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Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3 |OT| Got 99 Problems, But Sales Ain't One.
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Dance Inferno
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OK I thought I liked the low health in this game, but I absolutely fucking hate it. Such a clusterfuck - either you get seen first and die, or you see them first and die. What a load of crap.
_Alkaline_
Member
Doomskull said:
1. Flank with a ranged gun.
I don't think quickscopers are an issue though. Quickscoping requires you to stand still while shooting as moving upsets the aim assist, so they're easy to kill from behind/side. And if they miss, they're fucked.
2. If they'e anything like MW2, riot shields are a poor option and really just there for the laughs. But if they're bothering you, stun with a concussion grenade and use a semtex or C4.
GodfatherX
Member
So what exactly are the benefits of Founders club? I know I get it for free foe buying the hardened edition, but what do you get verses just having elite premium?
Man, I don't know what to think of this game. I played a little bit of the campaign and it looks pretty good, but I really don't like the CoD methodology of follow, even trigger, follow, event trigger.
Multiplayer looks a lot worse, graphically speaking. Like shockingly worse. There are a lot of things about it that scream 'hastily done cut and paste job'. But some matches have been a lot of fun. Others have been awful. I can't pin it down.
Multiplayer looks a lot worse, graphically speaking. Like shockingly worse. There are a lot of things about it that scream 'hastily done cut and paste job'. But some matches have been a lot of fun. Others have been awful. I can't pin it down.
_Alkaline_ said:
Thanks, will persevere, it just feels like I'm getting killed in the blink of an eye by these guys and they don't miss. It's almost as if IW intentionally made quick scoping easier and as a legitimate way to play the game rather than exploiting a game mechanic (which is how I saw it in MW2).
Oh well. Game is still fun but just not as much. Maybe I just need to get better...
TheApatheticOne
Member
Played only a handful of matches last night as it was a busy evening (and UPS, after not dropping a game off to my house past 2 all year long, didnt arrive until almost 7).
I dont feel I played enough to really give deep thoughts on anything, but here are some shallow thoughts:
- Levels seem small, as others have stated. Earned a SAM Turret, but couldn't really find a place for it where it would be even slightly out of the way. Potential for some points it would seem with all the UAV/Counter UAVs up, but it was taken down really quick both times I earned it.
- My first game, I died 8 times before I got my first kill. Coming off BF3 into this was a bit jarring! lol My K/D is under one after Day 1. I must be TERRIBLE at this game. My best KD in any CoD is in BLOPS and thats 1.45 or something. That must make me worse than a homeless begger in the CoD GAF Kingdom if 2-3 K/D is considered struggling.
- DAT NET CODE! Ran SILKY smooth on my end (360) and once I got my wits about me, the gunplay felt good. Yeah, the bullet damage may need to come down a bit, but it felt much, much, MUCH better than BLOPS, where you could empty out entire clips, getting hit markers the entire time, and NOT drop someone, then drop because they thought about shooting you. In the foot. Once.
We'll see how it goes. All the douchebags of the world are slaving away to find the maximum cheapest weapon setups and ways to play, I imagine by weeks end we'll see the fruits of their labor. All in all, I like it, as Ive liked all CoDs before it.
I dont feel I played enough to really give deep thoughts on anything, but here are some shallow thoughts:
- Levels seem small, as others have stated. Earned a SAM Turret, but couldn't really find a place for it where it would be even slightly out of the way. Potential for some points it would seem with all the UAV/Counter UAVs up, but it was taken down really quick both times I earned it.
- My first game, I died 8 times before I got my first kill. Coming off BF3 into this was a bit jarring! lol My K/D is under one after Day 1. I must be TERRIBLE at this game. My best KD in any CoD is in BLOPS and thats 1.45 or something. That must make me worse than a homeless begger in the CoD GAF Kingdom if 2-3 K/D is considered struggling.
- DAT NET CODE! Ran SILKY smooth on my end (360) and once I got my wits about me, the gunplay felt good. Yeah, the bullet damage may need to come down a bit, but it felt much, much, MUCH better than BLOPS, where you could empty out entire clips, getting hit markers the entire time, and NOT drop someone, then drop because they thought about shooting you. In the foot. Once.
We'll see how it goes. All the douchebags of the world are slaving away to find the maximum cheapest weapon setups and ways to play, I imagine by weeks end we'll see the fruits of their labor. All in all, I like it, as Ive liked all CoDs before it.
After playing a few hours more yesterday I do have to say the maps got better. There are a few 'better' (nothing remarkable though) ones but mostly meh.
My opinion is still that the maps are pretty boring and linear. They all look grey and dull. Most of them are pretty small as well (though I am happy there isn't any Derail sized map).
Biggest complainment would be the fact pretty much all maps are urban maps. I miss maps like Estate.
The sky seems to be way more emty as Modern Warfare 2 as well. Which is a good thing (fuck Harriers).
My opinion is still that the maps are pretty boring and linear. They all look grey and dull. Most of them are pretty small as well (though I am happy there isn't any Derail sized map).
