ArtHands
Thinks buying more servers can fix a bad patch
PlayStation, Bungie Still Going Ahead with Internal Live Service Team
Will support all of Sony's live-service titles
www.pushsquare.com
-
Hey, guest user. Hope you're enjoying NeoGAF! Have you considered registering for an account? Come join us and add your take to the daily discourse.
Bungie Creative Studios is joining PlayStation to build the foundation for a creative team that can support all PlayStation live service games
- Thread starter ArtHands
- Start date
www.pushsquare.com
Bojji
Gold Member
At least they will be useful in this form.
Angry_Megalodon
Member
Sony's stupidity is crossing dangerous limits.
You can't get any dumber than giving power to anyone coming from Bungie.
You can't get any dumber than giving power to anyone coming from Bungie.
mansoor1980
Member
but hermen hulst is so excited about bungie elevating the playstation brand , surely he is right
DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
I feel like something happened at the start of this gen where we were the ones that went on a seriously shit timeline for western development and gaming.
hinch7
Member
Hilarious but also sad that Bungie has been reduced to a live service support team. Both dropping the ball massively in not offering a game and studio to create a proper singleplayer FPS, with MP.
You'd think that after all the live service failures Sony would give up. But nope. Its as if they're in too balls deep and burned from Concord to give up.
You'd think that after all the live service failures Sony would give up. But nope. Its as if they're in too balls deep and burned from Concord to give up.
Last edited:
Bernardougf
Member
100% right.
Bojji
Gold Member
Maybe they will reconsider when they lose more money on it than on PS3 launch.
Killjoy-NL
Member
Isn't this similar to the Playstation ICE team, just for live service games specifically?
Thought this was the whole point of the Bungie acquisition to begin with.
Last edited:
hinch7
Member
Estimates are at $1.7B, which is insane. If we count the failed Bungie aquisition plus others, we're already there and then some.
I think Fair Game$ will be the ultimate test for them and their decisions regarding live service games going forward, if that totally flat-lines.
Last edited:
Lunarorbit
Gold Member
Fuck you bungie. This is the exact scenario I've been talking about and why the cancelation of factions was complete bullshit.
Neil, you're full of shit
Neil, you're full of shit
EDMIX
Writes a lot, says very little
I mean, where are you reading 100% of Bungie will just be doing this?
This is a large team, plus why would they say something like "build the foundation for a creative team" ? That sounds more like a portion of them will form a studio like how they did with ICE to oversee their big networking titles, which makes sense as this team might be one of the best in all of gaming in this area, why would they not have a team that over sees something like this?
So...until you are hearing them say Destiny 3 is cancelled, Marathon is cancelled etc, seriously, stop spreading this fucking misinformation.
kaizenkko
Member
I don't like the idea of Sony keep doing live service games, but the reality is that they have one incredible successful game (Helldivers 2) and a extreme failure (Concord) in this year. It's not like every game release have fail like Concord, well, at least not for now.
Sony will keep pursuin live service games just like... every other publisher. If they at least keep studios like Naughty Dog, Santa Monica and others out of this, we will be good.
Radical_3d
Member
Bungie never had a lot of luck with their contractors…
Bruno_Arrais85
Member
Burn to the ground
Punished Miku
Human Rights Subscription Service
Concord: Phoenix Rising, 2025
Ronin_7
Member
You sure it wasn't 4 Billion?
leizzra
Member
I think they would be better off by doing one GaaS game (like Destiny 3) and one single player (maybe with multiplayer mode) project. In theory, Sony has a studio with potential of doing another Halo (yes, IP is not as strong as it used to, I'm referring to the Halo as a symbol) or a competitor for CoD (well maybe they don't need one anymore, but I'd say that it's better to be prepared). They could even take Killzone IP and see what can be done there to make it bigger.
DonkeyPunchJr
World’s Biggest Weeb
is this a sign that they don’t have much confidence in Marathon?
If only they had support from Bungie, then Concord could’ve been the “next Star Wars” level of success that Sony expected.
Evil Calvin
Afraid of Boobs
Enough with the live service games. Chasing that white whale I guess.
