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[Victrix]

Creek was a horrible sniper filled, cave covering, ridge bombing nightmare

Overgrown was an awesome sniper hunting map

I miss Bloc though. Not the map so much (though sniper hunting was fun on there too), but I want more ruined Russian maps. Wasteland does not fill the necessary Stalker/Pripyat quota

edit: I haven't seen any difference in actual recoil patterns on walls from silencers. They DO remove/reduce muzzle flash, which gives you a clearer view of your target, and that can make it feel like you have more control over the gun.

 

[FerranMG]

I can't think of worse cod4 to be added.

I liked crash and overgrown, but shipment and vacant? Really?
Vacant is the map I hated the most. And shipment wasn't much better either.

 

[Brian Fellows]

I like all those choices for the retro map pack except Shipment. Then again I never played shipment in a public game. Only played it in a few private matches. I don't even know what modes used it. I'd rather have Pipeline of Broadcast.

 

[wud]

@ wud:
I thought Grip toned down the recoil and didn't impact damage. I'm guessing you're implying that Grip just makes it that much more effective?

really? Because I've always felt more for the AA-12 and clearing out 2-3 guys coming right after one another due to the automated part of the gun. The range seems fair to me, as a shotgun should be, but it does feel kinda weak at times. Having to shoot twice at anything more than really close range with the AA-12 compared to once with a SPAS or the mangod M1014 is it's weakness.

Grip reduces recoil on the shotguns a stupid amount which makes the overall package of SPAS + stopping power that much tighter. If you like the AA-12 and have a bling-pro class, have it with grip + extended mags

Heres a vid showing the damage the SPAS can do - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNaggRLHBH0

Does anyone here use the Mini-uzi much? Started using it as my primary weapon on my shotgun class and its a beast. Got a game winning kill on a round of S&D the other day - sprayed two guys running in a line and got a double kill, was quality :lol

 

[Pyke Presco]

I think those are really good choices for the retro pack(aside from Shipment, which is way too small). Some of the levels just wouldnt work with the new killstreaks, such as Bog(too open), Shipment(too small) or Showdown(no cover. The chopper gunner bullets will be able to reach you anywhere on the map except for the two middle tunnels. Upstairs wont protect you due to CGs being able to fire close to an opening and still kill you.)

Vacant is a great map. Theres a couple holes in the roof and some windows to shoot people if they get to close to the edges, but overall theres a lot of air cover so killstreaks wont ruin it. Has the long sightlines for snipers that want to shoot down hallways or by the loading dock, and lots of narrow corridors for knife runner/shotgun mayhem.

Crash was one of my favorite maps out of CoD4, along with Ambush, Bog and Crossfire. Its another one where air sightlines arent great but ground level has plenty of combat options.

Overgrown is an ok pick, but I would have preferred Pipeline for a bigger map. However, aside from Wasteland and Derail there arent any really big maps that are well suited to snipers, so I suppose we have to toss those guys a couple levels. Can't wait to knife run up to stone bridge sniper fence or wood bridge busted building and tear through like 4 guys with their backs turned. Good times.

EDIT: I think the best levels out of CoD4 for a retro pack[based on absolutely nothing except opinions on what should be ok, but really dont know because of the new perks and air support] would be Crash, Pipeline, Vacant, Crossfire, Downpour and yet again Chinatown/Carentan.

Please do not give us Shipment, Bog, Ambush, Wet Work, Creek or Countdown.

The others should be ok, and theres plenty of "just ok" maps already, so whatever.

vvv Hahaha...no, Shipment is not even close to the size of Rust. Think more 1/4 to 1/3 of that size and then you'll be on the right track. It would be an absolute shitshow with runners, and a single AC130 shot could hit either everybody in the middle t or on the outside along those lines(if it got aimed right in the middle of the map between the boxes) or an entire half of the map on the outside.

