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[Jak140]

Final shot: Walt carries Jesse's limp body. Whitney Houston's and I Will Always Love You blares as the Nazi camp explodes in the background.

 

[ChainedMaster]

Jesse made a lot of bad decisions, but they were never calculated decisions. They were largely reactionary and born from a lack of maturity or substance dependency.

Walter actively stood back, assessed a situation and *then* made bad decisions.

I suppose it's all a matter of perspective, but I have much greater empathy for Jessie than I have for Walt. Jesse feels like the product of a time and place, whereas Walter feels like someone who could have and should have known better.

Yeah, Jesse had no idea what he was doing when he went to NA meetings just to sell them meth. Not calculated at all.

 

[Sanjuro]

I don't think anyone suggested otherwise. I do believe in second chances though, unless you're that brutal.

Jesse is likely on his third/forth chance by now, at least from the duration of the series.

 

[peanutbutterlatte]

UK Gaffer, bailing the fuck out. See you all tomorrow night gentlepeople.

 

[Zoso Achilles]

I hope it ends with Walt becoming a lumberjack, that would be great.

 

[lastflowers]

Walt was just willing to sacrifice that relationship if it meant his own survival. It was always his own survival over Jesse. He was willing to use Jesse, if it meant for the "greater good" - as he saw it. Anyways, this talk about their relationship is kind of beyond the point now. Walt signed Jesse's death warrant. Jesse hates Walt's guts. It's never going to go back to what it was. I wouldn't be surprised if they killed each other.

It always seemed like Walt saw Jesse as his 'son', especially since Walt Jr was never supposed to know about Walt's 'meth-making genious'. Jesse took part and witnessed Walt at his most powerful. Their relationship also shows that Walt's 'doing it for the family' is partially bullshit, that the overarching core of Walt is his 'mastery'. He wants to be remembered as a master/genius, and uses his relationships to maintain and perpetuate this façade. He doesn't like Frank being a Hero, because HE must be the hero. He doesnt' want to be remembered as a cancerman or a gambling winner, he wants to be remembered as someone who made his money out of mastery of science.

It makes the show so much better: this transformation from season 2 where he was pretending to be this kingpin Heisenberg in order to get money for his family, where in reality this family-connection was the façade all along. He wants to be remembered as a man with power and genius.

 

[Courage]

Jesse is likely on his third/forth chance by now, at least from the duration of the series.

I feel as long as Walt exists, he would be sucked back into the game. Jesse can truly recover when Walt is dead.

 

[EdibleExplosives]

I'm not sure the question?

This stems from the notion that Jesse should be absolved of all guilt because he feels both of those things. I'm not sure why Walt has to feel that way? His character is molded in a manner where it's not necessary.

It's not necessary to feel guilt and regret? I'm not entirely sure what your point is.

The reason people feel bad for Jesse is that he has a conscience. He's no angel, but he hates himself for what he's done. Put that together with the fact that he's been punished over and over for his actions, and it's not exactly hard to understand why people want him to have a 'happy' ending (if that's even possible given his current situation).

Anyway, this point and the opposing arguments have been made over and over already.

 

[Vampirolol]

Jesse is the average drug addicted, he is victim of himself.

 

[ivysaur12]

Do we change the calendar? Tomorrow the start of year 1, ABB.

 

[airmangataosenai]

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I'd eat it.

 

[Sanjuro]

I feel as long as Walt exists, he would be sucked back into the game. Jesse can truly recover when Walt is dead.

That may be true. My ideal outcome for Jesse is after Walt dies, Jesse loses focus once again and overdoses.

 

[Speevy]

I wonder if Todd and Lydia have sex with their backs to each other.

 

[nOoblet16]

I have a question about Netflix, how long does it takes for the episode to come up after the air time in US Netflix? It takes a couple of hours for it to appear in the UK netflix even though I think I read it somewhere before the start of this season that they will make it available for viewing as soon as the US telecast is finished.

 

[Speevy]

I have a question about Netflix, how long does it takes for the episode to come up after the air time in US Netflix? It takes a couple of hours for it to appear in the UK netflix even though I think I read it somewhere before the start of Part 2 season 5 that they will make it available for viewing as soon as the US telecast is finished.

It doesn't come up at all on our Netflix. Latest we have is S5 part 1.

 

[Bleepey]

I have a question about Netflix, how long does it takes for the episode to come up after the air time in US Netflix? It takes a couple of hours for it to appear in the UK netflix even though I think I read it somewhere before the start of this season that they will make it available for viewing as soon as the US telecast is finished.

I think it's at about 9AM Uk time.

 

[nOoblet16]

I think it's at about 9AM Uk time.

And I've got a lecture at 9AM, followed by a project meeting...fuck me.

 

[The One Who Knocks]

I have a question about Netflix, how long does it takes for the episode to come up after the air time in US Netflix? It takes a couple of hours for it to appear in the UK netflix even though I think I read it somewhere before the start of this season that they will make it available for viewing as soon as the US telecast is finished.

It airs in America at 2am and it appears on Netflix between 9am to 11am (this is all in BST [ie if you live in Ireland or the UK]).

 

[Courage]

That may be true. My ideal outcome for Jesse is after Walt dies, Jesse loses focus once again and overdoses.

Highly doubt that. What Jesse has been through will scar him for life.

 

[Bedameister]

how long will the final episode be?

