TekunoRobby
Tag of Excellence
Xbox version for me, Live support is a huge plus for me.
Glad to see the two versions being so close in terms of quality.
Glad to see the two versions being so close in terms of quality.
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Burnout 3 - Xbox or PS2?
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I loved the GC versions before, including using the GC controller(precise analog sticks and shoulder buttons for gas/break). I'll rent the PS2 version. DS has the worst analog sticks/buttons really. I'm still skeptical that the change to grinding into other cars and crashing is going to take away the hook of Burnout, which is that 'on the edge/just barely missing" feeling.
Lord Error
Insane For Sony
Well, it's not like you can't just pop the disc and play the game from it when you want to play it online. Just having it installed there, so that you can play offline quicker, won't screw you up in any way.
Not that I don't believe you, but how did you find out that juicy piece of info?
Tap-tap? I guess it's just you
Btw, you can use the right stick to control the gas/brakes with more precision, although I find that completely unnecessary for an arcade racer like Bburnout.DaCocoBrova
Finally bought a new PSP, but then pushed the demon onto someone else. Jesus.
You must suck then, since you have to in order to drift.
If the PS2 version really doesn't support FF (a concept I'm having problems coming to terms with); then it will be a bit of a no brainer for those with both to go with the Xbox version.
Unfortunately however, My Xbox is consigned to the 24" widescreen in the bedroom, as there isn't room in the AV cabinet for it. It could sit outside but then the kids would wreck it. And besides the Mrs wouldn't stand for it; she doesn't like that we have to have 6 speakers in the lounge let alone having equipment littering the floor. So for me only the PS2 version comes with surround sound (albeit DPL2) and broadband, so thats the one I'll get.
Unfortunately however, My Xbox is consigned to the 24" widescreen in the bedroom, as there isn't room in the AV cabinet for it. It could sit outside but then the kids would wreck it. And besides the Mrs wouldn't stand for it; she doesn't like that we have to have 6 speakers in the lounge let alone having equipment littering the floor. So for me only the PS2 version comes with surround sound (albeit DPL2) and broadband, so thats the one I'll get.
AstroLad said:
I guess you don't like platform or bemani games, where I find the PS2 pretty well unbeatable?
It does annoy me a little bit (but I'm talking generally here not directing at AstroLad - though of course he sparked it off), that there now appears to be a generation of gamers who see games solely in shades of FPS, Shooters and Racing games; and can't see the Xbox's obvious genre limitations. Which is fine, it that's where you preferences lie; but not all gamers are the same.
gmoran said:
3-D Platformers? Hate them. Now Klonoa 2 was great, and Ico's art made it more than worthwhile. As far as music games, my favs are games like Samba, and I'm quite looking forward to Donkey Konga, the Bemani games do nothing for me at all. GC and X-Box are more than enough for me, but I do still keep my PS2 attached just in case, though I do find it quite ignorant of you to presume that I "see games solely in shades of FPS, Shooters and Racing games" simply because I prefer my multiplatform titles on X-Box and haven't been truly excited about a PS2 release in quite some time; I happily shelled out loads of cash supporting unique games such as buying two sets of Twin Sticks for the DC, maracas, etc. etc. etc., but I guess as soon as someone says "X-Box" you automatically assume they couldn't possibly have any interests outside of the genres you mentioned or, you know, actually own another system or three.
IGN Insider just posted videos of the game playing in 16:9 pro-scan mode for BOTH versions of the game and the visuals are nigh identical. Controller differences aren't a big factor for me... original Xbox controller ~= S-Controller ~= DS2 ~= to GC controller ~= DC Controller and so on... I just don't experience the same level of hypersensitivity to controller differences that some of you scream about and find I can get similar levels of accuracy/precision out of most modern controllers.
I'm tempted by the custom soundtracks option of the Xbox version since I've not been impressed by what I've heard of the EA Trax treatment the game got this time around, but I'll be getting the PS2 version for a few reasons:
1)I have more friends who own PS2s that I want to play this online with and the general online community for this is likely to be larger anyway, judging by past sales of the series on both platforms
2)I'll be honest, I love seeing what Criterion can do with the PS2. Since it causes me no significant compromises in my game experience to do so (except for the soundtrack, which I can live with, and may very well be wrong about), I can't help but support that kind of stand-out effort from a developer.
3)I've loved this series since the first game and fully expect this iteration to provide years of entertainment. Since we're in the twilight years of this generation and I'm not one to retain console hardware across generations, the greater likelihood that the PS3 will be BC with the PS2 than the XB2 is to be BC with the XB plays a small role here.
I'm tempted by the custom soundtracks option of the Xbox version since I've not been impressed by what I've heard of the EA Trax treatment the game got this time around, but I'll be getting the PS2 version for a few reasons:
1)I have more friends who own PS2s that I want to play this online with and the general online community for this is likely to be larger anyway, judging by past sales of the series on both platforms
2)I'll be honest, I love seeing what Criterion can do with the PS2. Since it causes me no significant compromises in my game experience to do so (except for the soundtrack, which I can live with, and may very well be wrong about), I can't help but support that kind of stand-out effort from a developer.
3)I've loved this series since the first game and fully expect this iteration to provide years of entertainment. Since we're in the twilight years of this generation and I'm not one to retain console hardware across generations, the greater likelihood that the PS3 will be BC with the PS2 than the XB2 is to be BC with the XB plays a small role here.
Lord Error
Insane For Sony
Well, when you say something like 'console XYZ sucks and has only one game I play', you should expect generalizations to come your way. I'm just surprised that you are willing to suport unique games, but are oblivious to the fact that PS2 probably has more such obscure but high quality games than any other console right now.
AstroLad said:
You didn't say quite some time, you said "years". Your comment was superfluous; it was there to put-down the PS2. Which I can't understand - with games like Amplitude, POP:SOT (multi-format but out on PS2 first, and graphically pretty well identical), Jal II, R&C2, Castlevania:LOI, Gradius V, SingStar, Katamari Damacy.
But as I said, it wasn't purely directed at you - there really are a generation of gamers out there who can't see why Xbox isn't enough.
Still anyone who likes Klonoa 2 can't be all bad, and obviously isn't just a FPS junkie.
Mike Works
Member
You must suck then considering you don't have to let go of the button in order to drift.DaCocoBrova said:
Lt.Frank_Drebin
Member
I don't know if it's been asked, but can XBox live users play versus the Ps2 online players ????????
(I dunno if it's me but, from what I remember after playing a LOT of time with Burnout 2 on XBOX, my right hand always started to hurt like hell, unlike on GC and PS2. But the developper's cut version on XBOX totally owned the competition.)
(I dunno if it's me but, from what I remember after playing a LOT of time with Burnout 2 on XBOX, my right hand always started to hurt like hell, unlike on GC and PS2. But the developper's cut version on XBOX totally owned the competition.)
Lt.Frank_Drebin
Member
I was thinking about the Colin Mcrae Rally 5 online thing. Codemasters confirmed a couples of weeks ago that Xbox live players will be able to race versus PS2 players.......
Lt.Frank_Drebin said:
I was thinking about the Colin Mcrae Rally 5 online thing. Codemasters confirmed a couples of weeks ago that Xbox live players will be able to race versus PS2 players.......
Really? That's interesting as MS was initially very adamant about XBL being a closed network to help "protect" it.... anybody else know of any cross-console playable games?
Lt.Frank_Drebin
Member
Well I pretty sure I've seen this. I'm searching where right now......
TekunoRobby
Tag of Excellence
Some of you are REALLY grasping at straws for reasons over which platform you want to get it for. Just say you like the PS2/Xbox better, no one is going to be angry for having a preference. In fact that's a great thing to go by, it'd make shopping easier for me by a landslide.
The point is that these two versions are so close and even identical in quality that merely flipping a coin would be a reasonable deciding factor.
The point is that these two versions are so close and even identical in quality that merely flipping a coin would be a reasonable deciding factor.
Lt.Frank_Drebin said:
I was thinking about the Colin Mcrae Rally 5 online thing. Codemasters confirmed a couples of weeks ago that Xbox live players will be able to race versus PS2 players.......
Are you sure? I thought EA said it wasn't possible to do that with online games right now?
Lt.Frank_Drebin
Member
GSG Flash said:
No, no I'm not sure.... The more I think about this, the more I think I've hallucinated....Cause like you guys said, the xbox live network is closed to competition.
Ferrarisimo
Member
DarienA said:
4x4 Evolution was cross-compatible between Dreamcast and PC.
Edit: And for the record, I'm getting the Xbox version. I have the PS2 version of Burnout 2, but between Xbox Live support, 5.1 audio, solid 480p support, and custom soundtracks, I'll get the Xbox version of BO3. Though I'm still pissed that neither the EA Trax or custom soundtracks are going to sound as good as the music in Burnout 2, which was 1) awesome, 2) unique to each track, and 3) changed in volume and the # of chords played depending on whether you were boosting or not.
