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[diehard]

What are you playing on? Harriers get shot down like mad on PC because it only takes one hit.

EDIT: FAMAS also does two-thirds the damage that M16 does per bullet. The M16 also has a longer gap between bursts, as well has having higher recoil and shorter reload time.

is there a website for this data?

 

[Fugu]

There's a few websites out there and I'm wrong, the damage difference between the M16 and the FAMAS is 5:4; M16 does 35-50, FAMAS does 30-40.

 

[HooCares]

There's a few websites out there and I'm wrong, the damage difference between the M16 and the FAMAS is 5:4; M16 does 35-50, FAMAS does 30-40.

Not according to my sources.

Dmg is equal on the Famas and M16. Both at 40-30.

If If the m16 is in fact 35, then it's a 3 hit kill (or 1 burst) at long range without stopping power. It's easy to verify this in a private game.

 

[Stillmatic]

I was in a FFA match yesterday on sub base where there were around 6 people in there. I notice in the lobby a couple of players have titles you earn for nukes, their PSN's were 'DR_DEATH_DEMON' and 'DR_DEATH_ANGEL'. So the game starts and everyone's taking it slow, but i can hear the sound of a silenced weapon and one of the DR's killing the other pops on screen after, this happens for another 5 or so times, so i hunt out that sound. I find them both hidden away from the action with a tactical insertion on the ground, one killing the other over and over, so i shoot one and stab the other and they both leave. I'm guessing they were boosting for nukes? How desperate is that... :/

 

[Nizz]

WTF, I played a Merc Team Deathmatch on Rust last night. I never thought I'd see that map in a team game, only FFA.

But there it was, and it was the cluster-fuck I imagined. :lol

 

[RSTEIN]

WTF, I played a Merc Team Deathmatch on Rust last night. I never thought I'd see that map in a team game, only FFA.

But there it was, and it was the cluster-fuck I imagined. :lol

Yup, I got it last night too. First time.

 

[RavenFox]

What are you playing on? Harriers get shot down like mad on PC because it only takes one hit.

EDIT: FAMAS also does two-thirds the damage that M16 does per bullet. The M16 also has a longer gap between bursts, as well has having higher recoil and shorter reload time.

I take down Harriers with stingers with one hit on PS3.

 

[kissenger]

This is some pretty interesting stuff about the FAMAS and M16.

What is generally considered to be the best loadout?

I know that it is at least partially dependent on the map, but I remember in COD4 the best players always seemed to be using and M16 with a silencer and stopping power.

What is the equivalent in MW2.

Personally, I tend to go:

M16 with heartbeat, iron sights
PT2000 with red dot

Scavenger
Stopping power
Steady aim

 

[Animator]

-Fuck the SCAR and anyone who uses it.

Scar + silencer + stopping power > any other class.

 

[gillFTR]

This is some pretty interesting stuff about the FAMAS and M16.

What is generally considered to be the best loadout?

I know that it is at least partially dependent on the map, but I remember in COD4 the best players always seemed to be using and M16 with a silencer and stopping power.

What is the equivalent in MW2.

Personally, I tend to go:

M16 with heartbeat, iron sights
PT2000 with red dot

Scavenger
Stopping power
Steady aim

I personally hate the m16 ironsights always go red dot with it

 

[bigcappy]

I think MW2's Kill streak reward system has broken the game.

It absolutely has changed/solidified most peoples objective in the game to only care about their K/D ratio to get their highest streak reward.
I've played every Cod game since Cod1 and I've never seen it as bad as now. I agree that the maps really are to open in design for the most part which rewards those that sit back and build up their kill streak.

I don't know how they can fix this at this point. Other games had things like anticamp code but that won't work here.

I think Desert Combats' solution to limit specialized kits (rpg, sniper rifle) only being able to be picked up in the map itself was the best but I'm sure the outrage from Team snipers would be to loud.

They do need to adjust the scoring on Objective modes to reward the Team goal more then individual scores.

I wouldn't be opposed to kill streaks being removed from HC either honestly.

Absolutely have to agree on this point. I recall Bowling saying that he hated multiplayer achievements b/c people stop playing the game and start playing the to get the achievements.

Well, thats exactly what they've done with the custom killstreak rewards. People are boosting to get nukes and camping to get up to AC130 and Helicopter gunners. Can't believe they didn't see this in their internal testing.

I think they should have a "classic" playlist like the did in CoD4, except in this playlist you only get the original 3 killstreaks in CoD4.

 

[kissenger]

I personally hate the m16 ironsights always go red dot with it

Thing is, if you go with red dot you either have to dump heartbeat or scavenger (and use bling).

 

[The Librarian]

WTF, I played a Merc Team Deathmatch on Rust last night. I never thought I'd see that map in a team game, only FFA.

But there it was, and it was the cluster-fuck I imagined. :lol

I got it twice yesterday for the first time in the playlist.

 

[Lionheart1827]

I got it twice yesterday for the first time in the playlist.

Yeah I guess they added to team deathmatch express as well. I got it twice.

