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Call of Duty: Advanced Warfare |OT| House of CODs

I bought this game after having not played any Cods since the first Black Ops. I really thought I would like this one, but so far I'm experiencing the same frustrations as before. Bad spawns, bad lag, shady hitboxes. I really want to like this game, especially because the Exo suit is so fun, but I'm close to trading it in and getting Far Cry instead...I don't know man.
 

eek5

Member
So what's everyone using for scorestreaks?

I run UAV w/ Threat Detection, Longer Time, Support + Care Package w/ Double Roll, Better Odds, Support

I'm pretty high SPM so I get both at least once in TDM. Sometimes I'll roll over and get them twice but that's pretty rare.

I pretty much always get the map scorestreak with the CP / double roll which is pretty nice.

Sometimes I'll run Goliath at slot 3 or Sentry w/ AI + rockets + support. Rockets + pick off tripod is pretty good too. It's like a huge radius to kill smaw that you keep for ~4 shots before you lose it (you keep it through deaths!)
 
I bought this game after having not played any Cods since the first Black Ops. I really thought I would like this one, but so far I'm experiencing the same frustrations as before. Bad spawns, bad lag, shady hitboxes. I really want to like this game, especially because the Exo suit is so fun, but I'm close to trading it in and getting Far Cry instead...I don't know man.

Better wait for those reviews on far cry after how asscreed turned out.
 

Rodelero

Member
I switch between UAV or using none.
Not even using any grenades or even side arm.

Advanced Warfare offers more Create-A-Class customisation than any game in the franchise, but the choices aren't remotely compelling. It's just terrible game design, and it displays an enormous lack of understanding from Sledgehammer of the franchise's core qualities.

It's so rare that anyone stays alive for long enough to put together a sizable scorestreak that it simply doesn't feel worth spending a point on them, let alone three. The assault rifles are so versatile that it doesn't feel worth spending points on secondary weapons. The grenades and exo abilities both feel so weak that it's not worth spending points on them either.

How many different class permutations does this game offer? A long time ago I did some calculations and found that Modern Warfare 2 offered trillions, and this game blatantly offers a lot, lot more. Yet, the Create-A-Class system offers very little in the way of different playstyles. Arguably, many games which offer just a handful of completely static classes lead to more varied playstyles.
 

J.EM1

Member
Okay good. I'm not the only one using the UAV with extras. Haha

I don't live long enough for the higher scorestreaks.
 

The Beard

Member
Advanced Warfare offers more Create-A-Class customisation than any game in the franchise, but the choices aren't remotely compelling. It's just terrible game design, and it displays an enormous lack of understanding from Sledgehammer of the franchise's core qualities.

I agree with you. Secondary weapons near useless, Exo-Abilities are useless, Exo-Launchers are shit, Scorestreaks aren't exciting this time around, Primaries suck besides BAL, Hbrah, or Mors.

So many choices, but nothing really worth choosing.
 
I'm thinking about permanently switching to just search and destroy. Maybe it's my days of Socom and counterstrike, but this spawn behind you with 1.5 second respawns bullshit just gets grating after awhile
 

drotahorror

Member
I agree with you. Secondary weapons near useless, Exo-Abilities are useless, Exo-Launchers are shit, Scorestreaks aren't exciting this time around, Primaries suck besides BAL, Hbrah, or Mors.

So many choices, but nothing really worth choosing.

As much as I dog on this game every time I talk about it I'ma disagree with some of this.

The speed Exo Ability is awesome and lets me get back to the action even quicker (yeah the other ones are lackluster, but I had no interest in them anyway). The Exo semtex is amazing. Scorestreaks are a bit of a let down for sure. I wouldn't know about any of those primaries all I use is SMG's. The SMG's are solid.
 

Jblanks

Member
Yes, the camos for no perks and no attachments is more. But head shoots and others are less, nice trade IMO.

