divisionbyzorro
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Graf Nudu said:
The real kick in the balls is when you respawn and instantly knife the air.
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The real kick in the balls is when you respawn and instantly knife the air.
Patrick Bateman
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Hand's down and this is completely true: I never played a game in MW2, yet, where I had a full green connection.
DeuceMojo said:
You owe me a coke!
divisionbyzorro said:
Of course, it couldn't be - you know - piss poor netcoding with trashy netcoding where you're actually shooting someone on your screen over and over, just to watch them turn around and one shot you. They you see the kill cam and you're unloading on the wall next to them :lol
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I think a major issue is that without an actual health bar or %, you don't know how much damage you're actually doing.DeuceMojo said:
There are so many times where I see the little "x" on my screen indicating a hit like 4-5 times and the guy doesn't drop, only to seemingly get dropped in just 2 shots. Of course the gun and perks you using matter, but should any gun suck so badly that it can't kill someone in 5 hits to the chest?
Some kind representation of health beyond screen jam or redness (like an actual number or graphic) would make a lot of these "WTF" situations at least understandable.
Another minor, but "WTF" glitch.divisionbyzorro said:
This game screams "Didn't have enough time to polish it".
VGChampion
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Does anyone here actually like the campaign? I didn't really care for the story but I did enjoy the main characters stories. I thought all of the levels themselves were really well done.
And actually, that sort of goes with everything. I find a lot of the glitches funny and think the whole game is a well done package. I'm addicted to the multiplayer still.
And actually, that sort of goes with everything. I find a lot of the glitches funny and think the whole game is a well done package. I'm addicted to the multiplayer still.
PetriP-TNT
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I like the parts where there are only 1-2 enemies on screen at once but IW tends to send that atmosphere down the crapper every chance they get. No IW, random enemies spawning to every direction from you does not equal fun.VGChampion said:
Frencherman
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PetriP-TNT said:
Like I said before, IW is the Michael Bay of the video game indudstry...
Bumblebeetuna
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RubxQub said:
Why does this make them unworthy of any praise? They still shipped an incredible game that will be the most played game on Live and PSN for quite awhile. Who gives a fuck about some glitches, all online games launch with glitches, whether there was a beta or not. At least they've been fixing problems with a quickness.
The only problem I have with the game is the 1887 Akimbo being so utterly ridiculous. I have 3 days of play time in the MP and I haven't even seen most of the stuff listed
Freeza Under The Shower
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VGChampion said:
In terms of presentation and gameplay variation, this would hold true.
However, I find the game has the same issues that came with all CoD's and these ancient. not of this day age practises clash directly with what the game is aiming for in terms of presentation.
Even more telling is that the heavy reliance on scripting meant IW could not have co-op for the campaign, whereas Treyarch did for WaW. The only difference in terms of AI is that in WaW everyone is running through everyone and in MW characters tend to do stop 'n pop until enemies run out or the player moves forward.
In retrospect, I find that Treyarch was more in tune with its theme than MW2 is. Also, just because IW is better at hiding its flaws doesn't make Treyarch any worse of a developer and it's about time people start treating Treyarch as a equal party to IW. They have done their time with the franchise and IW isn't doing a truelly better job than they are.
strikeselect
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Why doesn't Activision just drop IW all together? Just let Treyarch make all the CoD games.
Only then will we have glitch free, balanced and innovative CoD games.
Stupid Infinity Ward.
Only then will we have glitch free, balanced and innovative CoD games.
Stupid Infinity Ward.
Pkm said:
careful said:
fair enough, KZ2 controls are designed to be mastered and you'll feel satisfied and rewarded with every kill along the way in the game as long as you have the patience/skill to devote a couple of hours to get comfortable with the realistic inertia and weight. On the other hand CoD is designed so even my cat can kill right off the bat (auto-aim, snap in-out, twitchy all the way), in my opinion of course.
Patrick Bateman
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ACESandEIGHTS
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There was a lot of that in COD4 too. But probably far more in this game since knifing seems... better.divisionbyzorro said:
It's gonna be hard not having a knife that reaches 15 yards...
water_wendi
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Graf Nudu said:
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Here is what they were referring to..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ytCEuuW2_A
Odrion said:
yeah, no shit, imagine Street Fighter with auto-combos / auto-ultras and all, it would be so lame and shallow, that's CoD approach to controls. No skill, fire and kill... or camp and kill. That's the reason the game is full of kids, I never heard a kid's voice playing KZ2 but every MW2 game has a couple of 12 year olds on it. IMO.
divisionbyzorro
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Lince said:
Ah, the good ol' "if it's not difficult to use, it's noobish" bullshit. Look, you're certainly entitled to your opinion, but in this man's opinion, KZ2's controls were ass.
