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Call of Duty: Modern Warfare |OT| Zero Dank Thirty

MastAndo

Member
I havent seen anyone mention it, but moving around with an LMG feels much quicker now.
Maybe you switched to an attachment with higher mobility? It doesn't look like anything like that is mentioned in the patch notes;

11/2/19 - Title Update/Playlist Update
  • More fixes to prevent crashes and improve stability across all platforms
  • Battlechatter has been removed from tactical, one-life modes
  • APCs and Tanks in Ground War no longer award points towards a nuke
  • Fix for charms affecting weapon performance when firing from the hip
  • Claymores: Stun grenades can now force claymores into a disabled state for 3 seconds
  • Footsteps: Adjustments to tame the 3rd person footsteps. They will now filter out based on occlusion more.
  • Fix to an issue where Tac Inserts could cause players to spawn out of bounds
  • Fix for the gold camo not unlocking on the .357
  • Playlist Update
    • NVG (TDM only)
    • Ground War
    • Gunfight
    • Kill Confirmed
    • FFA
 

angelic

Banned
This game just dethroned RE2 as my personal GOTY. It's everything I ever wanted in a call of duty. I love it. Even picadilly is great fun, once the game "clicks".

I agree, and it's also ironic that it pulls a lot from ghosts, which I loved, and many (silly people) didnt.

I also love that I instantly unlocked 2x recharging tripmines, without having to prestige twice to get tokens. It puts the fun 1st.
 

Kagey K

Banned
I’m still working my way back up out of this giant negative I worked myself into by playing hardcore on day one when I hadn’t played a COD in years.

I still don’t know if I like the changes or not, but I keep coming back just because I bought it at full price.
There seems to be a bunch of balancing they need to do on some of the maps, but I am getting more accustomed to the flow, hopefully they have it sorted out before the Xmas noobs come in.

if they lose them, they will have a hard time getting them back.
 
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Foamy

Unconfirmed Member
Reached level 40 tonight and I'm happy with my progress given my limited playing time.
Got my first finishing move and also had one done to me for the first time and man is that ever humiliating.
Of course it would be a lot easier to sneak up on someone if your character didnt yell like a retard every time he sees someone.
 
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Kagey K

Banned
I’m still working my way back up out of this giant negative I worked myself into by playing hardcore on day one when I hadn’t played a COD in years.

I still don’t know if I like the changes or not, but I keep coming back just because I bought it at full price.
There seems to be a bunch of balancing they need to do on some of the maps, but I am getting more accustomed to the flow, hopefully they have it sorted out before the Xmas noobs come in.

if they lose them, they will have a hard time getting them back.
 

Geki-D

Banned
Just saw someone go 20K 6D because they used a riot shield in HQ, stayed crouched in a corner and just threw insta-kill knives at anyone who tried to shoot at them. That's some serious BS, so shields are pretty much God mode?
 

Caffeine

Member
Just saw someone go 20K 6D because they used a riot shield in HQ, stayed crouched in a corner and just threw insta-kill knives at anyone who tried to shoot at them. That's some serious BS, so shields are pretty much God mode?
naa if they walking with one u can shoot the feet. a gas grenade will throw him off and his character will cough so he cant throw a knife.
 
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Geki-D

Banned
it seems to be a community reaction to 725 users.
A "reaction"? Just seems like an equally lame, OP thing to me. In fact it's even worse because at least people using the 725 aren't semi-invincible. I'm sure people would be doing it if the 725 was perfectly balanced. It's a bit like if people using the Javelin kamikaze glitch in MW2 said they were doing it in response to the model 1887 akimbo.
 

Caffeine

Member
A "reaction"? Just seems like an equally lame, OP thing to me. In fact it's even worse because at least people using the 725 aren't semi-invincible. I'm sure people would be doing it if the 725 was perfectly balanced. It's a bit like if people using the Javelin kamikaze glitch in MW2 said they were doing it in response to the model 1887 akimbo.
its always like this op thing is countered with another op thing. the community flocks to whatever gets them easy kills. the game is still in its infancy you will see more stuff pop up there are dudes who sit there figuring out whats exploitable.
 

GamingKaiju

Member
People are sleep on the Scar btw it’s got so much range and damage. I’ve being tearing it up recently with it.

fair enough it’s slow to ads but leave the scope off and use attachments that quicken ads and you are golden.
 

