Well, yes, I suppose that's true, but he was a disliked figure well before referendum day, and I have no doubt that he was ultimately an unwitting asset to the Leave campaign. He almost epitmoises the Leaver stereotype of the out-of-touch Brussels bureaucrat. From a British point of view, he was politically toxic from day one.
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jimbobsmells
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About 1500 people in London. Not sure how many will be affected.
what industry may I ask?
jimbobsmells
Member
Financial services.
I think that describes every single aspect of Brexit...
Even if this is tackled by private enterprises is some way (some of those are very difficult to do), they still need a lot of time to spin up. These aren't things that can be turned on from one day to the next.
standard.
Honestly, while I wasn't too hot on him, I feel like he actually cares about the European project. It's his predecessor, Barroso who felt like a soulless bureaucrat waiting for his pension, in my view. (Also, being "out-of-touch" with British politics is, as far I am concerned, an asset )
Exactly the point I was going to raise, thanks. Besides, it's hard to see how you could privatise a body that oversaw safe and legal transportation of nuclear fuel and isotopes, for example.
In other Brexit news, May's going to Florence next Friday, to make a speech on post-Brexit relations with the EU.
CyclopsRock
Member
Lol, I don't think that's quite what cartesian was getting at.
Are we just to repeat the same talk over and over, maybe the EU will blink this time....
If May says on the 21st Sept that the UK is paying 50 billion or whatever, take it or leave it, that has a chance of moving things. That's my guess.
A return of Thick Of It or a Brasseye: Brexit Special is what the country needs right now. Whether it deserves it is another question... considering what's happened in the last year, I feel like it may need a warning that this is actually satire and not real.
Apparently she chose the place not because any EU meetings are happening there, but because it is a historical city:
She doesn't dare set foot in Brussels so she travels all the way to Florence at the taxpayer's expense to give a speech where she will no doubt throw veiled threats left right and centre that are going to be completely ignored by the EU. It's all a fucking joke for these cunts.
She doesn't dare set foot in Brussels so she travels all the way to Florence at the taxpayer's expense to give a speech where she will no doubt throw veiled threats left right and centre that are going to be completely ignored by the EU. It's all a fucking joke for these cunts.
SlipperyFishes
Banned
Correct and they can they spin the problems with that against the EU, cauterising the stump when the population asking why the fuck a loaf of bread now costs £3.
Ah, going for the daily fail 'dagger to the heart of the EU' headlines. Sad state of affairs. What else is she going to do, come and join the UK in the new EUKU.
May is positioning herself for the conference, of course she will be take a hard swing to the Right for the next 3 weeks. She has to survive the inevitable challenge from the hardliners.
Camp Freddie
Member
No, dummy! The Great British people voted to reduce red tape and bureaucracy, not expand it.
It will be a complete disaster. UK regulatory agencies already have a staffing crisis due to budget cuts and hiring/wage freezes (speaking from personal experience). Most people quickly get a job in consultancy with a massive wage increase once they have enough training/experience. There simply aren't enough qualified people to do the jobs currently performed by the EU bodies. Creating a swathe of UK regulatory bodies would need the sort of public investment and political will that Frankfurt and Paris are putting in as they try to create new EU banking/medicines agencies. I think our regulatory agency plan is to buy an economy-size pack of rubber stamps and re-print every EU regulatory decision on UK.gov letterheaded paper. The cost of regulatory divergence would be too great. Things that have an unavoidable need for extra labour (customs checks) are just fucked.
The series we need, but not the one we deserve right now...
Edit: Why the fuck is May going to Florence? I'm not sure it qualifies as the historical heart of Europe in any sense. It comes across as being scared of taking on the big boys in Brussels.
It's famous for the enlightenment, being a centre of trade and Machiavelli.
Brexit's anti-expert gut feel politics is as far from enlightenment ideals as it is possible to get.
Brexit will make trade much more difficult and uncertain.
As for Machiavelli, I guess she has this part nailed:
A prince, therefore, must not mind incurring the charge of cruelty for the purpose of keeping his subjects united and confident
but this bit will bite her in the arse:
The first method for estimating the intelligence of a ruler is to look at the men he has around him.
I'm surprised she doesn't just stay at home and give a speech in York, the traditional capital of Europe (when some Emperor was crowned there and made it the centre of government for the Roman empire)
I'm just waiting for her to give a speech about the economy in Bradford, the traditional heart of the British economy (when our exports were dominated by the textile industry).
I know but at least the cunt could have some dignity and give the speech at number 10 instead of all this posturing. She can say whatever she wants, the EU are not going to change their stance.
Yup. A bit like her election to strengthen her hand and all that. Like Barnier gives a fuck how many MPs she has...
"I'm sorry, we can't compromise on the four freedoms."
"But the Conservative party has 396 MPs in the UK parliament."