 

[PetriP-TNT]

Shipment should be the same size as Rust? The three other maps are great choices, especially Vacant. I haven't played that much of COD4 but I loved Vacant

 

[BlaneH]

Is anyone else here with me feeling that this game takes absolutely no skill anymore, and completely depends on how good your spawns are and how much you'll let yourself camp in a corner or in a bush or near a doorway waiting for someone to run by?

I feel quite skillful when I shoot people halfway across the map on Afghan cause their tiny monkey brain can't help but stand on the cliff and look at the pretty plane.

 

[Brian Fellows]

I feel quite skillful when I shoot people halfway across the map on Afghan cause their tiny monkey brain can't help but stand on the cliff and look at the pretty plane.

On Estate I like shooting snipers in the house from the roof of the low flat building at the bottom of the hill.

 

[Keylime]

I never played any of the CoD4 maps...so I'm going to have quite a bit of catching up to do if/when those things get released...

Bah.

 

[Dra-Q]

The best map is Terminal, right GAF?

 

[wud]

The best map is Terminal, right GAF?

Terminal, Afghan, Invasion and Wasteland in that order

the rest are gash

 

[TheThunder]

Man Wasteland and Estate have got to be one of the worst maps ever created in an fps, especially Wasteland which is pointless for a 6v6 game.

 

[F#A#Oo]

Holy shit...I started playing with headphones OMG...I feel like I'm cheating...I can HEAR EVERYTHING! I went 34-3... I could have had a nuke and that's running and gunning...

The sounds in the game are also more alive...I jumped when I heard my first frag exploding next to me!:lol

UMP45+Silencer is deadly...

 

[winnarps]

Need some help.

Whenever I party up with my friends on X360, I always get 1 red bar in games.

Whenever I play by myself, I get 3-4 green bars.

Anyone else have this issue? I live on the east coast and almost all of the guys I play with are nearby.

I've tried resetting my Xbox, my router, cable modem, etc. Nothing seems to help.

 

[Ikuu]

So basically the people that one man army their tubes, fuck you.

That is all.

All I ever use these days.

 

[Arjen]

The best map is Terminal, right GAF?

Agreed, love that map

 

[BrLvgThrChmstry]

Nice list of Retro maps, I'm ok with all of them (Especially Vacant and Crash; brilliant maps).

 

[Az]

Was playing TDM last night and some "clan" decided to make fun of my user name calling me assrim (at which I did laugh tbh) so I decided to nuke them. Nuke #24

 

[divisionbyzorro]

Was playing TDM last night and some "clan" decided to make fun of my user name calling me assrim (at which I did laugh tbh) so I decided to nuke them. Nuke #24

Can you stop rubbing it in? I'm still at 3.

 

[AwesomeSyrup]

The best map is Terminal, right GAF?

Sub Base. <_<

 

[Jamesearlcash]

I think crossfire would have been a great addition to mw2, I prefer long and thin maps to square ones.

 

[Keylime]

Holy shit...I started playing with headphones OMG...I feel like I'm cheating...I can HEAR EVERYTHING!

I've been trying to preach it!

With headphones on it's literally impossible to sneak up on me unless you're crouched or using Ninja.

What the most frustrating thing is is when I'm rocking my usual Ninja build and some fool on my team decides to follow me around the map sounding like a herd of elephants...not to mention blocking me as I'm trying to move.

 

[Lince]

quick question, what's the bandwidth requirement (upload) for hosting a 12p game?

 

[pringles]

Sub Base. <_<

I like Sub Base but it's a pretty poorly designed map. 95% of the battles take place between A and B. That whole area over by C is almost never used, except for some lame campers on the rooftops occasionally.

 

[winnarps]

Headphones with SitRep Pro. Definitely worth leveling up, but it's more tedious than the FMJ challenges.

 

[JonAmikar]

What's a good class to use with the UMP + Silencer?