Too bad the camos are ugly as hell. What happened to the Blue/Red Tiger, or just the Red/Ice, Diamond camo from Blops2, Digital, and gold that actually looked good ..
 
I agree with you. Secondary weapons near useless, Exo-Abilities are useless, Exo-Launchers are shit, Scorestreaks aren't exciting this time around, Primaries suck besides BAL, Hbrah, or Mors.

So many choices, but nothing really worth choosing.
Exo-abilities are not worthless, just require practice. Shield, hover, health stim are all great for objective modes. Pro tip: hover can capture points in domination, so hover above and boost slam when fools come to get you. Timing is key, wait a couple seconds before using power. Shield great too, gives me those final seconds to cap.
 
Okay what the hell is going on with this game? These servers are either shit or people are lag switching every game. I have Open NAT, and while it's not the best connection in the world it should be enough. Or am I being punished for not having a lower than 10mbps connection? This getting ridiculous.


Yes, the camos for no perks and no attachments is more. But head shoots and others are less, nice trade IMO.

Knew, I wasn't going crazy. Just wish there were better looking camos.
 
Okay what the hell is going on with this game? These servers are either shit or people are lag switching every game. I have Open NAT, and while it's not the best connection in the world it should be enough. Or am I being punished for not having a lower than 10mbps connection? This getting ridiculous.
Hard to say but between lag/netcode/hit detection, the horrible spawn system and the shit audio design off the blocks I haven't seen a cod in worse shape than this one.
 

Joyful

Member
Okay what the hell is going on with this game? These servers are either shit or people are lag switching every game. I have Open NAT, and while it's not the best connection in the world it should be enough. Or am I being punished for not having a lower than 10mbps connection? This getting ridiculous.

no youre right, its pretty broken atm
 

The Beard

Member
Exo-abilities are not worthless, just require practice. Shield, hover, health stim are all great for objective modes. Pro tip: hover can capture points in domination, so hover above and boost slam when fools come to get you. Timing is key, wait a couple seconds before using power. Shield great too, gives me those final seconds to cap.

Ok, maybe they're not useless but IMO they aren't worth taking up a loadout point. I'd much rather use an extra Perk or extra gun attachment.
 
Advanced Warfare offers more Create-A-Class customisation than any game in the franchise, but the choices aren't remotely compelling. It's just terrible game design, and it displays an enormous lack of understanding from Sledgehammer of the franchise's core qualities.

It's so rare that anyone stays alive for long enough to put together a sizable scorestreak that it simply doesn't feel worth spending a point on them, let alone three. The assault rifles are so versatile that it doesn't feel worth spending points on secondary weapons. The grenades and exo abilities both feel so weak that it's not worth spending points on them either.

How many different class permutations does this game offer? A long time ago I did some calculations and found that Modern Warfare 2 offered trillions, and this game blatantly offers a lot, lot more. Yet, the Create-A-Class system offers very little in the way of different playstyles. Arguably, many games which offer just a handful of completely static classes lead to more varied playstyles.

Yea, you're pretty spot on on the CaC system and how the gun balance and scorestreaks are seriously flawed in design.

There are only two SMGs worth using, the only semi-auto AR is pointless because it kills in more than two hits, LMGs are as bad as BO1 LMGs, and shotguns are shotguns as usual. Your options for classes are severely limited when you look at it that way. Same thing with scorestreaks. Outside of UAV, I have no temptation to bother with higher streaks.
 

SapientWolf

Trucker Sexologist
Advanced Warfare offers more Create-A-Class customisation than any game in the franchise, but the choices aren't remotely compelling. It's just terrible game design, and it displays an enormous lack of understanding from Sledgehammer of the franchise's core qualities.

It's so rare that anyone stays alive for long enough to put together a sizable scorestreak that it simply doesn't feel worth spending a point on them, let alone three. The assault rifles are so versatile that it doesn't feel worth spending points on secondary weapons. The grenades and exo abilities both feel so weak that it's not worth spending points on them either.