Biggest complainment would be the fact pretty much all maps are urban maps. I miss maps like Estate.
The sky seems to be way more emty as Modern Warfare 2 as well. Which is a good thing (fuck Harriers).
The Xtortionist
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Sn4ke_911 said:
I don't know if I should feel pissed at their laziness, or nostalgic at another look at that epic Pipeline building.
_Alkaline_
Member
Another thing I've noticed is that air-based killstreaks are almost useless for quite a lot of maps. Since there are so many interiors for people to hide in, and spawn trapping is essentially removed, it's very difficult to pull off the kinds of numbers you'd get with, say, an AC-130 on Wasteland or chopper gunner on Jungle.
Anyone know a good counter for lag? It's absolutely horrible on my end at the minute. You know there's something wrong when I somehow 'miss' at point blank range with the SPAS then the other guy suddenly turns round and kills me instantly with some sort of LMG. Also, a number of the maps are downright irritating; my most hated one so far is Underground with it's maze like structure and bland design, the one is Paris is another one. Of course, I have yet to play the majority of the maps so far since the damn connection falters in 3 out of every 4 games.
Is there any way to switch off the announcer? I'm sick of constantly hearing, 'Losing B!' 'UAV online!' 'They've destroyed your SAM turret!' 'We're losing this fight!'. There is also a distinct lack of people bothering to shoot down air support and with some of the better maps based outside, this can become quite problematic. I mean, do people just rely on others having SAM turrets or something. Getting some bad MW2 vibes from this so far and I am not enjoying it nearly as much.
On a more positive note, I do like the Support killstreaks. Finally some sort of deterrent exists to prevent the ridiculous kill-whoring in this game.
Is there any way to switch off the announcer? I'm sick of constantly hearing, 'Losing B!' 'UAV online!' 'They've destroyed your SAM turret!' 'We're losing this fight!'. There is also a distinct lack of people bothering to shoot down air support and with some of the better maps based outside, this can become quite problematic. I mean, do people just rely on others having SAM turrets or something. Getting some bad MW2 vibes from this so far and I am not enjoying it nearly as much.
On a more positive note, I do like the Support killstreaks. Finally some sort of deterrent exists to prevent the ridiculous kill-whoring in this game.
Captain Bluey
Member
I still cannot log in to register on Elite. Anyone else still having this problem?
The Xtortionist
Member
_Alkaline_ said:
Yeah. I just roll UAV, Counter UAV, Recon Drone/Advanced UAV/nothing(so my streak resets after 5 points
). The offensive killstreaks are underwhelming in MW3. Not a bad thing though.TerryWogan
Member
Sn4ke_911 said:
Huh? This sort of thing is done all of the time. Shame on them? It's just good sense. It's a building. A single asset. Why not recycle it? Most people wouldn't even notice.
Gr1mLock said:
And man, this is just hyperbole. I didn't expect to start defending CoD, but precisely what were people expecting from MW3? It's more of the same. It's finely polished, but it's more of the same. That's what most people wanted, isn't it? Seriously, what were you expecting?
The Xtortionist
Member
Gr1mLock said:
An awesome shell coated in chocolate, you mean.
Game is great and by far the best since CoD4, maybe even better than CoD4...there's such a ridiculous amount of options in-game that it'll take a while to answer that. But I think it's possible.
edit - Question: Does anyone else's game randomly freeze/unfreeze exactly four times and disband the party chat? MW2, Black Ops, and Reach did this to me, now MW3 does too. Don't know if it's my console or just a bad lag spike.
It definitely isn't two bullets to kill with non-snipers/shotguns unless you get headshots, which is how it's always been.
_Alkaline_
Member
The Xtortionist said:Yeah. I just roll UAV, Counter UAV, Recon Drone/Advanced UAV/nothing(so my streak resets after 5 points
No doubt that support is superior to assault. I think that's become pretty clear now and it would still be the case even without extra bonus of them not being reset. For most maps, the better assault rewards (pavelow, reaper, osprey) are still only going to get you a handful of kills as opposed to 10-20, meaning that IW was right when they said that the game would be focussed on gun-on-gun action. That's exactly the case because UAV's are up all the time and people are hunting for kills. Which is how it should be.
The problem, of course, is that the gunplay has come with its own problems.
Boy do I love the assault drone though.
-Stranger-
Junior Member
Not really interested in the multiplayer at all, looks to unrealistic.
I'm more of a Battlefield man
I might give this a rent to play the campaign and spec ops though.
I'm more of a Battlefield man
I might give this a rent to play the campaign and spec ops though.
Kermit The Dog
Banned
Anyone having trouble finding a game? I've been searching for 10 minutes and it hasn't found a single game.