 

[beast786]

We’ve updated the PC version of Modern Warfare 2, including the following fixes:

- Care Package, Emergency Airdrop, and Sentry Gun marker grenades sprint speed normalized.
- Sentry Guns: Improved placement detection, preventing cases of Sentry Guns inside geometry.
- Model 1887: Bling using Akimbo and FMJ combination now has same range and damage as non-Bling Model 1887s.
- Improved player collision removing cases of getting into geometry and ‘elevators’.
- Mouse latency tweaks for more mouse movement consistency. (PC-ONLY)
- Fixes to prevent various texture hacks (PC-ONLY)
- Fix to prevent various XP hacks, including the prevention of obtaining negative XP.

These fixes, excluding the ones I’ve labeled as (PC-ONLY), are currently in test for the Xbox 360 and PS3 versions as well. Before you ask why there is a delay from PC to consoles, it’s because we can update IW-NET directly and therefore the fastest. The console versions require additional testing through their respective manufacturers.


http://fourzerotwo.com/

 

[Lince]

What's a good class to use with the UMP + Silencer?

Marathon + Lightweight + Steady Aim / Commando, if you go steady aim equip a nice shotty, if you'd rather go commando use your fav handgun+tactical knife.

 

[Az]

Can you stop rubbing it in? I'm still at 3.

=D

I wasted my time with nukes so now I mostly use care package-predator-harrier for domination. But I really had to do it.

btw, I really hope we get Vacant as DLC. I looove Vacant.

 

[Dra-Q]

Sub Base. <_<

Sub Base + Harrier in the middle of the Map = <3

 

[FerranMG]

I looove Vacant.

How so?

I really don't understand why anyone would praise Vacant.

What did people like about that map?

 

[scoobs]

WHY oh WHY is shipment on there!!?? moronic. Horrible, awful map. Same with rust.

 

[BrLvgThrChmstry]

How so?

I really don't understand why anyone would praise Vacant.

What did people like about that map?

How could you NOT love Vacant?

 

[wud]

How so?

I really don't understand why anyone would praise Vacant.

What did people like about that map?

if you played a real game-mode like search & destroy you would appreciate it :lol

 

[ACESandEIGHTS]

There's no way they're putting in Shipment! Prediction: If you're not a runner, you will be stabbed or shot by a runner about 40 times per game in shipment.

I think Vacant was excellent. Maybe make it a little bigger or something, but that map was too fun on headquarters.

Anyway, 10 maps wow, I hope it's real. That's gonna put this game over the top.

 

[bedlamite]

Wait, so that map pack leak has already been confirmed? I thought it was proven to be a fake?

An AC130 in Shipment is going to be horrific.

 

[wud]

its fake

 

[ACESandEIGHTS]

We’ve updated the PC version of Modern Warfare 2, including the following fixes:

- Care Package, Emergency Airdrop, and Sentry Gun marker grenades sprint speed normalized.
- Model 1887: Bling using Akimbo and FMJ combination now has same range and damage as non-Bling Model 1887s.
http://fourzerotwo.com/

Funny, I thought they'd already fixed the care package thing...
As far as 1887s, even without this proposed fix, it's commendable that IW neutered them so quickly. Yes, there are still pairs of shotguns littering the ground in Scrapyard. Yes, I still use them for fun occasionally. But they are far from the best close-range weapon now.

 

[ACESandEIGHTS]

its fake

Of course. Silly me for thinking that Activision would support this game beyond ONE map pack of 3 or 4 maps. Duh.

 

[TheOMan]

Holy shit...I started playing with headphones OMG...I feel like I'm cheating...I can HEAR EVERYTHING! I went 34-3... I could have had a nuke and that's running and gunning...

The sounds in the game are also more alive...I jumped when I heard my first frag exploding next to me!:lol

UMP45+Silencer is deadly...

What headphones? 360 or PS3?

I'm looking to buy a good pair.