How many different class permutations does this game offer? A long time ago I did some calculations and found that Modern Warfare 2 offered trillions, and this game blatantly offers a lot, lot more. Yet, the Create-A-Class system offers very little in the way of different playstyles. Arguably, many games which offer just a handful of completely static classes lead to more varied playstyles.
It's difficult to get a high streak in TDM, but the objective modes are a scorestreak fest. Which is fine, because it's not creating a situation where you reward the winning team with more easy points.

I don't understand why they don't allow exo abilities to recharge. They're not remotely overpowered or cheap.
 
It's difficult to get a high streak in TDM, but the objective modes are a scorestreak fest. Which is fine, because it's not creating a situation where you reward the winning team with more easy points.

I don't understand why they don't allow exo abilities to recharge. They're not remotely overpowered or cheap.
Some do recharge, just not very fast compared to your life expectancy of @10 seconds.
 

Gorillaz

Member
https://m.youtube.com/watch?index=1&v=he3SYemeHWY

As if they needed to do this, the spawns practically do it without exploitation.

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Duxxy3

Member
Advanced Warfare offers more Create-A-Class customisation than any game in the franchise, but the choices aren't remotely compelling. It's just terrible game design, and it displays an enormous lack of understanding from Sledgehammer of the franchise's core qualities.

It's so rare that anyone stays alive for long enough to put together a sizable scorestreak that it simply doesn't feel worth spending a point on them, let alone three. The assault rifles are so versatile that it doesn't feel worth spending points on secondary weapons. The grenades and exo abilities both feel so weak that it's not worth spending points on them either.

How many different class permutations does this game offer? A long time ago I did some calculations and found that Modern Warfare 2 offered trillions, and this game blatantly offers a lot, lot more. Yet, the Create-A-Class system offers very little in the way of different playstyles. Arguably, many games which offer just a handful of completely static classes lead to more varied playstyles.

I agree with a lot of your points. There are far fewer viable classes than there has ever been in a COD game. Outside of the UAV it is pointless to add any scorestreaks. The rest are simply unachievable. There is no point in taking a non-ar gun, or a secondary. Launchers are bordering on useless. Exo ability is a joke. Basically the game is down to just the primary and perks. And that is because...

the exo movement does not mesh with every other element in COD multiplayer. Streaks are not possible because there is no way to protect from random deaths. You die so quickly that you never need to switch to a second weapon. Players move way too fast for launchers to be effective.

I think that exo movement has a place in gaming, but I don't think that COD is the place for it. It nullifies too many elements that make COD what it is. It turns COD into a modern quake 3. For people that love quake 3 (myself included), the game is a blast to play. For people that grew up with and love the call of duty series, the game is incredibly frustrating and out of place. The classic playlist is nice, but it's very limited in modes, and it is obvious that the maps were made to be played with exo movement. It's not terrible, but for somebody looking for a normal COD game it is looking like they will be playing Black Ops 2 for the third straight year.
 
Is it just me who feel exo survivor is really bad? I beat the story mode on veteran and I want to plat the game but Flip Flap trophy is seem to be really hard.

It's so easy once you figure out the strategy and get an okay group. I was just playing for fun and flipped the map once by myself without any glitch tricks. Ended up quitting cause I got bored.

I only use specialist or heavy but basically I just find a good spot that doesn't allow enemies to flood in from every direction. Don't even bother with the objectives early on cause you'll most likely get killed. Upgrade weapon proficiency to about 6 or 7 ASAP. After that I max out armour then max out weapons. Once you get to around level 4+ armour you're basically unstoppable if you're decent at shooters.

The more annoying trophy to get is the bonus wave one on riot map. No way I was going to play 225 waves of that shit.
 

-TK-

Member
I have played and enjoyed every COD before this. I even liked the Ghost, but this game is just a garbage. What the fuck Sledgehammer did these 3 years? Did they even test this game, because it's almost broken.

