Can a proper gamer ignore Nintendo games?
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Phoenician_Viking
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Lol._Alkaline_ said:
demosthenes
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Nintendork22 said:
Brought up on Nintendo so I'll probably always get the Nintendo systems sometime in their lifetime. Since the PS2 though I've been in love w/ Playstation and the games on Playstation.
Right now though I think I'll be able to pass on the 3DS....that is until a true Pokemon game comes out for it ;_;.
_Alkaline_ said:
Sony first/second party was giving them a run for their money at the start of this gen and have surpassed them this gen now.
DCharlie
And even i am moderately surprised
and if we want to look where in that list it is (including borderlines) ?
Gradius V
Bangai-O
Radiant Silvergun
Ikaruga
Bangai-O Spirits
Sin and Punishment
Sin and Punishment 2
Silpheed
so no, i wouldn't consider S+P one of the best Treasure shooters. Not that it's a bad game by any stretch, it's good infact. Just in some pretty good company
Disagreed - on the surface they look similar but underneath they are completely different beasts. Love both of the series with a passion.
I grew up on PC in the 90's and have never really owned a Nintendo console (borrowed, but never bought). I have never really been interested in their franchises and I think much of Nintendo's branding (from a visual and technical standpoint) is too archaic and too broad-appealing to my liking. There is obviously fun to be had with many of their games, they just do not appeal to my tastes at all (but same could be said of Microsoft for that matter).
MrBelmontvedere
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what the heck is a "proper gamer?"
whatever I have no desire to be a "proper gamer" anyway. in fact the idea is so offensive to me I'm considering quitting all Nintendo consoles and games simply out of spite
whatever I have no desire to be a "proper gamer" anyway. in fact the idea is so offensive to me I'm considering quitting all Nintendo consoles and games simply out of spite
Phoenician_Viking
Banned
Perfect post and i salute you good sir.Foxtastical said:
2San said:
You do know that many people rank S&P2 as one of the best games by Treasure right?
I dont own S&P2 and i'm not projecting my own opinion here. I say it as i see it.
2San said:
Thats one way to dismiss it, i guess.
2San said:
PGR = Project Gotham Racing?
What?
2San said:
One is not like the others, and that just proves my point. You miss this game, you miss one of the best in its style/genre, whatever.
2San said:
One is not like the others, and that just proves my point. You miss this game, you miss one of the best in its style/genre, whatever.
2San said:
One is not like the others, and that just proves my point. You miss this game, you miss one of the best in its style/genre, whatever.
The "there isnt much competition anyway" argument just proves my point.
Thanks
Princess Skittles
Prince's's 'Skittle's
Well, in general I think "proper gamers" should just play what they want/enjoy.
But damned if I can't deny that a lot of Nintendo games should be "required reading."
But damned if I can't deny that a lot of Nintendo games should be "required reading."
What's a "proper gamer"?
I've been a fan of Nintendo games since I got my first Game & Watch in 1982. I'm always interested in their games and they've made some brilliant ones over the years. I'm excited to see what the Wii U brings, even though after my initial burst of enthusiasm with the Wii I found it to be a huge disappointment.
I've been a fan of Nintendo games since I got my first Game & Watch in 1982. I'm always interested in their games and they've made some brilliant ones over the years. I'm excited to see what the Wii U brings, even though after my initial burst of enthusiasm with the Wii I found it to be a huge disappointment.
Willy105 said:
I'm actually boycotting Nintendo since the beginning of the gen since they didn't bring Last Story and Xenoblade over. Japanese company not bringing Japanese games over. What a crock.
Princess Skittles said:
Go read Moby Dick while I'm reading Lord of the Flies, brah.
Again my point is there are enough games to keep you busy so you don't really have to bother with those games. If you however are a platformer fan. You'd be out of your might not to play SMG. However if you like arcade racers, shmups, strategy, fighters, you'll survive just fine without a Nintendo console.MYE said:
PGR4 is pretty much the best arcade racers I played this gen.
In my experience having a HD console + PC offers way more fulfilling experience. Then the Wii+any other combo would provide.
Starwolf_UK
Member
How do we define Nintendo. To me its stengths lie in that everybody listens to them (if a good idea is done by Nintendo everyone notices, same with a bad one) but also the developers more external to them such as Camelot (with Mairo Tennis and Golf, the RPG elements of the handheld ones in particular).
We can be more witty than this. Let's think (probably said 8 times already); "Can a proper Nintendo ignore Nintendo games? They can if they are NOA"TheBranca18 said:
Once in a while (like in every few years) i borrow a nintendo console from a friend to play Mario games and gave it back after i am done with them.
