Walt, and the final season will be Hank vs Walt. Hopefully Walt dies at the end of it all, while Jesse's storyline ends on a positive note.
 
Man walt's arrogance is going to be his downfall or cause some seriously bad stuff to happen. Was it explained completely what happened in the fallout between his partners who broke off and made millions? One of my favorite openings was the "what's in a human being" episode. I would love more flashbacks.
 
layzie1989 said:
Man walt's arrogance is going to be his downfall or cause some seriously bad stuff to happen. Was it explained completely what happened in the fallout between his partners who broke off and made millions? One of my favorite openings was the "what's in a human being" episode. I would love more flashbacks.
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Not really and it's something I would love for them to explore in more depth at some point. It seems to me like Walter perceived some non-existent slight from Gretchen and Elliot (or at least he completely exaggerated it in his mind) and then left the company. When he brings it up to Gretchen she seems to be legitimately confused about what he's talking about. "Is that how you see things?" or something to that effect.
 
BigAT said:
Not really and it's something I would love for them to explore in more depth at some point. It seems to me like Walter perceived some non-existent slight from Gretchen and Elliot (or at least he completely exaggerated it in his mind) and then left the company. When he brings it up to Gretchen she seems to be legitimately confused about what he's talking about. "Is that how you see things?" or something to that effect.
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I don't think we really know if it was a non-existent slight. Maybe they really did fuck him over. I for one hope they leave that storyline in the rearview, I mean we only have around 20 episodes of this show left.
 
layzie1989 said:
Man walt's arrogance is going to be his downfall or cause some seriously bad stuff to happen. Was it explained completely what happened in the fallout between his partners who broke off and made millions? One of my favorite openings was the "what's in a human being" episode. I would love more flashbacks.
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Yeah, I hope we get some more insight into Gray Matter this season.
 
_dementia said:
Yeah, I hope we get some more insight into Gray Matter this season.
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Really? I think we know enough, the specifics are unimportant. I can't see how Gray Matter would come up again in any meaningful way... That's like saying "I hope we learn more about Walt's relationship with his mom", are the few bits of info we have really not enough?
 
xbhaskarx said:
Yeah, I think this season will be Gus vs Walt, and the final season will be Hank vs Walt. Hopefully Walt dies at the end of it all, while Jesse's storyline ends on a positive note.
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This is what I hope what happens. Will be nice seeing Jesse having a happy ending one character must have a happy ending.
 
xbhaskarx said:
Yeah, I think this season will be Gus vs Walt, and the final season will be Hank vs Walt. Hopefully Walt dies at the end of it all, while Jesse's storyline ends on a positive note.
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Or Walt causes Jesse's death, Gus goes scott free and Walt goes to jail.

/crazy speculation.
 
someone needs to get "Flynn"s face when walt noticed the Bemekee mug.

even though i sort of caught on to the "plan", that scene where jesse took the car over was awesome

when walt was drunk and practially begging hank to look into the case more, it made me want to die. hank is now on to something with the chicken and i'm sure he can piece a lot together now.
 
xbhaskarx said:
Really? I think we know enough, the specifics are unimportant. I can't see how Gray Matter would come up again in any meaningful way... That's like saying "I hope we learn more about Walt's relationship with his mom", are the few bits of info we have really not enough?
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I liked seen Walt furious with Gretchen, I'd love to see more of that and how it mirrors his attitude with Gus/Jesse/etc.
 
Even though the Jesse/Mike driving sequence was so great, the part I laughed hardest at last night was Flynn realizing his parents had just doinked.
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Really? I think we know enough, the specifics are unimportant. I can't see how Gray Matter would come up again in any meaningful way... That's like saying "I hope we learn more about Walt's relationship with his mom", are the few bits of info we have really not enough?
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Pretty much. I mean, I do think they have enough time to give us some more info on either if they want to (24 episodes is a lot for this show), but I'm not sure it's necessary.
 
Drewsky said:
I don't think we really know if it was a non-existent slight. Maybe they really did fuck him over. I for one hope they leave that storyline in the rearview, I mean we only have around 20 episodes of this show left.
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All things considered, I think it's best if it's left to the viewer's imagination at this point. That, and given what we know about Walt's personality now, I firmly believe Gretchen's take on things, that Walt just up and left over something fairly unimportant. Outside of a few semi-redeeming moments here and there, Walt's been shown to be a VERY petty individual, with last night's dinner scene being only the most recent example.
 
xbhaskarx said:
Really? I think we know enough, the specifics are unimportant. I can't see how Gray Matter would come up again in any meaningful way... That's like saying "I hope we learn more about Walt's relationship with his mom", are the few bits of info we have really not enough?
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I just liked the flashbacks :(
 
_dementia said:
Yeah, I hope not
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ok fine. he's going to rescue Walt and Skyler from Gus when they get abducted end of this season.

final season is going to be. Walt Jr and Badger -- side story: Jesse is depressed again

Jr's crutches made out of M16s
 
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