- Spawns are the worst ever. They really want that everyone gets some kills, because you WILL get free spawn kills.. a lot. Just played a game where I got 25 free kills, because opponents just kept spawning in front of me.

- Lag compensation is so horrible

- Full of bugs and cliches. Freezing problems, people are shooting from behind walls etc.

- Sound problems

- Missing game modes they promised

- Horrible weapons and abilities. The balance is good, because almost everything is useless!

- I can understand why there no lobby leaderboards, but why the heck I can't even compare my stats to friends?

- In hardcore modes, you can't even see what scorestreak is selected, which is stupid. I bet this isn't even a feature. They just forgot it. And if your own teammates kills you, it will raise your death count. They have fixed this shit so many times before and it's here again!

+ 1080p and 60fps is pretty good

+ Maps are better than in Ghost (but still pretty horrible)
 

CorrisD

badchoiceboobies
New Patch, they still haven't fixed the Horizon map room bug, so stupid, still ruins every infection game on that map.
 
Who actually finds that fun? I find it hard to believe anyone would get even the slightest sense of accomplishment out of sitting in a corner, and alternating between shooting in one spot and reloading.

I guess the feeling of trolling is fun to them. Hopefully not to really win a game. Cause in that case they would be really pathetic fucks.
 

Pegasus Actual

Gold Member
New patch actually fixed lag for me. As in, for the first time ever, in 20 hours of playing, I had a lobby with mostly 3 - 4 bars all the way through for everyone, didn't feel janky at all. They may have actually fixed something this time, call me crazy.
 

CozMick

Banned
cant believe this had the potential to be the best cod in years.

instead we get the worst spawning system, the worst lag, the most bugs, the most unbalanced weapon, the worst sound and the worst co-op

Who would of thought a few years back that treyarch would be cods savior.
 

Brian Fellows

Pete Carroll Owns Me
New patch actually fixed lag for me. As in, for the first time ever, in 20 hours of playing, I had a lobby with mostly 3 - 4 bars all the way through for everyone, didn't feel janky at all. They may have actually fixed something this time, call me crazy.

So far two lobbies and two stable connections. Literally the first two I've had since launch.
 

fozzy

Member
Absolutely horrendous connection this morning on X1. I hate having to spend so long trying different game types and lobbies searching for a low ping.

I would literally play anything as long as it meant me feeling like I have a fair chance in a 1v1 gunfight.

Surely there must be a time when the developers realize that a server/host browser is the way to go.
 

geordiemp

Member
Same here, UAV and that's it. No secondary, but I usually equip one grenade or stun grenade. Get more use out of doubling up on perks.

Started at end of every game to switch to a class with hardwired and low profile.

I now expect every game 10 kills in the UAV spam with the annoying fuzzy spam on my screen to start blocking my hud.

Now competitor UAV is a total I do not care mode.

Lag is improved, but it is still there - I still get killed around corners and loose after 6-7 hits some times (but less frequently).

Only 2 guns worth using, connections not great, they really think people will stay for DLC - LOLZ...

Got quick scoped by someone in mid air last night using MORS and an acog - fix this shit.

How long is it before treyarc come back.....god we need them
 

Pat_DC

Member
Okay what the hell is going on with this game?

The first two days of release were terrible and then I tweaked some settings with my router and the game played really well. Now after this update the game is unplayable, really frustrating lining up a shot then teleporting into a wall and bouncing around to then be shot in the back. Also the ping bars seem really off now, as even when I or other players are lagging it now constantly shows 4 bars most of the time which can't be accurate.

This is with out doubt the worst net code/online experience I have ever had with a COD game which are usually rock solid.
 

Brian Fellows

Pete Carroll Owns Me
Connection SEEMS better but it doesn't really matter. These maps are just too damned small and overly complicated for my tastes. I'm still just trading deaths for kills every time and that is boring.
 
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