Never got in to Zelda games, one of the most boring action aprgs i have ever played as storywise and challenge. But i like Mario games!
Last year i borrowed a Wii from a friend and got Galaxy 1,2 and TP. Ugh couldnt finish the first few hours of TP due to slow start up. But Galaxy games were awesome!
Never got in to Zelda games, one of the most boring action aprgs i have ever played as storywise and challenge. But i like Mario games!
Last year i borrowed a Wii from a friend and got Galaxy 1,2 and TP. Ugh couldnt finish the first few hours of TP due to slow start up. But Galaxy games were awesome!
Lance Bone Path
Member
I don't find it puzzling at all.richiek said:
You'll also find people who call themselves animation fans who won't watch Disney movies even if they know how influential Disney has been. I haven't liked Disney's recent output at any rate.
SolidusDave
Member
When I was a kid and owned a SNES, I played a lot of Nintendo games. But I would say my favorite SNES games are Terranigma and Mario Kart - only due to it's local MP though.
I played most of the Mario games on my original Gameboy and was already kinda saturated, only played (the awesome) Yoshi's Island on the SNES.
My friend bought a N64, but it felt like more of the same (the first 3D Zelda was great though, tons of Smash Brothers mp as well), so I decided to buy a PS1.
Hardly ever spend a thought on the Gamecube...
The Wii certainly ddidn't lure me back to Nintendo, even when ignoring all that casual shit. I acknowledge that SMG etc. are probably great in their respective gameplay genre, but it still doesn't feel like I miss out. At least for me it's not enough to buy another console (that isn't even good by any standards).
Also, nowadays Nintendo's visual design and flat characters, story, everything around the core gameplay repel me to no end.
I'm not even a big fan of the genres/subgenres of Nintendo's biggest franchises, so that's the other thing (or god forbid there are better alternatives on the other platforms available). Local mp (with more than 2 players) also doesn't happen as often as in my childhood.
Sorry for not being a proper gamer!
I played most of the Mario games on my original Gameboy and was already kinda saturated, only played (the awesome) Yoshi's Island on the SNES.
My friend bought a N64, but it felt like more of the same (the first 3D Zelda was great though, tons of Smash Brothers mp as well), so I decided to buy a PS1.
Hardly ever spend a thought on the Gamecube...
The Wii certainly ddidn't lure me back to Nintendo, even when ignoring all that casual shit. I acknowledge that SMG etc. are probably great in their respective gameplay genre, but it still doesn't feel like I miss out. At least for me it's not enough to buy another console (that isn't even good by any standards).
Also, nowadays Nintendo's visual design and flat characters, story, everything around the core gameplay repel me to no end.
I'm not even a big fan of the genres/subgenres of Nintendo's biggest franchises, so that's the other thing (or god forbid there are better alternatives on the other platforms available). Local mp (with more than 2 players) also doesn't happen as often as in my childhood.
Sorry for not being a proper gamer!
Lance Bone Path said:
huh if you're a fan of animation made in the US and never watch anything by Disney, you basically are NOT a fan of animation made in the US.
You are a fan of the other studios but that's all.
And I actually mean anything financed by Disney not just the stuffs Pixar does.
You've got a right to dislike it to your heart content but to not even be aware of what they're doing is downright laughable if you call yourself a fan of animation made in the US.
Like these laughable so called hardcore gamers that cried tears of blood when they saw Wiifit being announced or GTAIV failing as hard as it did at 'saving' 'true' 'gaming' or something.
chaosblade
Unconfirmed Member
It's probably been said, but I think ignoring or not owning Nintendo platforms means you're definitely missing out on some great games. But at the same time, that applies to just about every platform ever.
As long as you're content with the systems you own and the games that get released for them, I don't see how there could be a problem. If you're whining because of release droughts or exclusives for other systems but haven't picked up any other platform(s), then there could be issues.
As long as you're content with the systems you own and the games that get released for them, I don't see how there could be a problem. If you're whining because of release droughts or exclusives for other systems but haven't picked up any other platform(s), then there could be issues.
2San said:
Again, i have no problem whatsoever with people who dont find enough exclusive games on Sony, Nintendo or Microsoft consoles to warrant a purchase. My main issue, and why i'm still posting in this thread, is to point out that anyone who says they dont like anything Nintendo (or Sony) produces is making one hell of a generalization. Stretching that claim back to the snes days is just absurd.
There is just too much content there for one person to deslike from start to end without making others wonder if the one common thing, the sticker on the box, has anything to do with it. Thats clearly not the same as saying "i can live without them" or "i chose to spend my money elsewhere".
Phoenician_Viking
Banned
Maybe he knew Other M was comingMael said:
mclaren777
Member
My feelings exactly.Draft said:
I used to love Nintendo but I feel that they lost their creative spark about 10 years ago.
Lance Bone Path
Member
Why are you strawmanning "animation fan" into "fan of animation made in the US" when I never said anything of that sort (or are you just a fan of non-sequiturs?), and why are you saying that being financed by a company the same as being developed by that company?Mael said:
Rhetorical questions, probably. Did I hit a nerve?
_Alkaline_
Member
BadWolf said:
I find statements like this interesting.
They're not inherently wrong or anything, but I'm curious as to how people lump Nintendo software into one singular pile. It's far too varied for that.
When people say "Nintendo games don't appeal to me," they simply cannot be talking in a pure game design sense given the extreme variety in their software and IPs.
Is it purely an aesthetic thing?
I think the salient point is that if a gamer chooses to omit one or more console from their roster then which one would result in missing the least amount of AAA games?
For me it seemed that between PS3 and 360 I was getting most of the big games. It smarted the most to miss some really cool PC only titles. I know there were some great Nintendo titles based off the age-old franchises but I felt I could miss those. There's already enough going on in the industry to keep going constantly back to Mario or Zelda decade after decade.
For me it seemed that between PS3 and 360 I was getting most of the big games. It smarted the most to miss some really cool PC only titles. I know there were some great Nintendo titles based off the age-old franchises but I felt I could miss those. There's already enough going on in the industry to keep going constantly back to Mario or Zelda decade after decade.
I love how you think there is a Nintendo game for everyones taste btw. I find it amusing how you cannot possibly fathom how there are people amongst the 5 billion+ humans on this earth that fit the criteria of not liking a game since gamexyz or even never, ever liking any Nintendo game.MYE said:
throwawayname
Member
I do.
Beam said:Maybe he knew Other M was coming
Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
I knew there was something I forgot to tell myself!
Lance Bone Path said:
Because I'm taking the argument to its natural conclusion here.
Animation is far more diverse than games anyway so I reduced the perimeter a little.
As such if you're actively boycotting their product you're not a fan since they represent the elephant in the room, can you be a fan of race cars if you disregard the biggest player in the room?
Can you consider yourself a MMO buff if you never even touched WoW?
Seriously that's basically the question here.
Seriously the guy who was crying over how the Wiimote is dumb and should burn in a fire and then champion the Move like its life depends on it, is NOT a fan if anything.
Seriously that other guy that claim that when presented with all the examples of games exclusive to that white platform go and claim that somehow PGR is the same as Mario Kart but better (seriously might as well have claimed that he preferred vehicles in Halo while he was at it) is the epitome of not knowing WTH you're talking about.
Note how I'm not saying you have to like them at all.
Starwolf_UK said:
Nah my wittiness has a limit actually.
Mael said:
I've avoided Nintendo products since they refused to acknowledge the brilliance of Zelda II and Wind Waker.
_Alkaline_ said:
I think it's hard to be on NeoGAF and be ignorant about video games. I mean I'm sure it happens but I think a ton of view points are represented on here. You set up a strawman though. I don't think the people worth responding to are actually saying Nintendo is only Zelda and Mario. They are the two most well known franchises however even if their sales don't correspond to that in Zelda's case.
People who have CoD disease just don't see the appeal of a Nintendo console, considering the very thing they love is not represented well at all. I don't see how that's hard to see. I think RPGs is another area where Nintendo just doesn't have the breadth of other companies as far as their console.
I mean we're not going to come to a consensus but this elitist attitude reminds me of the console peasants of PC Gamers, even said in jest.
VanMardigan
has calmed down a bit.
I grew up a huge Nintendo fan. The Wii is the first Nintendo console that I never owned. The WiiU, based on what I've seen so far, will be the second. I regret owning the 3DS.
Zelda and Mario can only take you so far.
Zelda and Mario can only take you so far.
_Alkaline_
Member
MYE said:
Yeah, I've read your posts and I think you've got a decent argument.
I don't mean to generalise here, but to merely state "they don't appeal to me" seems ignorant - even bias.
At the very least a reason should be given, but a legitimate reason at that. Saying "I don't like Zelda or Mario" comes across as almost laughable given it's hardly as if they're the only two franchises Nintendo attends to.
Nintendo software is highly varied. It doesn't cover every single genre but most are represented (and in some areas perfected).
I don't want to come across as defending Nintendo. In fact I would loathe to. But software is one thing that is difficult to call Nintendo out on.
beelzebozo
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mclaren777 said:
you are either severely misinformed or completely delusional.
no developer is MORE creative. you take the most superficial elements of games and fail to realize that within series that you ignorantly dismiss creativity is flourishing.