*Gasps of horror from the EU delegation*
"B-but, the freedoms! How will they prevail now that you have a majority of 112 back home?"
"We took back control, Mr Barnier. Disgraced Former Defence Secretary Liam Fox has already stormed the Reichstag to negotiate with Mrs. Merkel. NOTHING stands in the way of the democratic will of the British people. Guards... Kill him."
And then John Redwood wakes up in a pool of sweat and semen. Some of it his own.
Orniletter
Banned
What are you refering to ?
I thought his speech was pretty great and agree with almost everything he said.
Quite. The only time it would matter how large a majority she had is if she didn't have one (and lo and behold...).
Also, if we could lay off the use of the c-word in reference to women, even if it's someone you really despise...
I don't think there's any sexist intent. She's one, Boris is one, Gove is one, Fox is one, etc. Nigel Farage is King Cunt and he's supposed to be the blokiest one of the lot, what with there being a pint permanently in his hand for cynical photo ops.
Oh no, I didn't think there was, otherwise my response would have been much more strongly worded, but it can obviously easily be construed that way. At any rate, I'll drop it - I've no desire to die on this hill.
"Britain will regret Brexit"
How does this not come across as an Anglophobic crowd and a threat / him playing to that crowd?
Edit: the fact they have to put up with Farage excuses them to some extent to be fair.
More a statement of fact than a threat.
UKIP are a UK party.
A statement of an honest opinion is a threat?
The Friendly Monster
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You understand that it was the UKIP MEPs that were cheering right?
MysteryQuesadilla
Member
I'm not from the UK but this thread is incredible.
Christ, I actually didn't..this is what happens when I post at work and skim read.
I am fake news guys
Royal_Phalanx
Member
Was going to say it was more a snarky response to the UKIP MEPs there.
So basically the same rumors that first appeared a few months ago.
If she actually goes through with it all i can say is wow
JonnyDBrit
Member
So this'll be another few weeks of NHS money eaten up:
https://www.bbc.com/news/amp/business-41275324
https://www.bbc.com/news/amp/business-41275324
Seven years and £800m to implement, 5,000 extra staff, all to man the border. It's a government project so you times those numbers by 1d6 and arrive at the real figure.
It's all eminently doable, but somehow I can't see more than seven years work being completed in eighteen months.
It's bad enough in the US specific threads people get called out on this, but this is a UK thread, people can be called a cunt without it having any sexist meanings.
They can, and again I don't believe the poster in question had that intention, but it's indubitably a word that's often used to denigrate women (even in the UK) and can very easily be misconstrued. I don't think many, if any, women frequent this thread, but it certainly doesn't present a very inviting environment. In short, we can easily avoid using a word that has very obvious, offensive connotations.
My issue is that labelling a woman a cunt or bitch due to hatred independent of her gender is indistinguishable from labelling her out of hatred for women. The end result is an atmosphere reminiscent of 4chan or a bad sub-reddit.
So what could someone call May? I don't mind it bring gender-neutral but it needs to be scathing enough to befit her character.
I would call her a callous, disgusting, heartless human being who is utterly terrible at her job, willingly putting lots of lives at risk of stress and unnecessary duress (including mine) for the sake of scoring political points, morally bereft and affected by the little Englander syndrome.
But fuck if I'm going to type that every time when cunt summarises it beautifully.
But fuck if I'm going to type that every time when cunt summarises it beautifully.
GrizzleBoy
Banned
Jeremy Hunt is a Cunt.
He is widely known as Jeremy Cunt.
Twat is also a super common UK insult, but 90% of people probably don't know that the word even refers to a vagina.
I never knew until I heard an American pronounce it as "twaht" in some comedy.
The tories are a bunch of dicks, Farage is a prick, Boris is a knob head and fuck Jeremy Cunt.
Leave my British curse words alone you bunch of cunty twazzocks.
I'm taking back control of cursing.
Fight me.
He is widely known as Jeremy Cunt.
Twat is also a super common UK insult, but 90% of people probably don't know that the word even refers to a vagina.
I never knew until I heard an American pronounce it as "twaht" in some comedy.
The tories are a bunch of dicks, Farage is a prick, Boris is a knob head and fuck Jeremy Cunt.
Leave my British curse words alone you bunch of cunty twazzocks.
I'm taking back control of cursing.
Fight me.
SlipperyFishes
Banned
Nervous about how the conservatives are going to policitize today into an immigration talking point for Brexit
Psychotext
Member
Cunt is supposed to be offensive, the point is (and it's been done to death) that cunt is used as frequently for men in the UK as it is for women... if not more to be honest (because obviously people are far more confident saying it of men!).
Psychotext
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Heading off to Oktoberfest in a minute... I wonder if there will be EU flags.
anonymous_abc
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