ACESandEIGHTS
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Cerrius said:
Oh, HAL no. No he dih-ent. :lol
strikeselect
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A beta doesn't guarantee that these problems would be found. It took over a month with millions and millions of kiddos online to find stuff like the infinite ammo exploit. No QA team can compete with the Jimmy Schoolboys of the world playing 8+ hours a day, 7 days a week.
IW most likely had no input on whether or not a public beta would run. These "betas" on the console side aren't even real betas anyway. They're just public demos used for building awareness of the product (aka MARKETING). Which brings me to Activision (You know, the ones that own the CoD franchise, distribute the games, market them, provide the funding, etc. etc.) Whatever IW does in regards to marketing their CoD games has to come with direct approval from the publisher (aka ACTIVISION). After all, Activision owns the Call of Duty license and they call the shots on how they want to reveal and market their games NOT IW.
But sure, blame Infinity Ward. Viva Treyarch.
so when is this magic patch coming to the PS3? I might come back then to check it out, specially if they fix the OMA bullshit with the infinite supply of nades. Everyone is doing either that or just running around with the RPG + Danger close or the 1887s... seems like Quake :lol
ALeperMessiah
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Cerrius said:
You're joking right? You must be, did Treyarch ever fix the getting under the map glitches in WaW? I know you could still do it 6+ months after release.
ACESandEIGHTS
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Oh Peach SCHNAPPPPPPS, son, you pretty much nailed that shit.noire said:
OK as far as kicks in the ol' balls go:
Last night, mahfuckah in Demolition on Favela knocks me down into Final Stand in the upper corner of the map where the bomb point is, opposite the street side. So I manage to get one shot off at him with my shotgun while I'm down.
Then he sidesteps away up the stairs to a rooftop to clean all the strawberry jam off his camera lens, and in f'ing AWESOME Halo-fashion, he LEAPS to the side off this roof and looks like f'ing Spiderman with his legs all tucked up under him looking down at me and getting a bead on me right before I blast him in mid air with a dead-on shotgun hit and send his shit flying like a crash test dummy.
It's times like these you're all like "where is the motherfucking save-a-replay option?"
divisionbyzorro
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Lince said:
They won't change that. There are enough counters to that tactic as it is, and that style of play so streaky its unreliable. Sure, some games you go 28-2, but most games you go 10-14. It only seems useful on HQ, but everyone wears (or should wear) blast shields in that mode anyway.
Freeza Under The Shower
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Cerrius said:
I certainly had no intention of claiming such a thing. Activision needs yearly versions of CoD. IW and Treyarch produce them. And that's that.
(and they both come with many bugs)
But there is very little ground (left) in my view for the communities at large to claim one as (vastly) superior to the other. Their difference in approach produces slightly different products with their own pros and cons (how much can they really change in two-year dev cycles?) and are valued for different reasons, but they are valued nonetheless. (and if sales are representative of value, that would be a lot of it)
divisionbyzorro said:
yes the blast shield helps a lot in some situations (I used it with my riot shield class) but the rifle tubes are so annoying when you are trying to capture a zone in Domination and two guys are camping there with OMA and noob tubing everything that moves.
Jesus fucking christ they need to fix the matchmaking.
I was online last night with 3 other friends, and we were looking for a game for TWENTY (20) minutes. We found one after 15, but we got disconnected right after we got in.
Also, every 3rd person team tactical is a fucking glitched game on rust. FIX THIS SHIT IW!
I was online last night with 3 other friends, and we were looking for a game for TWENTY (20) minutes. We found one after 15, but we got disconnected right after we got in.
Also, every 3rd person team tactical is a fucking glitched game on rust. FIX THIS SHIT IW!
I wouldn't go that far to call this game a software failure, I believe most of the concerns are poor design decisions... and the glitches, oh well, we have legions of kids dedicated to find these obscure things in every high-profile competitive online game released, the QA team should hire a dozen of these kids for their future project. I just hope the next patch is the definitive one so I can have the same fun I was having the first weeks.
Patrick Bateman
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Number 2 said:
I know, it was just another sound to fit the situation.