Geki-D

Banned
Okay, so WTF are you actually meant to do against riot shields? Even if they miss their knife, they're just crouching there, you can't shoot over them or under them and they can turn towards you as fast as you can try to circle them. Begin to cook a nade and they just quickly switch weapon and kill you, get too close (so you can jump and shoot over them) and they'll beat you to death. I guess you need a specific non lethal, like stun, flash or gas (and i haven't unlocked gas yet) but if they're in the corner or you have no more and you're fucked.

The riot shields are way worse than the 725.
 
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Was it ever confirmed whether or not the campaign is unplayable without the day 1 patch? I remember one user on here claiming its playable if you turn your console to offline mode.
 
I've not played a shooter since, well, the PS4 first launched. But lately, I've been craving some classic Call of Duty deathmatch action.

But I have no idea if this game is good or not, some people love it, some people clearly hate it, and reviewers seem to be very middling. Wouldn't mind picking up an older title at this point but they probably don't really have enough players sticking around I would imagine.

Any old folks here? is this going to be fun and have a solid userbase for folks just wanting classic deathmatch? The last CoD game I played was Modern Warfare 2 and that was great! But some of the reviews for this make it sound like it's fundamentally flawed.
 
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RaptorGTA

Member
Okay, so WTF are you actually meant to do against riot shields? Even if they miss their knife, they're just crouching there, you can't shoot over them or under them and they can turn towards you as fast as you can try to circle them. Begin to cook a nade and they just quickly switch weapon and kill you, get too close (so you can jump and shoot over them) and they'll beat you to death. I guess you need a specific non lethal, like stun, flash or gas (and i haven't unlocked gas yet) but if they're in the corner or you have no more and you're fucked.

The riot shields are way worse than the 725.


sometimes you can shoot their feet..but yea...you really can't do anything. KInd of feel they should have a timer or health bar to limit their use...Probably would mess up their balancing.
 

Gerdav

Member
The 725 is ridiculous, I was playing cyber attack this afternoon, and the emp was on the bridge I was approaching from the A flag in Dom side, I was one shot killed from the snipers perch you have to climb the ladder from the C flag in dom spawns side, my initial thought was ok my bad sniper got me, watched the whole kill cam, nope a bloody one shot from a shotgun, utterly laughable you have to wonder how the fuck did that gun get past IW’s internal testing.
 
Okay, so WTF are you actually meant to do against riot shields? Even if they miss their knife, they're just crouching there, you can't shoot over them or under them and they can turn towards you as fast as you can try to circle them. Begin to cook a nade and they just quickly switch weapon and kill you, get too close (so you can jump and shoot over them) and they'll beat you to death. I guess you need a specific non lethal, like stun, flash or gas (and i haven't unlocked gas yet) but if they're in the corner or you have no more and you're fucked.

The riot shields are way worse than the 725.

You have to go gangzta on em, go blood or a crip on those foos ..aaand you gots to have Brooklyn swag 💪..then you might stand a chance..real talk 👊🤭
 

Isa

Member
I've not played a shooter since, well, the PS4 first launched. But lately, I've been craving some classic Call of Duty deathmatch action.

But I have no idea if this game is good or not, some people love it, some people clearly hate it, and reviewers seem to be very middling. Wouldn't mind picking up an older title at this point but they probably don't really have enough players sticking around I would imagine.

Any old folks here? is this going to be fun and have a solid userbase for folks just wanting classic deathmatch? The last CoD game I played was Modern Warfare 2 and that was great! But some of the reviews for this make it sound like it's fundamentally flawed.

I'd consider myself an old fan. Loved the first original two and 4. Had fun with MW2 and a couple of Blops titles. I really enjoy this one, granted some matches are kind of bull, but it varies. Its fun trying out certain weapons and setups, and I mainly just mess around with my friends in TDM. Other modes can be fun but I actually prefer the smaller game types due to the TTK being so low. I love the change to building a custom class as well, I've got the Oden so decked out its comical. As a casual game to unwind or fill the time with some mp, and a decent campaign its pretty damn good imho. Plus the new engine is pretty neat.
 

Gerdav

Member
The 725 is ridiculous, I was playing cyber attack this afternoon, and the emp was on the bridge I was approaching from the A flag in Dom side, I was one shot killed from the snipers perch you have to climb the ladder from the C flag in dom spawns side, my initial thought was ok my bad sniper got me, watched the whole kill cam, nope a bloody one shot from a shotgun, utterly laughable you have to wonder how the fuck did that gun get past IW’s internal testing.

Of course this is supposed to say on Rammaza but I have no clue how I am supposed to edit a post.
 

GamingKaiju

Member
I used the 725 to complete the weapon challenges but shotty running was never my thing always felt cheap to me.

wait how do u unlock gold for your guns? Max weapon rank or something?
 

Geki-D

Banned
The 725 is ridiculous, I was playing cyber attack this afternoon, and the emp was on the bridge I was approaching from the A flag in Dom side, I was one shot killed from the sniper's perch you have to climb the ladder from the C flag in dom spawns side, my initial thought was ok my bad sniper got me, watched the whole kill cam, nope a bloody one shot from a shotgun, utterly laughable you have to wonder how the fuck did that gun get past IW’s internal testing.
So I've been messing around with it since today. Results are mixed, got some really good games and some really bad ones depending on the map. But yeah you can totally mess around with attachments to increase range and accuracy and pull off sniper shots with it. Not sure if you get a slug option down the line but with the spread I'm still getting mid to long range kills with it (generally depending on if I score a headshot).

Also the Stopping Power field upgrade lasts forever till you die? Because using it with the 725 turns it into a WMD, I've got double kills with one shell. Seems unbalanced as fuck that it doesn't have a limited number of reloads and if it does then it's crazy high. Why would you even use another field upgrade?
 

MastAndo

Member
I guess I'm improving a bit, and the SBMM is adjusting accordingly, since I"m finding myself in games where I'm getting absolutely smoked - like peak out for a mere second and getting my top blown off repeatedly kind of games. I can usually fare OK without ever touching a sniper rifle, but I'm seeing it puts me at a huge disadvantage on some maps in a game like this.

Also, I'm having a hard time finding anything else that can perform as well as the M4A1, for me particularly now that I've got it almost fully leveled, though I'm clearly not alone in that. It just seems to do it all (outside of sniper range, though it's no slouch long distance)...so the only incentive I see to switch is to just to be able to say you're not using what everyone else uses. I also dig using it the PILA as a secondary to take down killstreaks, so I don't have to use Overkill as the first perk and can also feel like I'm contributing when I'm particularly trash in any given game - which is more often than I care to admit.

All in all, I never really played CoD multiplayer (or the MP in really any other FPS that isn't Destiny) so I don't have the frame of reference to agree with the complaints. Not being able to work on multiple challenge missions at once is lame though, and forces an unnecessary amount of grind. Otherwise, I'm having fun with it.
 

Shmunter

Member
So I've been messing around with it since today. Results are mixed, got some really good games and some really bad ones depending on the map. But yeah you can totally mess around with attachments to increase range and accuracy and pull off sniper shots with it. Not sure if you get a slug option down the line but with the spread I'm still getting mid to long range kills with it (generally depending on if I score a headshot).

Also the Stopping Power field upgrade lasts forever till you die? Because using it with the 725 turns it into a WMD, I've got double kills with one shell. Seems unbalanced as fuck that it doesn't have a limited number of reloads and if it does then it's crazy high. Why would you even use another field upgrade?
You do get a slug option. Combined with range increasing barrels it shoots further than people expect from a shotty. Of course close range hip fire suffers so there are trade offs. Personally I don’t see a need for nerf, it’s still no auto long range AR. See what happens.
 
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whatup

Member
Is it just me or is the 725 shotgun ridiculously overpowered? Been testing out overkill with the shotgun and the M14 and so far, so good.
 
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Foamy

Unconfirmed Member
Can anyone suggest a reason why im really good at NVM but not vanilla game mode?
 
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Foamy

Unconfirmed Member
Not sure which I hate more, the 725 users or the shield scrubs.
 

GenericUser

Member
two issues:

my ping is constantly above 300, I have a 9ms ping in siege....

daily challenges seem to be bugged. Need fixing asap. I started the "get 75 kills with smgs" and the counter just stopped increasing halfway through the challenge....
 
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Mista

Banned
two issues:

my ping is constantly above 300, I have a 9ms ping in siege....

daily challenges seem to be bugged. Need fixing asap. I started the "get 75 kills with smgs" and the counter just stopped increasing halfway through the challenge....
That’s a bug too. Whatever ping you see just remove one 0
 
two issues:

my ping is constantly above 300, I have a 9ms ping in siege....

daily challenges seem to be bugged. Need fixing asap. I started the "get 75 kills with smgs" and the counter just stopped increasing halfway through the challenge....

