Can The Last of Us Part 2 top GT3 as the best selling Sony game ever?

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No, because of the M rating. Its just like how PG-13 movies generally do better than Rated R movies. More audience appeal and less restrictions.
 
The PS4 will sit at 80+ million and cost $150 by the time TLOUP2 comes out. So it couldn't happen at a better moment.

It'll need to be bundled everywhere, and the release date will be important as well obviously. But I think it can happen.

Yes, it's an M-rated story-driven game but people underestimate how popular it is. Very few franchises have that kind of power right now.
 
lumi7890 said:
I think it's possible, the first game sold a lot and I think the sequel has a lot oh hype behind it, but at the same time I think death stranding will probably be the one to pull it off, simply because it's Kojima first new ip in a long time.
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I dont think that is reasonable to expect. Death Stranding dont look like the kind of game that would sell 15 million. Kojima games are not for everyone.

QuantumBro said:
If Uncharted 4 couldn't top it, it's not happening. I don't think Naughty Dog cares either since they probably break even on development between 3-5 million copies.
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Uncharted 4 is just 9 months old though. It will probably top 11-12 million LTD.

NOLA_Gaffer said:
Nah. The racing genre appeals to all ages and genders. Shooting zombies appeals to a much smaller niche.
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I think shooting zombies is hugely more mainstream and popular in today's age than racing tbh.
 
BoxManLocke said:
The PS4 will sit at 80+ million and cost $150 by the time TLOUP2 comes out. So it couldn't happen at a better moment.
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PS3 still costs $200 [not counting various discounts]. Don't expect PS4 to go below that price not only in next few years, but EVER.
 
Doubt it, GT3 came out early in the PS2 life cycle when the PS2 was the hottest thing to get and it was still riding the huge success from GT2 and PS1. PS4 is doing well, but the market has shifted from racing games along with the large library the PS4 already has, so the hunger for the next GT game won't reach that high.

DieH@rd said:
PS3 still costs $200 [not counting various discounts]. Don't expect PS4 to go below that price not only in next few years, but EVER.
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I feel we will see a return to sub $200 this gen for consoles seeing that Sony didn't invest a huge amount of development cost into a unique exclusive design. We're already seeing Slim prices this last holiday season drop to the low $200's and with the Pro out and soon Scorpio, sub $200 seems realistic.
 
Floody said:
Maybe, the first game was huge, so it's has a massive audience already and it'll probably be the PS4's swansong and get ported to PS5.



We do know what it is and unless something goes badly wrong with it's development it'll probably be out before 2019 (when I think the PS5 will be announced/released), they wouldn't have announced it if they thought it'd be a PS5 launch title.

Edit: Actually I think God of War has the better shot, game seems to have a ton of hype.
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By what it is I mean we have nothing outside of that teaser trailer. We have a pretty good guess of things already, but I'm just saying we don't really have any information about the actual game besides what we can intuit based on the fact that it's a sequel. I'm not saying TLoU2 is suddenly gonna be a MOBA or whatever, I'm just saying wait until we have an actual story trailer before making a thread asking if it's going to be the highest selling Sony IP ever.

Also you're probably right, but they could be intending for it to be out before 2019 but plans can change. Development can take longer than anticipated, and you can just look at this generation to see how long it's taken Sony 1st party to get going. Delays aren't unheard of and it could transition into a launch title, although at that point it would probably be cross-gen a la Persona 5/Zelda
 
PS2 was a monster of word of mouth

It will be very difficult. But games are breaking records nowadays left and right
 
Hedgey said:
GT3 was on the best selling console of all time, and was massive with the European market, most of which I can probably assume were casual gamers.
Obviously just my opinion, but I don't think it could happen while we have home consoles at $300.
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GT5 was bigger and it was on PS3.

GT3 European sales: 5.85 million
GT5 European sales: 7.38 million

Reason why GT3 sold so much was that it was massively bundled in NA. It has sold 3 milion more than the next best selling GT in NA.
 
Bitch Pudding said:
Abraham would fit yours while we're at it.

Why exactly are we talking about TLOU ending anyhow?
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TLoU Part 2 is a sequel to TLoU, which means it takes place after the events of TLoU. Kinda like how Uncharted 2 continues off of Uncharted. If you haven't played TLoU, you probably shouldn't be in a thread about the sequel.

Memento said:
Uncharted 4 is just 9 months old though. It will probably top 11-12 million LTD.
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Doesn't change what I said in my post, if Uncharted 4 can't do it, neither will TLoU2. Uncharted 4 also has the luxury of being included with almost every PS4 sold this holiday season.
 
Stealth_Cobra said:
The Last of Us is a story-heavy series. I'm not sure that many newcomers will jump into TLOU2 wihout having played TLOU1 first... It's like starting a tv show at season five... Usually you try to track down previous seasons to "catch up to the plot". Some peole won't mind, of course, and I'm sure marketing will spin it so it feels like a standalone product to avoid this situation, but still, doubt that many will jump in without getting the first game.

As such , I expect either similar sale numbers on TLOU2 than on TLOU1. What could happen though is that , due to TLOU2 , TLOU1 gets a resurgence of sales, as newcomers want to catch up... Heck, maybe part 1 will end up being the one that break records, as new potential buyers get tempted by the HD remake, especially if it's at a low price (got mine for next to nothing during the halloween sales).

But alas, I think the numbers will probably stay similar... Unless Naughty Dog redefines gameplay and creates something that seems "must own" for gamers that weren't interested in TLOU1's gameplay and story heavy type of gameplay.
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Plenty of people jump into sequels without having played the first one. But there will be some people who are apprehensive about it for the reasons you stated.

However I don't think the marketing will promote that part 2 is stand alone. At least not if Druckman has anything to say about it. It's very clear that he wants part 2 to be a continuation of part 1. You can't have 1 without the other. Hence 'part 2', not just a sequel number.

From my own circle of friends, everyone who didn't have a psn last gen and got ps4 loves TLoU. And everyone who had neither think part 2 looks sick and are well aware of the reputation the game has. That makes them very interested.
 
Memento said:
Uncharted 4 is just 9 months old though. It will probably top 11-12 million LTD.
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TLOU also outsold the PS3 Uncharted games I believe. The entire Uncharted series (PS3 trilogy plus the Vita game) was at 21M in spring 2015.

The Last of Us had hit 7M on PS3 (and 1M on PS4) by Aug 2014.
 
Uncharted 4 is on pace to sell probably 12 million copies lifetime and this is after a third game some people consider inferior to the previous Uncharted titles. If Uncharted 4 can get within shouting distance then I think Last of Us 2 has a shot. Will it top GT3? Probably not, but I'm not ruling out the possibility
 
I would say extremely doubtful. GT3's appeal hit every market and was a product of its time. Car dealerships had the thing set up in the lobby to "test drive" vehicles. Car fans, graphics snobs, gaming enthusiasts, average folk wowed by the scope and tech... My dean in high school raved about GT3 at the time.

What did the kids in 2001's The Fast and the Furious do after their race got shut down by the cops? Went home and played Gran Turismo.

Last of Us will be a sequel to a narrative driven game and stars a teenage girl. It'll sell a lot but I'm not seeing it. Maybe 2017 will surprise me.
 
GT3 was released early in the gen and had all the benifits of that.

TLOU2 will release at the end of a gen and will do OK but I dont expect it to have a long tail. Will do amazing early but I expect similar sales to TLOU1
 
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funkystudent said:
GT3 was released early in the gen and had all the benifits of that.

TLOU2 will release at the end of a gen and will do OK but I dont expect it to have a long tail. Will do amazing early but I expect similar sales to TLOU1
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It it releases in 2019 I could see it getting a PS5 version too
 
HStallion said:
I wasn't really being specific to the PS4 though. I just meant in general.
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Yep but the question is what has sold more than GT3 and is M rated. The answer is GTA and COD (I would think one of them must have although last gen COD trended very MS heavy).
 
Memento said:
These numbers are all over the place. UC3 is at ~10 million right now. TLOU too.

Also, I know it makes us feel old, but GT5 released 7 years ago in 2010.

The industry has changed a lot and it hasnt been very good to the racing genre.
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Then let's go off numbers from the official site which show GT5 selling over 11 million.

Racing games are still selling millions this gen, just look at Forza and Project Cars. It's also not filled with an abundance of games, unlike the cinematic shooter genre.
 
Memento said:
It it releases in 2019 I could see it getting a PS5 version too
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I doubt The Last of Us 2 is a 2019 title. If you don't count that voice over teaser when PS4 launched, the first media we got on UC4 was E3 2014. Even with the half year delay, it was out in less than 2 years.

The Last of Us was first shown about 18 months before it was released. Uncharted 3 was announced less than a year before launch.

My guess is the second half of 2018.
 
I mean does it matter?

Isnt the quality of the game more imoortant than to how much it makes. If you think about how much the first oart did its safe dont you think
 
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