 

[F#A#Oo]

WHY oh WHY is shipment on there!!?? moronic. Horrible, awful map. Same with rust.

Hopefully it's modified...

Atleast it will less of a grenade spamfest...

 

[Patrick Bateman]

•mp_crash
•mp_overgrown
•mp_shipment
•mp_Vacant

Except for shipment, I'd fap furiously.

 

[Az]

How so?

I really don't understand why anyone would praise Vacant.

What did people like about that map?

Just love the sneaky atmosphere in the corridors while playing HC S&D. It's not BOG with noob tubers shooting across the map.

 

[F#A#Oo]

What headphones? 360 or PS3?

I'm looking to buy a good pair.

There is an abundance of good ones for the 360.

For the PS3 that includes a mic...? It's pretty scarce platform for gaming headsets...

Someone on GAF recommended me the Turtle Beach P21's which I purchased yesterday from Amazon and they arrived today (Amazon Prime ftw) and I tried them out for a few hours and it's pretty amazing...

My only gripe is the length of the cable it is ridiculous...like 12 feet ridiculous...

How so?

I really don't understand why anyone would praise Vacant.

What did people like about that map?

I have had so many amazing matches of S&D on Vacant...A and B are perfectly placed for attackers and defenders...no one had more advantage than the other.

 

[Cohsae]

So I came back to MW2 after about a month off and somehow, despite all the odds, IWNet is an even bigger clusterfuck than before. Over the last two days I'd say the success rate for actually being able to get into a lobby and load a map is like 10%. Most of my MW2 playtime is actually just me swearing at a constant stream of "Game Lobby Closed" "Could Not Migrate Host" "Unable to Connect". And even when I do get into a game it's almost always a laggy mess full of wankers.
In short, fuck this game.

 

[kaizoku]

Holy shit...I started playing with headphones OMG...I feel like I'm cheating...I can HEAR EVERYTHING! I went 34-3... I could have had a nuke and that's running and gunning...

The sounds in the game are also more alive...I jumped when I heard my first frag exploding next to me!:lol

UMP45+Silencer is deadly...

I find the sounds aren't as directional as I'd like, not sure whether its the game or the 360, my su-dh1 unit or my headphones, but the sounds only alert me a little bit sadly. kinda like the scrambler, I know someones around, but not sure where.

I need to start paying more attention between games, switching my camo around and tailoring my killstreaks to what map I'm on. predator missiles are useless on a lot of maps where people just stay indoors.

What emblem and title combos are you guys rocking right now and which ones are you most proud of earning? I've started paying quite a bit of attention to what players use, quite interesting. show em off!

This one was quite nice as it was quite hard for me to earn, finish a match with a 5:1 K/D ratio

These were really pleasing to get cos one guy was kicking ass but using really annoying tactics so was extra special to kill him 3, then 5 times in a row

current combination is the domino effect one because I was pretty pleased at completing that challenge! kill an enemy using a chain of explosives.

 

[backflip10019]

I, too, loved Vacant ... in CoD4. I can't even begin to think how big of a shitstorm it would be in MW2 what with all of the noob tubers, knife runners, akimbo/SPAS shotgun abusers etc etc. I feel like it just has too many tight corridors for this game.

 

[kaizoku]

So I came back to MW2 after about a month off and somehow, despite all the odds, IWNet is an even bigger clusterfuck than before. Over the last two days I'd say the success rate for actually being able to get into a lobby and load a map is like 10%. Most of my MW2 playtime is actually just me swearing at a constant stream of "Game Lobby Closed" "Could Not Migrate Host" "Unable to Connect". And even when I do get into a game it's almost always a laggy mess full of wankers.
In short, fuck this game.

sometimes it might not be IW's fault? I could probbaly play the game for 24 hours and have zero problems other than the occasional dropped host cos someone rage quit or is downloading porn.

 

[Pancakes]

I still love fucking around with the riot shield.

 

[wud]

everyone always has a giggle at it