Oh well.
gmoran said:
Heh, fair enough. The "years" was hyperbolic, I have to mention; ironically, PS2 gets nearly the most playtime by virtue of Winning Eleven alone, easily one of my favorite game series this gen. I also prefer the DS2 for SSX games (another great series), though I usually prefer the S-Pad by a bit. Of the games you mentioned, it's no fault of the PS2's, but I'm not a big fan of 3-D platformers at all. Gradius would be a pick-up, but since I barely have enough time for Ikaruga, my shmup time is basically filled. I don't have the time to play through the games I really love and am looking forward to, so clearly I can't play every "original" game that comes out, but of the ones that do, I usually gravitate more to the GC and I play my more "standard" games on the X-Box (mostly thanks to the controller and especially the hard drive) based on personal preference. Clearly, if you love 3-D platformers and rhythm games, among others, the PS2 is really tough to beat, but there's only so much time to go around.
Shompola said:
Yes, they could have done it with their sports series like Madden 2k5, I just don't understand why they didn' do it? Was it some sort of deal they had with MS? Or they just too stupid? There is nothing technical to stop them from doing it. May be if enough people start emailing them, they might consider it and patch it in?
wipeout364
Member
I am undecided. My Xbox has been acting up a bit, so it may sway me to the PS2 version.
For those that have played both, do the reflections in the XBOX version update at 60 frames per second like the PS2 version? I'm sure they do, but it's just that XBOX developers love to use more accurate cubic environment mapping on the cars while updating those at 30 fps. I can't imagine they would do that, though...
I will probably only rent the game, as there are too many releases on the way, but I'll probably play it on XBOX due to custom soundtracks.
I will probably only rent the game, as there are too many releases on the way, but I'll probably play it on XBOX due to custom soundtracks.
Lord Error
Insane For Sony
Dark, I think the reflections are updated at 60FPS on the Xbox version. On the flipside, I'm also pretty sure (developers words) that PS2 version uses cubic env mapping as well
DJ Demon J
Banned
MightyHedgehog said:
IAWTP
Marconelly said:Dark, I think the reflections are updated at 60FPS on the Xbox version. On the flipside, I'm also pretty sure (developers words) that PS2 version uses cubic env mapping as well
Perhaps you are right! The reflections are excellent looking!
I'd go so far as to say that Burnout 3 might be the very best looking arcade racer ever made. It is just so damn impressive in motion!
Model 3 fans should also be pleased as it just felt like some ultra enhanced Model 3 game or something! Blasting through that alley in the demo felt like something out of Daytona 2...only really enhanced!!!!
SolidSnakex
Member
Sp3eD said:
Much like with fighter sticks and fighting games, wheels always give you much more precise controls. So if anything, you'd do better with the wheel.
What he hell did they do to my Burnout?
I finally got to play the demo, yesterday. DAMN THEM!!! This is definately a case of graphics coming before gameplay.
-The camera angle was dropped to hide the reduced draw distance. The course turned a new corner every other second, so even if you could make out the traffic through the clutter, 3/4 of the course is blindly turning.
-The road width was reduced to artificially inflate the sense of speed. The freedom of weaving through taffic (what was there) was nearly gone.
-Where did the traffic go? There were a only a handful of civilian vehicles around. This was the staple of the series and it felt like no other street racer.
I was very dissappinted. The demo felt like the game was trying to be like NFSU, rather than staying true to the series. Please, please tell me that the demo is nothing like the final game, please. The demo made me cry.
I finally got to play the demo, yesterday. DAMN THEM!!! This is definately a case of graphics coming before gameplay.
-The camera angle was dropped to hide the reduced draw distance. The course turned a new corner every other second, so even if you could make out the traffic through the clutter, 3/4 of the course is blindly turning.
-The road width was reduced to artificially inflate the sense of speed. The freedom of weaving through taffic (what was there) was nearly gone.
-Where did the traffic go? There were a only a handful of civilian vehicles around. This was the staple of the series and it felt like no other street racer.
I was very dissappinted. The demo felt like the game was trying to be like NFSU, rather than staying true to the series. Please, please tell me that the demo is nothing like the final game, please. The demo made me cry.
WasabiKing
Member
SolidSnakex said:
Well, I don't think you need all that precision in BO3 which is more about ramming opponents than following the track. And the same can be said about Out Run 2 which is just "steer + break to drift without losing control however you may try".
It's like asking for a dedicated controller for Ace Combat 4. There is one, but does it really improve things? I don't think so.