Not allowing to do multiple challenges at once, kind of starting to get on my nerve. Unneccessary ridiculous grind 😡

Sponk, had that happened to me before. Seem to me that the next day counter resumed for me 😓😞
 
Maybe you switched to an attachment with higher mobility? It doesn't look like anything like that is mentioned in the patch notes;

I spent a few day playing Spec Ops and when I came back to TDM, LMG movement did seem faster to me. Maybe just my imagination.

Okay, so WTF are you actually meant to do against riot shields? Even if they miss their knife, they're just crouching there, you can't shoot over them or under them and they can turn towards you as fast as you can try to circle them. Begin to cook a nade and they just quickly switch weapon and kill you, get too close (so you can jump and shoot over them) and they'll beat you to death. I guess you need a specific non lethal, like stun, flash or gas (and i haven't unlocked gas yet) but if they're in the corner or you have no more and you're fucked.

The riot shields are way worse than the 725.

As a huuuge fan of riot shields, they are definitely a low tier tool for general play.
If you carry a semtex grenade or molotov and score a direct hit (which isnt hard, because you can get so close), its a guaranteed kill for you - even when they have the blast shield perk. There is also that sparkly flare thing that kills riot-shielders on direct hits too. Cant remember its name.
 
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Joyful

Member
Okay, so WTF are you actually meant to do against riot shields? Even if they miss their knife, they're just crouching there, you can't shoot over them or under them and they can turn towards you as fast as you can try to circle them. Begin to cook a nade and they just quickly switch weapon and kill you, get too close (so you can jump and shoot over them) and they'll beat you to death. I guess you need a specific non lethal, like stun, flash or gas (and i haven't unlocked gas yet) but if they're in the corner or you have no more and you're fucked.

The riot shields are way worse than the 725.

molotovs seem to be the intended anti shield tool atm, if you direct hit they die
thermite/c4 are also good choices

stuns stop them from turning fast if you wanna go the shooty route
gas nade also decent choice

but ya if you dont have nades i can see it being annoying.
 

nemiroff

Gold Member
Seems to me that lately people are way too focused on sniping in ground war.. Snipers and tanks everywhere.. and people aren't really trying to win the game. I'm often eerily alone trying to gain points to get a win. IDK

Anyway, I bought the PC version as well now (I started out on the Xbox version), and it's nice to see the Xbox and PC versions syncing all my player details, configurations, loadouts etc. between them. I can just go back and forth according to my "mood" (gaming chair and wide FOV in 144 Hz vs sofa and 65 inch HDR, oh the first world problems lol).

Oh btw, it's so confusing to sometimes respawn with someone else's gear... WTF. And I swear, I way WAY too often get killed around a corner (no, bullets does NOT go through a meter of concrete..), is it desync perhaps?
 
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Geki-D

Banned
molotovs seem to be the intended anti shield tool atm, if you direct hit they die
thermite/c4 are also good choices
Well I'm 2 ranks away from semtex so I'll finally have something I can use against it that I actually want to have on me, rather than using gear I'm not interested in just to stand a chance against OP BS.
Seems to me that lately people are way too focused on sniping in ground war
Kill farming for exp is nothing new in large scale PVP games. BF has always suffered from this. The only real fix has been to reduce the score gained from kills, raise it for doing objectives and upping by a large margin the win bonus so people actually want to win.
 
Well I'm 2 ranks away from semtex so I'll finally have something I can use against it that I actually want to have on me, rather than using gear I'm not interested in just to stand a chance against OP BS.

Kill farming for exp is nothing new in large scale PVP games. BF has always suffered from this. The only real fix has been to reduce the score gained from kills, raise it for doing objectives and upping by a large margin the win bonus so people actually want to win.


Semtex would blow the shit out them? I need more options than one(molotovs one of em). In Ground War they get bullied from million directions but a normal 6vs6 TDM...they are a Problem 😡
 

Geki-D

Banned
Semtex would blow the shit out them? I need more options than one(molotovs one of em). In Ground War they get bullied from million directions but a normal 6vs6 TDM...they are a Problem 😡
Apparently sticking semtex kills them. I haven't played ground war since the beta but I'm not surprised they're not too much of an issue in that mode. I've been sticking to matchmaking random modes and in pretty much every objective based mode they're a pain.
 

J-Roderton

Member
So, I pick a challenge to complete. I click the box yes that I want to activate that set of challenges. I proceed to complete requirements for said challenges, but the little meter, 0/50, etc does not fill up. I can get five SMG kills and it still says I have 0 kills. Hasn't worked for a few days.
 
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