 

[Mr. Enigma]

Rust also shows up in Hardcore HQ.

 

[The Librarian]

I think I've used the holo sight enough to safely say that I prefer the red dot in the end.

 

[ACE 1991]

I think I've used the holo sight enough to safely say that I prefer the red dot in the end.

Agreed. The dot is simply too large.

 

[xxjuicesxx]

Shield sucks how the fuck can you guys like it? I still get shot no matter what I do in the feet or the side or naded or predator missiled, its just USELESS. Oh and MOST of the time it takes TWO hits to kill someone. WTF is that shit! a weaker melee for a MELEE weapon!?

 

[Khalifa Jayy]

I just unlocked the M16 and quickly got my longest killstreak to date on MW2. Fuck the FAMAS. :lol :lol

 

[UFRA]

I just unlocked the M16 and quickly got my longest killstreak to date on MW2. Fuck the FAMAS. :lol :lol

Spoiler

I had to.

 

[ThirstyFly]

I was in a FFA match yesterday on sub base where there were around 6 people in there. I notice in the lobby a couple of players have titles you earn for nukes, their PSN's were 'DR_DEATH_DEMON' and 'DR_DEATH_ANGEL'. So the game starts and everyone's taking it slow, but i can hear the sound of a silenced weapon and one of the DR's killing the other pops on screen after, this happens for another 5 or so times, so i hunt out that sound. I find them both hidden away from the action with a tactical insertion on the ground, one killing the other over and over, so i shoot one and stab the other and they both leave. I'm guessing they were boosting for nukes? How desperate is that... :/

Haha, that's awesome that you put an end to their "fun". Haven't seen that myself yet, but I'm going to keep an eye out for it now.

 

[Buggy Loop]

I've found the best class build ever guys! You're going to get the best K/D ratio ever with this, its almost cheating, try it out!

Primary - Riot shield
Secondary - Stinger
Equipment - Blast shield
Special - Smoke grenade

Perk 1 - Sleight of hand
Perk 2 - Stopping power
Perk 3 - Steady aim


I mean damn, OP total

 

[Domino Theory]

Completing High Explosive by yourself on Veteran is oh so satisfying. <3

 

[MarkMclovin]

This is some pretty interesting stuff about the FAMAS and M16.

What is generally considered to be the best loadout?

I know that it is at least partially dependent on the map, but I remember in COD4 the best players always seemed to be using and M16 with a silencer and stopping power.

What is the equivalent in MW2.

Personally, I tend to go:

M16 with heartbeat, iron sights
PT2000 with red dot

Scavenger
Stopping power
Steady aim

M16, Silencer, Red Dot, Cold Blooded, Ninja = Unstoppable especially in Hardcore modes. With the M16, I feel like I don't need Stopping Power or Steady Aim. 1 burst - Dead. You might need 2-3 bursts if firing from the hip, depending how far away they are.

 

[Tokubetsu]

Is it just me or did shotguns get ridiculously fucking popular in like, the past 3 days?

 

[remz]

Is it just me or did shotguns get ridiculously fucking popular in like, the past 3 days?

Dual wielding 1887s everywhere :'(

 

[Domino Theory]

Is it just me or did shotguns get ridiculously fucking popular in like, the past 3 days?

SPAS12 + Steady Aim = Sniper-rifle range with Nuke-like damage.

 

[Koojay]

I've found the best class build ever guys! You're going to get the best K/D ratio ever with this, its almost cheating, try it out!

Primary - Riot shield
Secondary - Stinger
Equipment - Blast shield
Special - Smoke grenade

Perk 1 - Sleight of hand
Perk 2 - Stopping power
Perk 3 - Steady aim


I mean damn, OP total

Holy OP batman.

Just got a nuke with this, dahmn.

 

[Domino Theory]

Holy OP batman.

Just got a nuke with this, dahmn.

For a Riot Shield class, replacing Steady Aim with Commando would make more sense, no?

 

[MarkMclovin]

I've found the best class build ever guys! You're going to get the best K/D ratio ever with this, its almost cheating, try it out!

Primary - Riot shield
Secondary - Stinger
Equipment - Blast shield
Special - Smoke grenade

Perk 1 - Sleight of hand
Perk 2 - Stopping power
Perk 3 - Steady aim


I mean damn, OP total

Why sleight of hand, steady aim and stopping power? You still need 2 hits with the shield don't you? You'd be far better off swapping steady aim for commando, sleight of hand for marathon and stopping power for cold blooded or light weight (unless it does actually only take 1 kill)

 

[Princess Carl]

Why sleight of hand, steady aim and stopping power? You still need 2 hits with the shield don't you? You'd be far better off swapping steady aim for commando, sleight of hand for marathon and stopping power for cold blooded or light weight (unless it does actually only take 1 kill)

he was joking

 

[Khalifa Jayy]

I can't believe people didn't pick up on that sarcasm... :lol

 

[jonnybryce]

I think MW2's Kill streak reward system has broken the game.

It absolutely has changed/solidified most peoples objective in the game to only care about their K/D ratio to get their highest streak reward.
I've played every Cod game since Cod1 and I've never seen it as bad as now. I agree that the maps really are to open in design for the most part which rewards those that sit back and build up their kill streak.

I don't know how they can fix this at this point. Other games had things like anticamp code but that won't work here.

I think Desert Combats' solution to limit specialized kits (rpg, sniper rifle) only being able to be picked up in the map itself was the best but I'm sure the outrage from Team snipers would be to loud.

They do need to adjust the scoring on Objective modes to reward the Team goal more then individual scores.

I wouldn't be opposed to kill streaks being removed from HC either honestly.

You're right, I didn't even realize it's not just the maps, it's people obsessing over the kill streaks. Which means not even maps will help

I a basketball court map. Try camping/hiding now, bitches!

 

[The Librarian]

Dual wielding 1887s everywhere :'(

Yup. It's ridiculous.

 

[NYR]

he was joking

Comedy in this thread is not a good idea - a lot of noobs/people come to this thread for info and tips, just a bad idea not to state it is not actual advice, only leads to more terrible players who get frustrated and quit...

 

[Tokubetsu]

Me and Eric have started a new clan guys. Everyones welcome to join. KIMBO SHOTTY, tag is [KMBO] Here's our mascot:

I'm thinking the logo will be something like his bearded face all big n shit and then either 2 shotguns crossed underneath it or his arms crossed.

 

[xxjuicesxx]

Just ran around Favela with my Akimbo 1887s, much better after trying the shit shield earlier!

 

[Tokubetsu]

Ran into this at a certain other forum, thought it was hilarious:

 

[Fugu]

Comedy in this thread is not a good idea - a lot of noobs/people come to this thread for info and tips, just a bad idea not to state it is not actual advice, only leads to more terrible players who get frustrated and quit...

I don't know, it's pretty obvious. If stopping power didn't give it away, steady aim should have.

 

[Net_Wrecker]

OH MY GOD. The default First Recon class is BEAST. I'll never be afraid to Prestige as long as that thing is there. I wanted to try the tactical knife, and I RAPED on Favela going 31-2, and 4 kills away from launching a nuke when the game ended cutting me short. I have never cut through a room of 3 people that quickly in my life.

 

[CrazedArabMan]

Ran into this at a certain other forum, thought it was hilarious:

Yep, I seriously think they should of not allowed people to knife when they akimbo, but whatever.

 

[BigJonsson]

That means he knifes with his cock :|

 

[Relix]

So... I was just part of a game where my team won

7500-1900

Yeah...

 

[Red Blaster]

Akimbo 1887s is some of the most retarded shit ever.

Why even use anything else.

Yeah fuck that cockshit, its ruining the game.

 

[vatstep]

Ran into this at a certain other forum, thought it was hilarious:

The whole reason I hadn't tried akimbo weapons yet was because I assumed you wouldn't able to knife. That's just retarded. Now I know I'll be giving them a shot, though!

 

[IcebergSlim3000]

You know I had the same exact issues you guys are talking about 3 day's after it came out. Ive decided to sell it on craigslist. None of the maps are fun. They promote camping and are way to open. Killstreaks from care packages break the game. Getting killed with just a couple of bullets is frustrating. I bought this specifically for the multiplayer and now I feel completely jipped.

 

[-Pyromaniac-]

I noticed that too. In the past 2-3 days I've seen a HUGE amount of people with the akimbo 1887s. What the hell is with that.

And I 100% agree with the maps not being fun. Or at least most of them.

They are WAYYYY too open. In my favourite mode (search and destroy), 90% of the time it is nothing but absolute luck. There are so many avenues in which an enemy can pop out from that it is simply impossible to have them all covered as you move forward. What else is there? Camp or become someone's bitch. But if you camp in S&D it kind of ruins that mode.

I loved playing it in COD4 and world at war. I still play it but I am not enjoying it that much. More frustration than enjoyment. Just nothing else to play.

 

[Papercuts]

I noticed that too. In the past 2-3 days I've seen a HUGE amount of people with the akimbo 1887s. What the hell is with that.

And I 100% agree with the maps not being fun. Or at least most of them.

They are WAYYYY too open. In my favourite mode (search and destroy), 90% of the time it is nothing but absolute luck. There are so many avenues in which an enemy can pop out from that it is simply impossible to have them all covered as you move forward. What else is there? Camp or become someone's bitch. But if you camp in S&D it kind of ruins that mode.

I loved playing it in COD4 and world at war. I still play it but I am not enjoying it that much. More frustration than enjoyment. Just nothing else to play.

What's up with that? Well, they're completely broken, so once more people learn about it they'll join the pack and use them too.

 

[BruceLeeRoy]

Me and my friends are trying to set this up for some LAN warfare and it appears that we can
only do one person per system with no split-screen. There has to be something I am doing wrong right?

 

[Magik]

The Kill Streaks are definitely ruining the experience of MW2 especially in the HC modes. They're just too overpowered and just plain annoying.

Hopefully IW will be able to adjust the settings of the Kill Streaks.