Bumblebeetuna
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Lince said:
KZ2 has realistic inertia and weight? You can float backwards when you jump like in Halo and all the guns are just as slow and sluggish as one another. In other words if I am running around with a handgun I should be a lot faster in movements as well as shouldering/aiming but that simply doesn't happen in KZ2, unless they've patched it yet again since last I played.
Furthermore the controls aren't a hindrance like they are in KZ2. Your cat will certainly be able to move around fluidly in MW2 thanks to controls that are well designed but that has nothing to do with being able to kill. Anyways don't wanna turn this into some comparison thing so I won't say anything more on KZ2.
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divisionbyzorro said:
That's not my point. My point was that they knew it was going to be played by millions upon millions of people well in advance, thus they should've beta tested it to at least correct some balancing issues and some of the more glaringly obvious bugs/glitches. A 2 week beta test could've gone a long way to making MW2 a better product day 1, instead of this clusterfuck of patchworking that is currently going on.
Weird offshoot of the private match XP glitch:
* I got tossed into a Domination game where EVERYONE is red/enemy (this means everyone in the game shows up on radar, killstreak screens, has auto-aim on them).
* The scoreboard shows up looking similar to the yellow free-for-all names.
* You cannot kill people that have the same model/side as you, and there are clearly two teams showing on the UI.
* You could kill 'enemy' players that were on the opposite side.
* The point system was a mix of kills and domination points.
It was chaotic. People would try to kill their teammates, but couldn't. So then you'd run out to try to capture points and get killed by others. So some people were like, why is everyone invincible?!
* I got tossed into a Domination game where EVERYONE is red/enemy (this means everyone in the game shows up on radar, killstreak screens, has auto-aim on them).
* The scoreboard shows up looking similar to the yellow free-for-all names.
* You cannot kill people that have the same model/side as you, and there are clearly two teams showing on the UI.
* You could kill 'enemy' players that were on the opposite side.
* The point system was a mix of kills and domination points.
It was chaotic. People would try to kill their teammates, but couldn't. So then you'd run out to try to capture points and get killed by others. So some people were like, why is everyone invincible?!
WrenchNinja
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When is the beta over. I got tired of the annoying spawning system. :lol
DevelopmentArrested
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J-Rzez said:
You've been trolling this game since day one. Your shtick is getting old.
P.S. 5 days playtime in Hardcore modes - seen one or two glitches at MOST in that entire time. Doesn't happen in HC game types.
LabouredSubterfuge
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DevelopmentArrested said:
Darn tootin'.
Also, with all the bitching that goes on, my biggest gripe is whenever i force myself to play Domination or Sabotage or Capture the flag, it's the biggest cluster fuck ever. People just run around killing each other since they don't see the incentive in, you know, completing the objective.
IW needs to work on incentivising the objective-based games so that people don't just sit around massaging their K/D ratio.
BruceLeeRoy
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I got absolutely raped last night.
There was this dude running around with Marathon | Lightweight | and sporting 2 shotguns that could not be stopped. I stayed in every game he was in just to try and get revenge but he made me pay over and over and over again.
Have you even played the game? If your not playing it on the easiest setting that is absolutely impossible to pull off.
Only shooter that I bought that I couldn't even bring myself to finish the campaign. MP however, has its claws firmly in place.
There was this dude running around with Marathon | Lightweight | and sporting 2 shotguns that could not be stopped. I stayed in every game he was in just to try and get revenge but he made me pay over and over and over again.
Chrange said:
Have you even played the game? If your not playing it on the easiest setting that is absolutely impossible to pull off.
VGChampion said:
Only shooter that I bought that I couldn't even bring myself to finish the campaign. MP however, has its claws firmly in place.
Lince said:
fair enough, KZ2 controls are designed to be mastered and you'll feel satisfied and rewarded with every kill along the way in the game as long as you have the patience/skill to devote a couple of hours to get comfortable with the realistic inertia and weight. On the other hand CoD is designed so even my cat can kill right off the bat (auto-aim, snap in-out, twitchy all the way), in my opinion of course.
Lulz.
Walking on solid ground shouldn't feel like walking in a swamp.
That inertia isn't realisitc either. Very exagerrated and overdone. I can see it being a nice addition if your swinging your entire body around to engage a target behind you or completely to your side. But when all I want to do is aim at a new target a couple of feet away from wher I'm already aiming, it shouldn't take so long for the gun to move such a small distance and it shouldn't swing way passed the target as well once it does finally reach the target zone.
This, and only this, absolutely killed all the excitement I had for this game.
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