Tiago Rodrigues
Member
We're really running on any unverified sources nowadays huh. All it takes is one youtuber mentioning a number.
Tiago Rodrigues
Member
The_Observer
Member
Yep, ps4 dreamteam replaced by incompetents chasing money and not caring about anything else (and still failing in it).
Last edited:
Bungie gained more than 500 employees since their acquisition with Sony. The layoffs essentially paired them down to what they were before and moved others around to prevent even more from being let go. Bungie is very much still developing games with over 900 employees.
Angry_Megalodon
Member
For that purpose, you don't appoint the heads of a falling studio to lead a project of even bigger scope.
Bungie has been taken over by Sony because of mismanagement, you don't want those people in charge. Arsonists can't become firefighters.
Last edited:
clarky
Gold Member
You got that from the article?
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
What happened to the narrative bungie was some kind of independently run gaming division?
Looks like it took Sony shorter than I thought to meld bungie into Sony.
At some point, the bungie brand will be gone. That’s after more destiny and marathon games in the future eventually end.
That’s when they can shelve the bungie name for good and just spread out any employees to other studios or rebrand them something else. They’ll be reduced to a 100% support studio down the road.
Looks like it took Sony shorter than I thought to meld bungie into Sony.
At some point, the bungie brand will be gone. That’s after more destiny and marathon games in the future eventually end.
That’s when they can shelve the bungie name for good and just spread out any employees to other studios or rebrand them something else. They’ll be reduced to a 100% support studio down the road.
ArtHands
Thinks buying more servers can fix a bad patch
This is good news OP, you got it wrong to report on it
Agree. Sounds like great news
AJUMP23
Parody of actual AJUMP23
Such optimism and hope like you avatar.
hemo memo
You can't die before your death
Sony buying Bungie is like buying a Ferrari to win races, but then mainly using it to teach your grandma how to parallel park.
hinch7
Member
Massive layoffs earlier this year. Bungie employees joining and transitioning to PS Studios prior. Echo's of development hell at Marathon. Destiny 2 DLC fail to meet expectations. This announcement.
splattered
Member
How fucking sad. Fuck current day gaming.
clarky
Gold Member
They are approximately the same size as they where pre acquisition.
Most Bungie games have been through dev hell in one form or another.
Destiny has been a top perfoming GAAS fpr ten years, its run its just course imo.
Thia announce is the same thing they had planned all along when Sony bought Bungie, nothing is new or changed.
Marathon and Destiny are still in active development so im not sure how advising other studios turns them solely into a support studio?
Last edited:
![[Sigma]](/data/avatars/m/701/701747.jpg?1726376545){kind=avatar}
Mibu no ookami
Demoted Member® Pro™
It's crazy the bubble people live in where non-development staff being brought to SIE as part of the integration in which SIE purchased Bungie is equated to Bungie becoming a support studio...
Non development staff will all largely move under Sony. It's literally why Sony bought them in the first place, so that they can integrate across all PlayStation Studios.
All these kids posting have never seen M&A before or dealt with it themselves.
This announcement goes with the first two items that you listed out. These are the individuals (155 employess) that are being transitioned over to PlayStation and SIE.. This isn't anything new, but now we know what some of them will be doing in their new roles.
Bungie Directors And Staff Transition To Sony As Part Of Post-Layoff Integration, Supporting PlayStation's Live Service Push
Bungie begins its integration with Sony following a second round of layoffs. Key staff and directors transition to PlayStation to support its live service games.
thegamepost.com
Bernardougf
Member
I think the lack of Sony first party's games from their major studios at this time of the gen is a direct consequence of this shift to the gaas strategy, some studios were diverted to gaas (bend) some studios had to start and cut gaas projects (ND) ... at this time we have sub-par sequels, remasters or remakes of real recent games or of games nobody asked for and Astro Bot (wich was great) ... if it wasn't for good second and third party deals from Asia this gen would be even more of a joke from Sony. If you change your focus as a company, even if it dosent directly affect some studios it sure can indirectly affect them at some form in manegement of projects.
hinch7
Member
I didn't say that it wasn't and that they weren't and aren't going to still make games.
This announcement is big news on their plans going forward. Not sure why you're being so abrasive about it.
Last edited: