Do you have to draw early to do it and make it dishonorable kills? I dont give a fuck because of Ng+ but if it's twisted hard then I cant say I didnt see the frustration coming.
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Call of Juarez: Gunslinger |OT| It's your huckleberry
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Do you have to draw early to do it and make it dishonorable kills? I dont give a fuck because of Ng+ but if it's twisted hard then I cant say I didnt see the frustration coming.
I don't know, I keep giving it a shot and then Alt+Tab'ing to read NeoGAF for a few minutes to keep myself from becoming too frustrated.
EDIT: I think trying to do this with a Mouse is making it more complicated, let me try a controller.
phantomspiker
Member
Once I stopped trying to be honorable I found all of the duels to be pretty easy.
EDIT: I could definitely see the duels being easier with a controller.
phantomspiker
Member
WHAT.THE.FUCK
You guys...they turn off the point indicators in True West mode.
WHY WOULD THEY TURN OFF THE POINT INDICATORS IN TRUE WEST MODE!?
You guys...they turn off the point indicators in True West mode.
WHY WOULD THEY TURN OFF THE POINT INDICATORS IN TRUE WEST MODE!?
SlasherJPC
Banned
Tokubetsu
Member
I got it on the second try. For me, the one that was in the back was faster so I focused on him. Second guy didn't even get a shot off before he was dead.
Immersion?
Ya, got it on my first try as soon as I switched to a controller, it's not difficult at all.
Mouse is Hard Mode, though. Fucking thing floats all over the place like crazy, impossible to get it to focus. It was manageable enough up to that point, but once you have two guys to deal with it becomes too much of a handicap.
Thankfully the game switches between M/K or controller on the fly.
Now if they can fix the FoV and the repeating keys micro-stutter bug, I'd be quite happy. I know the latter will never get fixed, but the former HAS TO.
phantomspiker
Member
Ace Harding
Member
Weird. I just saw this on XBLA and went to look it up and it's another one of these Ubisoft $15 FPS's built using an existing game's engine/assets? It's strange that Blood Dragon got so much press and this got nothing, yet its apparently a solid game.
Anyway, might check this out. I am a sucker for anything western.
Anyway, might check this out. I am a sucker for anything western.
The crazy thing about this is for as much as it is a perfect arcade "get the high score!" action game, it actually has a fantastic western plot and narrative. The storytelling is unique, innovative, and hilarious.
Eh, I was close. Got one word right.That's the third Army of Two game, not the third Call of Juarez game.
TriAceJP
Member
I've been playing this game for the last few hours.
It's great fun. It's essentially a drunk old man telling wild stories, and you are playing him while he is talking all this nonsense.
The dialog is fun, man. I laughed quite a few times, and I am only on level 3.
Great game. Worth $15.
It's great fun. It's essentially a drunk old man telling wild stories, and you are playing him while he is talking all this nonsense.
The dialog is fun, man. I laughed quite a few times, and I am only on level 3.
Great game. Worth $15.
ShinobiFist
Banned
Yeah. I gave up pretty fast using the K/B/M. My accuracy is at 75+ avg since I went to pad(restarted the game)Easier head-shots as well with the pad too. I'm at Stage 3 now. Stage 2 was soo much fun, that rain!
Nice, though do you have the auto-aim option turned on for the pad?
I may be tempted to use a 360 controller for the duels and M/KB otherwise though. I don't think I have much problems aiming besides during duels.
Skills for kills, Agent, skills for kills.
This is what I'm doing, the game switches on the fly seamlessly.
Rifle/Quickshooters for me.
ShinobiFist
Banned
Nice, though do you have the auto-aim option turned on for the pad?
Nah. Auto aim messes me up. I'm to use to CSGO. But I do get hit a lot, lol. Once I got my cross hair placed(everyone is the same height)I'm good to go. All about cross hair placement(Strange with a pad)Can't wait to hit the crib in a few minutes and play more. Anyone using SweetFX as well?
How many episodes are there? I just stopped when I got to episode 7 (3.7 hours play time according to Steam), which I feel like might be the last one or close to it. I'll at least play through one more time for the secrets, perhaps on hard since true west sounds scary.
Also, the first Dalton Brothers mission with the bank was one of my favorites. The narration was amazing on that one.
Also, the first Dalton Brothers mission with the bank was one of my favorites. The narration was amazing on that one.
O.DOGG
Member
How many episodes are there? I just stopped when I got to episode 7 (3.7 hours play time according to Steam), which I feel like might be the last one or close to it. I'll at least play through one more time for the secrets, perhaps on hard since true west sounds scary.
Also, the first Dalton Brothers mission with the bank was one of my favorites. The narration was amazing on that one.
14 levels totals. You're about halfway.
It just boggles my mind. First of all that some devs actually announce FOV support, to me it reads like this: "Hey customer, we have added support so that you can actually play our game!" But then there are devs who don't even support FOV changes and that reads to me like this: "We have a product so highly specialized and exclusive that we don't even want you to buy it!"
So yeah, tested the demo on consoles for few minutes. Great stuff, RPS article is spot on. Might be a contender for best shooter of the year. But the Incgamers review is also pretty spot on with the FOV criticism. It's a great game some people can't play, including me.
Deputy Dangle
Member
I loved Bound in Blood and I'm really glad I ended up picking this up as well. Short, sweet, and just plain fun. Gunplay felt good on a controller as well. Surprisingly, this was one of the least offensive FOVs out of the poor ones recently. Didn't bother me at all.
Definitely one of my favorites games of the year so far.
Definitely one of my favorites games of the year so far.
jim2point0
Banned
I figured out how to extract the encrypted files, but changing the value for FOV isn't working the way it worked in Dead Island and whatnot. Not sure what to try next.
I did get the dev menu working though =)
I did get the dev menu working though =)
fastford58
Member
Hmmm...looks like a lot of positive buzz. I'll have to pick this one up I think.
EDIT: Avatar quote myself lol
EDIT: Avatar quote myself lol
Poimandres
Member
So is this down on Greenman Gaming or what?
I've been trying to buy it from there since last night, but it comes up with a 404 error when I try to purchase.
Any other way to get this on the cheap for PC?
I've been trying to buy it from there since last night, but it comes up with a 404 error when I try to purchase.
Any other way to get this on the cheap for PC?
Would you like to share how to extract the encrypted files and how to get the dev menu working?
Also I don't think the FOV has bothered me much, fortunately. Running with the view bob might bother me a little bit, but I don't think it's anywhere as bad as something like STALKER. Then again, I probably prefer FOV be thinner on a computer monitor, as opposed to the FOV's so wide that everything on the side is weirdly warped in diagonal fashion.
Honestly, $15 is quite a decent price in my opinion compared to $50-70 release games. I've been happy with the purchase. I would guess there will be a discount at some point during a Steam summer sale if you're okay with waiting, too.
EatChildren
Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
This game owns.
O.DOGG
Member
The game is a bargain at that price. Support the devs if you can afford it.
Ohh shit. EatChildrens seal of approval? Gonna need to hear more of your thoughts brah.
Wut? EatChildren posting something positive?
GOTY
I know I'm probabably singing praises too much and there may be eventual community backlash, as is the rule of initial positive impressions.
But I wanted to compliment the overall design of the game. It's pretty much a classic example of the whole being greater than the sum of its parts.
For example, take the mechanics. As I think the RPS review pointed out, it's the sort of thing people, like me, probably tend to avoid in games. Single-player, linear experience, a bunch of setpieces, regenerating health, blood splashes on the screen, automatic checkpoints, QTE's in places. How modern can you get, right? And yet they still let the player have fun, a LOT of fun sometimes. The shooting is pretty good, the guns are satisfying (though the normal shotgun could probably be more dramatic), the cover works acceptably.
Take the QTE's. QTE's are awful right? Except the ones here (I'm talking about the WASD ones, not the duel ones) have a few things going for them. One, if you fail you don't instantly die. If you press the wrong button for a guy who popped up behind you, or you mess up a chain of four guys surrounding you, you still keep playing, and you take them out the normal way. It's just a bonus. In one case someone popped up behind me, I hit the right button, and instantly spun and shot him for a Reflex bonus. That makes sense to me, game-wise -- you might sometimes have moments of instinct to take out someone sneaking up on you. Then three, still about QTE's, sometimes (always?) if you fail you have to pass a secondary test, which might be related to the sense of death thing you can charge. You get the slow motion bullet dodge. This is not hard, though I have occasionally screwed it up, and it's fun to do, and it at least sorta makes sense with gunslinger reflexes. And of course the enemies talk about it too, like "what the hell just happened, did you see that?". So all in all, they're not purely arbitrary, instant death, they're relatively fun, they're not overused, and you can play around them. They're sort of like QTE's done right, if you have to have them.
For another example, take say, the secrets you find. In some games, hunting secrets might be some pure filler to collect orbs, but these not only relate to the chapter you find them in, but they tend to have art from the time period, have an actual presumably true little story, and may even be interesting. They're cool things to pick up. The overall graphics design is pretty consistent (I say this not being a designer myself, just saying it's pleasant and doesn't feel disjointed).
For yet another example, take the cutscenes. I mentioned that the ingame models do not move their mouths to talk as far as I'm aware, which presumably helped the budget a little. Mirror's Edge is one of my favorite games, yet people criticized it for the cheesy animated cutscenes. That's a legitimate criticism, and it was jarring considering how the few first-person cutscenes they did were actually pretty decent. In Gunslinger, the cutscenes are entirely 2D. I think there is a technical term for the film technique they use or approximate, though I do not remember it. They move the camera over/zooming into static images, with maybe a couple of separate parts so different parts of the image shift. No animation other than that. And yet, the art is GOOD, and the voice acting is so fitting that it works pretty seamlessly with the normal gameplay. Lastly, the loading screens appear to be ingame captures, but with filters applied in such a way that they almost look like sepia tone photographs. They use a similar thing when gameplay pauses for narration changes or breaks, and it's pretty effective.