Australia. = (
Australia. = (
PalaceBrother
Member
I am getting "server down" messages all of a sudden, yeahKermit The Dog said:
The Xtortionist
Member
_Alkaline_ said:
The gunplay just gets iffy for me when I'm on a 2-bar, which should never happen with my connection (12MB down, 6 up, wired). They need to iron out the matchmaking. Saying it can't find a match at <50ms ping then throwing me into a <125ms lobby is bullshit when half the world's population is playing.
BruiserBear
Banned
I played MP for over 3 hours last night and I believe I was killed by a sniper 2 or 3 times.Doomskull said:
BruiserBear said:
Yeah, I played most of the day yesterday and I would go a bunch of matches without ever getting sniped, but then when it WAS happening it would be the same one or two people just ridiculously quickscoping until they left or we left the lobby. So it's pretty goddamn bad when it's happening, but in the grand scheme of things it wasn't happening that much.
ItAintEasyBeinCheesy
it's 4th of July in my asshole
Kermit The Dog said:
Had that issue yesterday, couldn't find games and when it did it counted all the way down then server disconnects and shit. Haven't tried today at all.
This is getting redonkulous at this point with elite. It's going on day 2 and it's STILL broke. Saying more people are using it then expected is laughable, they knew a shit ton of people were going to buy and use it. The hardened edition has been sold out for awhile. They are doing a piss poor job convincing people to drop 50 bucks on this shit that's for sure.
BruiserBear
Banned
Wow. A single bulding building is repeated from MW1 in MW3?Sn4ke_911 said:
Stop the fucking presses! This is the biggest scandal in gaming! The game is now awful!
Dance Inferno
Unconfirmed Member
Played a bit more and I'm really enjoying Kill Confirmed; not as much clusterfuckery as TDM. I do wanna try playing some of the objective modes though. Tried jumping into Domination but the matchmaking took forever then dropped me in a game by myself against a team of 6. Did not enjoy that very much.
So far I'm not enjoying multiplayer as much as I did with Black Ops. Is it weird that a developer that has generally played second fiddle to Infinity Ward managed to create such a balanced and fun multiplayer suite with Black Ops? The level design here is pretty boring, not in terms of level layout, which is great, but in terms of visual design. Everything is brown and grey. In Black Ops you had snow maps, jungle maps, industrial maps, the neon yellows of Nuketown, etc... Here's it's just grey, grey, and more grey. Oh look, a splotch of brown.
Then again I've only been playing it for a day and I'm still only level 14, so I haven't seen much at all of the later stage guns/equipment.
So far I'm not enjoying multiplayer as much as I did with Black Ops. Is it weird that a developer that has generally played second fiddle to Infinity Ward managed to create such a balanced and fun multiplayer suite with Black Ops? The level design here is pretty boring, not in terms of level layout, which is great, but in terms of visual design. Everything is brown and grey. In Black Ops you had snow maps, jungle maps, industrial maps, the neon yellows of Nuketown, etc... Here's it's just grey, grey, and more grey. Oh look, a splotch of brown.
Then again I've only been playing it for a day and I'm still only level 14, so I haven't seen much at all of the later stage guns/equipment.
Sn4ke_911 said:
It actually looks prettier in COD4, though!
Just got this game but currently debating whether to open it or not. Can it really recapture that magic of COD4? I honestly need more convincing... There was just so many things right with that game. I had a lonely walk around the maps by myself yesterday and it was strangely nostalgic. Almost felt like revisiting places from my childhood or something.
Hmm, I think I'll leave it sealed and wait for more impressions over the rest of this week and coming weekend. I'll still be guaranteed to make a profit if I offload it next week.
_Alkaline_
Member
ilnadmy said:
You mean like Outpost, Village and Carbon?
I agree though to a certain degree - there's definitely a little too much of an urban focus. A few novelty maps ala Nuketown or Terminal wouldn't have hurt.
Mr. Luchador
Member
When I fire shotguns blasts at people, it seems to give them a warm fuzzy hug of love. Sadly, they return that kindness with a bullet to the face.
_Alkaline_
Member
2San said:
If by 'certain amount' you mean 'not much', then I agree.
Standing still and using aim assist isn't a particularly thrilling example of skill.
Chriswok said:
that's weird. i was using the spas yesterday and doing great with it. sleight of hand, quick draw and steady aim. shot from the hip within about 10 feet was a kill. a lot of these levels have small corridors so stick to those, and not the open areas. also run with others and mop up loose ends instead of being the primary attacker if you can help it.
_Alkaline_
Member
2San said:
Quick-scoping requires you to stand still while shooting as moving upsets the aim-assist. I didn't mean that quickscopers stay constantly still the entire match.
Quickscoping multiple targets in succession is certainly a nice display of skill and looks pretty great, but quickscoping itself is far from difficult.
Mr. Luchador
Member
harrytang said:
Must need practice with it, but it just felt like it was doing nothing. Hit a guy 3 times and he was still standing. Couldn't have been more than 10-20 yards away. The spread seems really narrow too.
Might try your setup and see if it improves.
Foliorum Viridum
Banned
You are such a blatant troll. A ban can't come fast enough.Sn4ke_911 said:
