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[Nome]

I've still yet to hear any examples about what they changed. People have made it clear that they don't care about the graphics. Which is fine, but I'd like to know what is different about the gameplay itself - if that's what is the most important to them.

Small, subtle changes make the difference. I once asked why Brood War was a good expansion--it just added 2 units to each race.

Different set of weapons
Different maps
New/tweaked perks
New modes

It's a complete world of difference.

 

[LowParry]

Vire,

I think you should wait it out till the majority of us here get hands on play time and can give you a real good impression of the game. I get your concerns. And I don't blame ya either.

 

[EleventhDoctor]

Are you seriously trying to compare the differences between Arkham City and Arkham Asylum to MW2 to MW3?

It's not even close in how much they differ.

Arkham Asylum is an entirely linear experience while Arkham City is an open world game. I'm not going to go into the hundreds of things that differ since I don't want to derail this thread but this would be the equivalent of changing the entire foundation of level structure in Modern Warfare and creating an open world Modern Warfare game rather than a heavily scripted popcorn action flick.

So that was an incredibly poor comparison.



Adding matchmaking to Spec Ops doesn't change how spec ops operates. It's still the same experience. You say that Black Ops is a spin off - so zombies doesn't count, but I consider them the same series and so it's nothing innovative or new. And as you said multiplayer is a refinement.

Looks like the troll...

*puts on shades*

...got trolled.

 

[zlatko]

It was working for me earlier today (Black Ops stats only since I haven't played MW3 yet).

I don't have black ops, so I'm curious if the message on the site will change tomorrow or soon? It strictly says to play a match of Black Ops to link stats, but I'll only have MW3 to go off of.

Also, were you able to link your facebook to your profile? If you didn't try, would you mind just attempting it? You can easily remove it from the page so it doesn't spam your fbook page. My issue is on the left of my profile it says I'm at 80% done with my profile, and I'll get another 20% if I link my facebook, which I did, and it shows the account on the lower right of the page under my Xbox/PSN IDs. So that seems to be bugged ?

Also, how much double exp will I get for having linked up to ELITE?

 

[Vire]

Vire,

I think you should wait it out till the majority of us here get hands on play time and can give you a real good impression of the game. I get your concerns. And I don't blame ya either.

Sounds good to me.

Looking forward to some honest impressions.

Small, subtle changes make the difference. I once asked why Brood War was a good expansion--it just added 2 units to each race.

Different set of weapons
Different maps
New/tweaked perks
New modes

It's a complete world of difference.

This isn't being billed as an expansion. It's a full retail product that's 60 dollars.

 

[CyReN]

Do reviews come out at midnight est?

 

[MikeE21286]

360 Elite - > 360 -> PS3 Elite -> PS3

Man, talk about being treated like 2nd tier

that's 3 months exclusivity?

 

[Cloudius12]

Is 4 player local split screen multiplayer in the 360 version like it was with MW2 or only 2 player like Black Ops?

Likely 4 player split screen offline and 2 players split screen online. And no chance of system link with 2 consoles and 8 players :/

 

[MarshMellow96]

Quick scopers can do die in a fucking fire.

 

[krameriffic]

Commando greatly increase knife lunge/teleport. Knife lung range: Commando >>> Black Ops >>> MW2 regular. That's why Black Ops knifing was still big a problem.

Did you knife exclusively in BO? Because I did. Not even on nuketown, hate that shitty map. I had over 20000 kills with the ballistic knife in BO and I can tell you this: the lunge was NOT that huge, and even when you did do the double fisted lunge with the ballistic knife, you were wishing you hadn't because the recovery time on it was very long. BO knifing was NOT OP because of the lunge, it was OP because the recovery time on the scissor swipe was practically zero, thus allowing huge knifing chains in CQC. I actually got to the point where I preferred the scissor swipe because it was much faster and better (though shorter in range).

Oddly enough, it was possible to program a macro in BO (if you had a high-end mouse) that would cancel the recovery time on the lunge animation by attempting to throw a tomahawk and switch back to the ballistic knife. This made the knife genuinely overpowered because it made you recover very quickly from the lunge, but I was probably the only player to ever do it. The recovery time on a lunge with the knife was its biggest balancing factor. It was at its most OP when you sliced up 4 people in a single room with scissor swipes, not when you were lunging 50 feet for a single kill then instantly dying.

 

[johnFkennedy]

Are you seriously trying to compare the differences between Arkham City and Arkham Asylum to MW2 to MW3?

It's not even close in how much they differ.

Arkham Asylum is an entirely linear experience while Arkham City is an open world game. I'm not going to go into the hundreds of things that differ since I don't want to derail this thread but this would be the equivalent of changing the entire foundation of level structure in Modern Warfare and creating an open world Modern Warfare game rather than a heavily scripted popcorn action flick.

So that was an incredibly poor comparison.

Not really. The World is bigger sure, but barring some slight changes to the combat, it's still largely the same. There are more side distraction in City compared to Asylum, but if you showed me a video of each game in an indoor environment then I wouldn't be able to tell them apart.

 

[snack]

Quick scopers can do die in a fucking fire.

It takes skills to quick scope, brah.

 

[Madtown_]

Man, talk about being treated like 2nd tier

that's 3 months exclusivity?

30 days, I believe. Something Microsoft signed w/ Activision a few years ago.
Keep in mind that order is how I think things will play out, not a definite list or anything.

 

[MikeE21286]

30 days, I believe. Something Microsoft signed w/ Activision a few years ago.
Keep in mind that order is how I think things will play out, not a definite list or anything.

30 days per tier of subscription though. Max of 90 I guess. Maybe 60.

 

[Vire]

Not really. The World is bigger sure, but barring some slight changes to the combat, it's still largely the same. There are more side distraction in City compared to Asylum, but if you showed me a video of each game in an indoor environment then I wouldn't be able to tell them apart.

So if I ignore 50% of the game it's the same game?

Thanks, good work. A+

 

[LowParry]

Sounds good to me.

Looking forward to some honest impressions.

I think Max is suppose to post a video by tomorrow of his impressions so that'd probably be a great place to start.

 

[MechDX]

It takes skills to quick scope, brah.

Still doesnt make it complete and uttern BS.

 

[MarshMellow96]

It takes skills to quick scope, brah.

Well, yeah. Leg shot deaths though?

 

[Madtown_]

30 days per tier of subscription though. Max of 90 I guess. Maybe 60.

Well, the 30 days is the minimum wait between 360 DLC and PS3 DLC. I doubt they stretch it out more than that even with Elite.

 

[Mega Man]

I haven't signed up for elite yet. Kinda planned on getting my Hardened ed in the mail first, but I assume I can just sign up for free now and add the promo code later ??

And does anyone know when an app is coming out for it?

 

[M.W.]

It takes skills to quick scope, brah.

Yeah, no. I just played some MW2 and have never quick scoped. Picked up a sniper rifle and bam, 3 kills immediately. I didn't realize how easy it was.

 

[kuYuri]

At a local Best Buy midnight launch. Around 40ish people right now.

 

[Nome]

Sounds good to me.

Looking forward to some honest impressions.



This isn't being billed as an expansion. It's a full retail product that's 60 dollars.

That's the point. Brood War cost just as much as Starcraft. Yet it was far less content.

Modern Warfare 3 is as huge as it gets, and it's standalone.

 

[snack]

IGN review - 9.0/10

Fun campaign but a forgettable story? Oh, IGN. You make no sense.

 

[CitizenCope]

Vire,

I think you should wait it out till the majority of us here get hands on play time and can give you a real good impression of the game. I get your concerns. And I don't blame ya either.

Concerns? He has no interest in this game. No matter what we say in just a couple of hours won't matter to him. He is upset that so many people can't wait to get there grubby hands on this.

 

[ColonialRaptor]

Sigh... I have the discs, but Steam wants to DOWNLOAD IT rather than using the Discs... WTF is going on and what do I do?

 

[Vire]

Concerns? He has no interest in this game. No matter what we say in just a couple of hours won't matter to him. He is upset that so many people can't wait to get there grubby hands on this.

Completely false. I own every Call of Duty and I want to know why I should shell out another sixty dollars. I don't get what your problem is.

 

[Sn4ke_911]

IGN review - 9.0/10

http://cache.gyazo.com/f65862e6ac0950321ffeb21e2481f22c.png[IMG]

Fun campaign but a forgettable story? Oh, IGN. You make no sense.[/QUOTE]

Why does this make no sense? The campaign was fun to play like cool set pieces but the story was shit.

 

[Bboy AJ]

Completely false. I own every Call of Duty and I want to know why I should shell out another sixty dollars. I don't get what your problem is.

If you owned every one, you already know the answer.

 

[vatstep]

IGN review - 9.0/10

Fun campaign but a forgettable story? Oh, IGN. You make no sense.

9.0 is about what I would've expected from IGN. Also, you can totally have a fun campaign with a forgettable story. I've had fun in SP in these games before while not caring about the plot at all.

 

[Scott32020]

IGN gave CoD 4 a 9.4 and MW2 a 9.5. So MW3 must be better than MW2

 

[Vire]

If you owned every one, you already know the answer.

And that is?

God forbid someone comes in with questions about the game and asking why it's different.

 

[snack]

Why does this make no sense? The campaign was fun to play like cool set pieces but the story was shit.

To me, if a campaign is fun, chances are the story will be somewhat memorable too. But that might just be me.

 

[Freezie KO]

It takes aim assist to quick scope, brah.

Fixed.

 

[j-wood]

Any chance this game sells out any where? I can't head to best buy until Wednesday.

Vire, if you own the other cod games then why don't you read the op and decide what's different for yourself. we clearly aren't giving you what you want to hear

 

[CitizenCope]

Completely false. I own every Call of Duty and I want to know why I should shell out another sixty dollars. I don't get what your problem is.

A giant OP can't give you some answers as whether it's worth your money? And the game hasn't been released yet in most areas, what are you expecting to get for answers?
No problem just giddy with excitement and you're in an OT minutes before release sounding like you have no interest in the game.

 

[Smokey]

Vire just drop it my man. Why don't Madden players play Madden 10? Or why not stick with Madden 11? The same thing applies here. I don't know exactly what you're looking for here.

 

[zlatko]

So if I ignore 50% of the game it's the same game?

Thanks, good work. A+

To sort of answer what your original question was(having a hard time finding it on the last page), but I assume you are asking what is there to be excited for in this new CoD that will hopefully give you the same hype you had for CoD 4 ?

Well if we dissect all of its components at a glance you'll get:
The conclusion to the trilogy started story wise in CoD4. So expect the most refined CoD campaign of the 3 because at this point they should be hitting their stride, and ending it with a bang.

Spec Ops returns, but has several variants. If you have a buddy you love playing co-op with, then expect a much more extensive and time consuming variety of modes to tackle and have fun with.

MP is a bit of a toss up in the sense that they want that CoD feel that makes CoD well... CoD, but they are trying to still add stuff to the game WITHOUT fucking up the balance so much as they did with MW2. Think of it as fixing what's wrong with MW2, giving people what they liked about MW1 and 2, and then adding a big new layer on top of that.

Things that the MP is offering that I personally like is:
16 all new maps. (Most games ship with jack shit and 10 at most)
A bevvy of new guns.
MORE customization to suit different play styles.
MORE focus on rewarding team players in various ways rather than just lone wolfers.
New game modes to possibly encourage new ways to play.
Tons of refinements to the leveling and unlock mechanics to keep you hooked.




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That's the best I can do to try and explain my personal excitement for it, and going back to it this year, even though Black Ops I played for a month tops, and MW2 before it was capped out 3 months, while MW1 I lose track of since I played it so damn much. I am hoping this is going to be what I wanted out of MW2, and will hopefully keep me hooked much longer this time, because I do like a LOT of what CoD offers, but the last 3 games seem to have buried that under a rubble of shit. There seems to still be some shit that makes me feel uneasy, but not enough to deter me away from the good I'm seeing in the things posted above.

If you have friends you play with, and you both enjoyed CoD together, then this is probably worth the 60 bucks this holiday season.


*Who won that Poem contest for Arkham City by the way for the PC version?*

 

[M.W.]

Live stream, poor quality:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=8-4zAKGbqeE

 

[Vire]

Vire just drop it my man. Why don't Madden players play Madden 10? Or why not stick with Madden 11? The same thing applies here. I don't know exactly what you're looking for here.

Sorry, guess I'm just not used to the concept of shooters being annualized like a sports game. It just seems like a foreign idea to me and something that hasn't really been done in the past before Call Of Duty.

To sort of answer what your original question was(having a hard time finding it on the last page), but I assume you are asking what is there to be excited for in this new CoD that will hopefully give you the same hype you had for CoD 4 ?

Well if we dissect all of its components at a glance you'll get:
The conclusion to the trilogy started story wise in CoD4. So expect the most refined CoD campaign of the 3 because at this point they should be hitting their stride, and ending it with a bang.

Spec Ops returns, but has several variants. If you have a buddy you love playing co-op with, then expect a much more extensive and time consuming variety of modes to tackle and have fun with.

MP is a bit of a toss up in the sense that they want that CoD feel that makes CoD well... CoD, but they are trying to still add stuff to the game WITHOUT fucking up the balance so much as they did with MW2. Think of it as fixing what's wrong with MW2, giving people what they liked about MW1 and 2, and then adding a big new layer on top of that.

Things that the MP is offering that I personally like is:
16 all new maps. (Most games ship with jack shit and 10 at most)
A bevvy of new guns.
MORE customization to suit different play styles.
MORE focus on rewarding team players in various ways rather than just lone wolfers.
New game modes to possibly encourage new ways to play.
Tons of refinements to the leveling and unlock mechanics to keep you hooked.




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That's the best I can do to try and explain my personal excitement for it, and going back to it this year, even though Black Ops I played for a month tops, and MW2 before it was capped out 3 months, while MW1 I lose track of since I played it so damn much. I am hoping this is going to be what I wanted out of MW2, and will hopefully keep me hooked much longer this time, because I do like a LOT of what CoD offers, but the last 3 games seem to have buried that under a rubble of shit. There seems to still be some shit that makes me feel uneasy, but not enough to deter me away from the good I'm seeing in the things posted above.

If you have friends you play with, and you both enjoyed CoD together, then this is probably worth the 60 bucks this holiday season.


*Who won that Poem contest for Arkham City by the way for the PC version?*

Thanks for the reply.

 

[Bboy AJ]

And that is?

God forbid someone comes in with questions about the game and asking why it's different.

It's not. Jesus.

 

[X-Frame]

Is the Advanced UAV missing from the Support Package list on the OP?

I saw it in the YouTube videos but couldn't find it there ..

 

[johnFkennedy]

So if I ignore 50% of the game it's the same game?

Thanks, good work. A+

Don't get your panties in a bunch.

In my opinion the open world aspect of Arkham City added nothing to the experience other than to add a bullet point to the box. So what might be a huge deal for you is very minimal to me. In the same light, the number of changes IW has made to the MW3 seems significant to me while they seem insignificant to you.

MW3 appeals to most of the people in this thread, but it doesn't appeal to you. That's fine. I just don't see why you have to try to rain on everyone else's parade in the process?

You don't think the game is for you? Then don't buy it. BOOM, done.

 

[M.W.]

Sorry, guess I'm just not used to the concept of shooters being annualized like a sports game. It just seems like a foreign idea to me and something that hasn't really been done in the past before Call Of Duty.

We've had a new COD every year since 2005. It's nothing new really.

 

[Madtown_]

Is the Advanced UAV missing from the Support Package list on the OP?

I saw it in the YouTube videos but couldn't find it there ..

Yes. I noticed this and forgot to mention it to Radec.

 

[RooMHM]

To me, if a campaign is fun, chances are the story will be somewhat memorable too. But that might just be me.

It's you. Fun is gameplay, story is script.

 

[ColonialRaptor]

Sigh... I have the discs, but Steam wants to DOWNLOAD IT rather than using the Discs... WTF is going on and what do I do?

Okay... I got it started. It's going to take 46 Minutes to install this sucker... 46 minutes!

What the crap!?!?!! How can something take so long to copy files from a DVD? I don't understand how it can take that long to install!

I'm hoping that is just an over estimation, I'm going to stopwatch it.

 

[X26]

It takes skills to quick scope, brah.

:lol

 

[Vire]

We've had a new COD every year since 2005. It's nothing new really.

Have you ever heard of diminishing returns? It's okay to do it the first few times, but after a while I think there comes a point where you say enough is enough. And unfortunately based on the answers I've been given here today, it seems like this is the game that I stop caring since they refuse to change anything meaningful. Maybe I was being naive and expecting such a reinvention like COD4 gave the series. But it's just a shame they aren't doing more with this franchise and I could easily see it becoming the next Guitar Hero or Tony Hawk, where they failed to innovate on a great existing idea.

 

[Card Boy]

Just dinged level 20. Got the Specialist Kill streaks now. I have exclusively just being used the M4A1 and the SCAR-H.

I got Stalker Pro and Blast Shield Pro now. They are extremly easy to level up now compared to BO. None of this 3 challenge requirements, It's in the vain of MW2.