All of these things are small polish details, and might be lame if used by themselves, but the overall package is very cohesive and I'd like to think a lot of love went into it. I wouldn't want every game to be a linear shooter like this, but if you're going to do it I applaud this sort of design.
But I wanted to compliment the overall design of the game. It's pretty much a classic example of the whole being greater than the sum of its parts.
For example, take the mechanics. As I think the RPS review pointed out, it's the sort of thing people, like me, probably tend to avoid in games. Single-player, linear experience, a bunch of setpieces, regenerating health, blood splashes on the screen, automatic checkpoints, QTE's in places. How modern can you get, right? And yet they still let the player have fun, a LOT of fun sometimes. The shooting is pretty good, the guns are satisfying (though the normal shotgun could probably be more dramatic), the cover works acceptably.
Take the QTE's. QTE's are awful right? Except the ones here (I'm talking about the WASD ones, not the duel ones) have a few things going for them. One, if you fail you don't instantly die. If you press the wrong button for a guy who popped up behind you, or you mess up a chain of four guys surrounding you, you still keep playing, and you take them out the normal way. It's just a bonus. In one case someone popped up behind me, I hit the right button, and instantly spun and shot him for a Reflex bonus. That makes sense to me, game-wise -- you might sometimes have moments of instinct to take out someone sneaking up on you. Then three, still about QTE's, sometimes (always?) if you fail you have to pass a secondary test, which might be related to the sense of death thing you can charge. You get the slow motion bullet dodge. This is not hard, though I have occasionally screwed it up, and it's fun to do, and it at least sorta makes sense with gunslinger reflexes. And of course the enemies talk about it too, like "what the hell just happened, did you see that?". So all in all, they're not purely arbitrary, instant death, they're relatively fun, they're not overused, and you can play around them. They're sort of like QTE's done right, if you have to have them.
For another example, take say, the secrets you find. In some games, hunting secrets might be some pure filler to collect orbs, but these not only relate to the chapter you find them in, but they tend to have art from the time period, have an actual presumably true little story, and may even be interesting. They're cool things to pick up. The overall graphics design is pretty consistent (I say this not being a designer myself, just saying it's pleasant and doesn't feel disjointed).
For yet another example, take the cutscenes. I mentioned that the ingame models do not move their mouths to talk as far as I'm aware, which presumably helped the budget a little. Mirror's Edge is one of my favorite games, yet people criticized it for the cheesy animated cutscenes. That's a legitimate criticism, and it was jarring considering how the few first-person cutscenes they did were actually pretty decent. In Gunslinger, the cutscenes are entirely 2D. I think there is a technical term for the film technique they use or approximate, though I do not remember it. They move the camera over/zooming into static images, with maybe a couple of separate parts so different parts of the image shift. No animation other than that. And yet, the art is GOOD, and the voice acting is so fitting that it works pretty seamlessly with the normal gameplay. Lastly, the loading screens appear to be ingame captures, but with filters applied in such a way that they almost look like sepia tone photographs. They use a similar thing when gameplay pauses for narration changes or breaks, and it's pretty effective.
All of these things are small polish details, and might be lame if used by themselves, but the overall package is very cohesive and I'd like to think a lot of love went into it. I wouldn't want every game to be a linear shooter like this, but if you're going to do it I applaud this sort of design.
phantomspiker
Member
You really hit the nail on the head here. In this case QTE's do a great job of making the player feel like a total badass gunslinger from old spaghetti westerns.
Kydd BlaZe
Member
Damn...the other 4 games in your list pretty much mirror how I feel about the games that have come out this year so far. Looks like I need to give Gunslinger a shot. Haven't played it yet.
jim2point0
Banned
A present for you all (dev menu)
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=59077113&postcount=124
How to change FOV.
Navigate to install folder
Open "coj4" folder.
Open "Data0.pak" with winrar (or whatever you use)
Inside the archive, nagivate to: "\data\skills\"
Extract: "default_levels.xml" - password is TN2kTjNmBvn5axaS6tGY
Open that file and edit:
<prop n="CameraDefaultFOV" v="XX.X"/>
Save the file and drag it back to the same location in the archive
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=59077113&postcount=124
How to change FOV.
Navigate to install folder
Open "coj4" folder.
Open "Data0.pak" with winrar (or whatever you use)
Inside the archive, nagivate to: "\data\skills\"
Extract: "default_levels.xml" - password is TN2kTjNmBvn5axaS6tGY
Open that file and edit:
<prop n="CameraDefaultFOV" v="XX.X"/>
Save the file and drag it back to the same location in the archive
jim2point0
Banned
A friend of mine tried that and says its not working. It works for me, but I have the game running in windowed mode. Not sure if that makes a difference. I'll have to test it a bit