 

[Scalpel Knight]

It's so sad that I have to watch this myself, since nobody I know watches Breaking Bad. Seriously. All this BrBa themed food too. I want to sit down and eat Heisenberg cake and dipping sticks while I watch the finale with someone ;_;

 

[7he Talon]

how long will the final episode be?

75 minutes with ad breaks. Around 54 minutes of actual show.

 

[Bobby Roberts]

how long will the final episode be?

It's the 2nd sentence of the OP

 

[CharminUltra]

I hope it ends with Walt becoming a lumberjack, that would be great.

That's gold, Jerry! Gold!

 

[ZedIndyLil]

It's so sad that I have to watch this myself, since nobody I know watches Breaking Bad. Seriously. All this BrBa themed food too. I want to sit down and eat Heisenberg cake and dipping sticks while I watch the finale with someone ;_;

I'll watch it with you for 1 hour if you give me $10,000.

 

[Niraj]

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Totally agree. I had a friend who actually stopped after this episode. As Walt said to his family recently, I had to say "What the hell is wrong with you?!" lol (he eventually gave it another try)

 

[Bedameister]

75 minutes with ad breaks. Around 54 minutes of actual show.

thanks. I'll set my alarm clock and watch it tomorrow morning

 

[Ibuki]

I'll watch it with you for 1 hour if you give me $10,000.

Does this mean we get a good 6 minute cry with you for the price?!

 

[Ashok]

- HitFix: 'Breaking Bad': When did you know you were hooked?

Vince Gilligan is so good, he had me hooked before 'Breaking Bad' even existed. He had me the second Bryan Cranston showed up in 'The X-Files'.

 

[triplestation]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--z4YzxlT8o

 

[Globox_82]

does anyone have a stream for us Euros so we can watch it live?

 

[Speevy]

I hope it ends with Walt becoming a lumberjack, that would be great.

 

[Persona7]

I am ordering pollos for the last breaking bad episode meal.

pollos and a glass of my tears

 

[ZedIndyLil]

Does this mean we get a good 6 minute cry with you for the price?!

Your money.

 

[Zoolader]

So I'm thinking Elliot Schwartz of Gray Matter Tech. has been in cahoots with Lydia and Madrigal Electromotive GmbH. Seems messy saving that for the series finale but I'm thinking Walt is going to walk in on them if he goes after Elliot.

 

[Speevy]

So I'm thinking Elliot Schwartz of Gray Matter Tech. has been in cahoots with Lydia and Madrigal Electromotive GmbH. Seems messy saving that for the series finale but I'm thinking Walt is going to walk in on them if he goes after Elliot.

That would be a 24 level of stupid.

All the cards are out there. The people don't need twists.

 

[Bobby Roberts]

This is a show that surprises people, but it's not ABOUT surprising people.

Gilligan's said one of the best finales ever was the MASH finale - and that finale came up in the writers room.

There's gotta be something to that.

 

[Deleted member 30609]

Yeah, Jesse had no idea what he was doing when he went to NA meetings just to sell them meth. Not calculated at all.

I'm not arguing that Jesse hasn't made morally reprehensible decisions before.

Thinking back over it, I guess I don't classify addicts as complete degenerates. In a general case, I don't think you or I are just "made of stronger stuff" than an addict. In an alternate universe, a random innocuous decision by my parents might have seeded a chain of events that might have resulted in substance addiction. One bad emotional decision as a teenager might have triggered the same thing. I don't see myself as above that life, I see myself as fortunate to have avoided it by luck and circumstance.

With that in mind, I can (relatively) easily put myself into Walt's shoes at the start of season one. He might have lived a life more like my own. That's what makes his actions disgusting. That feeling: "I understand you and I would never make that decision". As opposed to the Jessie perspective: "I have not ever experienced what it's like to be in your world, but it seems profoundly hopeless and painful". A friend betraying you versus a dog biting you, for example.

Of course, I might be looking back over the series with a foggy lens. I'd forgotten about Jessie selling drugs to the AA attendees and whatnot.

 

[7he Talon]

It's sad thinking we'll never have a Breaking Bad cliffhanger again.

 

[Niraj]

Poor Huell, still eternally stuck in that safe house.

 

[BenjaminBirdie]

Yup just confirmed on the marathon. Walt knows where their compound is

 

[CrunchyFrog]

Huell still waiting

 

[Speevy]

What if everyone dies and leaves Jesse in the hole?

 

[Nokagi]

I sad thinking we'll never have a Breaking Bad cliffhanger again.

Unless the last episode is a cliffhanger then you'll have one foreverrrr!

 

[Psychological Intellect]

So I'm thinking Elliot Schwartz of Gray Matter Tech. has been in cahoots with the Lydia and Madrigal Electromotive GmbH. Seems messy saving that for the series finale but I'm thinking Walt in going to walk in on them.

wat

 

[lastflowers]

Huell still waiting

This should just be the final episode.

 

[BY2K]

Normally I wait for the next night to watch Breaking Bad, but I might make an exception for the finale.

I don't want people who watches the show at my job tomorrow going: DUDE DID YOU SEE THAT FINALE OMG!

 

[Ibuki]

wat

Do people really think it's likely that the two innocent ex-friends of Walt are going to be in the Meth business all along? Lol

 

[Speevy]

How many minutes of moping does Jesse need to get over Andrea?

 

[blainethemono]