Don't play the campaigns so can't comment.MW3 considering the campaign was basically a few missions on the warzone map and the fact it just remastered 2009 MW2 maps for the multiplayer should have been a 49.99 MW2 (2022) expansion at launch. Calling it a mainline entry in the series and charging full price was an insult to the modern warfare franchise.
You're lucky. The multiplayer however was 15 year old maps at launch. Should have been $50 max.Don't play the campaigns so can't comment.
I'm fully aware. Like i said it took a couple of seasons to get going. Still ended up as one of the best recent COD's. I got my monies worth.You're lucky. The multiplayer however was 15 year old maps at launch. Should have been $50 max.
Well MWIII is awesome, so I hope so?previously meant as BO6 content. Seems like a MW3 situation all over again?
A year gap black ops… I'm honestly think this is gonna be a disaster just like MW3… cod needs a minimum 2 years between each modern warfare and black ops
Of course it was huge, it has Modern Warfare in the title, a reboot of the most popular CoD. Also, BR began in 2018 with Blackout, and Warzone has only made it bigger.MW2019 was huge. BR didnt release until the following march.
Your saying 2019's success was down to Blackout?Of course it was huge, it has Modern Warfare in the title, a reboot of the most popular CoD. Also, BR began in 2018 with Blackout, and Warzone has only made it bigger.
Nah, people have wanted a "year 2" of support for a long time, BOCW tested the waters with this by still having updates while vanguard was out. MWIII took it a step further and the carry forward was well received; if this model makes more post-launch money for activision they will damn well continue doing it; I can definitely see them having carry forward for zombies at least since it seems to be a direct sequel to the events of the final zombie map releasing soon.This is an odd departure from the regular too and fro between Black ops and Modern Warfare.
Same.Sigh... i will still probably purchase and play this.
But i have a feeling WAY more of my time going to be invested in BF6 this time around tho
I see. Well I sure hope whatever IW got cooking is somehow innovative. I'm fiending for Battlefield 6. Not so excited about BO7. We'll see though.Nah, people have wanted a "year 2" of support for a long time, BOCW tested the waters with this by still having updates while vanguard was out. MWIII took it a step further and the carry forward was well received; if this model makes more post-launch money for activision they will damn well continue doing it; I can definitely see them having carry forward for zombies at least since it seems to be a direct sequel to the events of the final zombie map releasing soon.
Well MW3 was a shit show at launch and months after as well. Only became good by the end of its year basically.Well MWIII is awesome, so I hope so?
But moreover it couldn't be "meant as BO6 content" because BO7 is not a sequel to BO6, completely different time periods, it's a sequel to BO2.
BO, BO5 and BO6 take place in the past.
BO3, BO4 and BO7 take place in the future
BO2 takes place in both.
The timeline is
1, 2, 5, 6, 2, 7, 3, 4
Only became good by the end of its year basically.
It's not that difficult for either to, for example, take a map that was previously meant for BO6, put some future tech-y looking decals here and there, and call it a day
MWIII got great by Season 2, season one wasn't bad either tbh. The content for the rest of the year was unmatched imo.Well MW3 was a shit show at launch and months after as well. Only became good by the end of its year basically.
And remember: for BO6 and 7 only the multiplayer (and Zombies) is handled by Treyarch. The singleplayer is done by Raven. It's not that difficult for either to, for example, take a map that was previously meant for BO6, put some future tech-y looking decals here and there, and call it a day*. Same goes for entire singleplayer content where they can phone it in (such as the open-zone missions in MW3 where they pretend it's Halo). I've always been a huge CoD-stan, and I even enjoyed BO4, but I haven't even bought any of the recent ones. It's just skill-based hell with these small maps and engagement-based challenges/unlocks.
*Not that there's anything wrong with using existing content that was already in the pipeline but I desperately want a return to from this franchise. I'm done with these lame ass maps (and auto-aim up the wazzoo and hyper ADD movement).
Why?Holy hell, there have been 52 CoD games thus far… let the IP take a long, long break.
Me too, been playing MP since CoD 2/3 waaayyyy back. SBMM has broken me, along with cheaters. BF being able to choose console only IS huge!Don't shoot the messenger lol. Can't say I'm too fussed this year either tbh. The SBMM has broke me.
If COD took a 5-7 year break, and they came back with Modern Warfare 4 as a PS6 title, the shit would be GTA6 level huge.Holy hell, there have been 52 CoD games thus far… let the IP take a long, long break.
THIS!!!!!If COD took a 5-7 year break, and they came back with Modern Warfare 4 as a PS6 title, the shit would be GTA6 level huge.
THIS!!!!!
MWII and GTA5 actually sold a similar amount over the first 3 days on sale. 2019 took 600 million. BOCW a similar amount. I don't think taking a seven year break makes much financial sense.If COD took a 5-7 year break, and they came back with Modern Warfare 4 as a PS6 title, the shit would be GTA6 level huge.
Fair enough. I liked some of the cell shaded stuff they added.MWIII got great by Season 2, season one wasn't bad either tbh. The content for the rest of the year was unmatched imo.
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If COD took a 5-7 year break, and they came back with Modern Warfare 4 as a PS6 title, the shit would be GTA6 level huge.
By what metric?THIS!!!!!
The only way they would ever consider a break is if people stopped buying the yearly offerings.If COD took a 5-7 year break, and they came back with Modern Warfare 4 as a PS6 title, the shit would be GTA6 level huge.
No. What i am saying is that CoD was falling down real hard. But then Blackout came out, and the IP cought the second wind. Then Warzone was released, and the IP got back at being extremely popular. MW2019 was popular, yes, but Warzone is what kept CoD in the spot light since. This ended over a year ago, and now it's just falling downhill real nicely. Unless they get their shit together, and begin actual innovation, it will keep falling, and sooner rather later, it might reach the Halo status.Your saying 2019's success was down to Blackout?
Nobody bought COD because of Blackout, it was just a cool mode within the game. People came back for MW2019 because it was a return to form. Then Warzone happened.
Disagree. 2019 sold mega because it was decent and it was MW, nothing to do with Blackout. Sure it had a long tail due to Warzone but it did gangbusters out of the gate, coming off the back of a poorly received BO4.No. What i am saying is that CoD was falling down real hard. But then Blackout came out, and the IP cought the second wind. Then Warzone was released, and the IP got back at being extremely popular. MW2019 was popular, yes, but Warzone is what kept CoD in the spot light since. This ended over a year ago, and now it's just falling downhill real nicely. Unless they get their shit together, and begin actual innovation, it will keep falling, and sooner rather later, it might reach the Halo status.
On what platform did you buy it on? Still easy to get into matches? I kind of want to get it myself but there's only a few thousand playing it on Steam.Chiming in with the others - MW3 was fantastic. I just bought it last week now that they removed it from COD HQ and was on sale for half price. TONS of content and super fun.
That being said, I plan to skip this one. BO6 was good but I didn't buy it and I just don't have high hopes for this one.
I think the plan for me going forward is not to get the latest COD, but rather wait until one of the CODs that is like 2 years old gets dropped from COD HQ and is on sale for 50% off. Then you get a great game, very active community, half the price, all the content already out for the game, and you don't have to deal with COD HQ. I'll likely pick up BO6 next year when it gets dropped from COD HQ and is half price, shortly before the next COD game comes out.
Also, I've got my eyes on BF6 later this year now that Steam is all you need and it looks like a proper return to form for the series.
But COD might have skins of all the Kardashians and Sesame Street characters right at launch!BF is gonna eat COD's lunch this year
They gotta stop these half-ass releases when their 3 rotating studios can't get a full game out.
What I would give for a game of the quality of the 'poorly received' Black Ops 4 right about now.Disagree. 2019 sold mega because it was decent and it was MW, nothing to do with Blackout. Sure it had a long tail due to Warzone but it did gangbusters out of the gate, coming off the back of a poorly received BO4.
I will Concede Blackout was pretty good but served more at a beta for Warzone.
The only thing that will kill COD btw is MS because they have zero idea what they are doing.
Yeah I quite liked it. I was trying to figure out how much it sold, but there's no numbers for it, at least I can't find any. Usually means it didn't break any records and the reviews seem to be on the lower end of the COD's. No Campaign didn't help, even though i don't give a toss about that personally.What I would give for a game of the quality of the 'poorly received' Black Ops 4 right about now.
It was the last Cod game designed to reward good players.Yeah I quite liked it. I was trying to figure out how much it sold, but there's no numbers for it, at least I can't find any. Usually means it didn't break any records and the reviews seem to be on the lower end of the COD's. No Campaign didn't help, even though i don't give a toss about that personally.
Last one before this new version of retention based match making kicked in.It was the last Cod game designed to reward good players.
What i am saying is that during its Blackout days, that is when CoD began recovering, and of course, next year, in 2019 when MW came out, it did even better. It's pre the introduction of BR/Blackout that the IP began suffering and feel ultra samey.Disagree. 2019 sold mega because it was decent and it was MW, nothing to do with Blackout. Sure it had a long tail due to Warzone but it did gangbusters out of the gate, coming off the back of a poorly received BO4.
I will Concede Blackout was pretty good but served more at a beta for Warzone.
The only thing that will kill COD btw is MS because they have zero idea what they are doing.
Steam. Very easy to get into matches, the community is very active for all of the COD games I own.On what platform did you buy it on? Still easy to get into matches? I kind of want to get it myself but there's only a few thousand playing it on Steam.
Yep, MW1 and Cold War had ray tracing but now none of the CODs have itThey are still releasing this on PS4 and Xbox One. 6 years later and they have not done anything more technically advanced than 2019's Modern Warfare. In fact, they have regressed.