Quebec numbers seem to be going up for the NDP slowly in the poll tracker lately.I find that interesting.Unless a miracle happens it looks like that the conservatives are going to be close to 40 seats or under 40 seats in Ontario on election night.
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Canadian General Election (OT) - #elxn42: October 19, 2015
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Quebec numbers seem to be going up for the NDP slowly in the poll tracker lately.I find that interesting.Unless a miracle happens it looks like that the conservatives are going to be close to 40 seats or under 40 seats in Ontario on election night.
Yep. I think this has got to be the closest three way races around. Given that it's a new riding with no incumbent or historical data it can be expected that pragmatic ABC voters would support whichever party is currently leading.
The last poll from mid September showed the NDP ahead, but that was prior to the Quebec debates when the party was still in the mix.
It's funny, Canada was at one point quite ahead of the curve with political satire TV, but once Jon Stewart took over the Daily Show I think our shows failed to catch up and now most of the audience that would watch them probably just watch the Daily Show instead.
Of course, the same could be said for sketch comedy as well, where SCTV and KITH were both imo much better than American contemporaries, but now that the US has caught on to their methods there's basically no audience left for Canadian sketchcom.
I should probably keep my expectations in check since there is still about a week left but...
CPC minority? Yes, that's happening.
We're down to Mercer yelling at a drunk cameraman, oneliners read by fake newscasters, and pranksters terrorizing innocent Montrealers.
Uh, giant population tho. Please vote more NDP.
This thread is very pro Liberal now. If you like they're policies more that's cool, but Mulcair hate and Trudeau love is baffling to me.
Sapiens
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Hilarious if true.
Especially after the NDP was spreading nonsense that they were going to defeat Justin in his own riding, yes.
The difference there is it will be from supporters, instead of straight from the party's coffers and onto the airwaves.
The GG is in no way bound by anything Harper asks him to do.
After the last few stunts he's pulled, I think the GG may just sit him down this time and spell things out for him.
oneils
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Crazy if true. I always wondered why Desrochers and McLeod didn't join the race. This story is nuts but makes sense at the same time. Strange.
From what I understand, new estimates need to be tabled by March 31st at the latest, after that the government runs out of money.
I don't think Harper would ever do that, anyway, as already stated above. It would devastate the party's long-term prospects for no real gain. And I'm pretty sure that Johnston would feel compelled to force the issue before then, anyway.
Sakura
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Mansbridge asked him on his one on one, if he would try to stay as Prime Minister. He said he would step down as Prime Minister even if he was down just a couple seats. I doubt Harper is lying, and it wouldn't really be beneficial, as it would make them look very bad in the next election.
If there is a Liberal government, the Conservatives will likely ride it out, then refer to it as a Liberal test that ultimately 'failed' in their campaign or something. They won't pointlessly try to hold onto power.
Truly, no one could have predicted this outcome.
But seeing Mulcair's poor performance, you can't be surprised after the fact.
Hilarious if true.
I think that site has a bunch of weird riding results including the results for the riding of Outremont. Also it is possible to hate Mulcair, but don't take it into the extreme.
gutter_trash
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it was a Liberal stronghold for a long time
It's just uniform swing being uniform swing. The NDP release was at least a (yes, flawed) riding poll.
Incumbency and star power should be giving mulcair at boost a least to be a bit above the liberal candidate.Despite being down in Quebec I expect mulcair to keep his seat.
Stumpokapow
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John Abbott and John Morgan were freaking geniuses and are solely missed. Canadian satire never recovered from their loss.
gutter_trash
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Outremont is 3 parts:
1 part Hipster.
1 part Orthodox Jewish
1 part upper middle class to rich.
only the Hipster part is a lock, the other 2 are not
Term limits are an unfair cap on the choices of the voters. If you have impartial riding design, like we do, the people within that riding should be able to choose anybody who wants to stand for election; if you've got a great MP, I see no reason why you shouldn't be allowed to elect him/her to as many terms as you want.
Simon Belmont
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You could maybe set a limit in amount of years, but I think the electorate is smart enough to show someone the door when it's time.
Stumpokapow
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But for whom would we set a "limit"? How would that impact the role of Prime Minister, which barely formally exists?
Simon Belmont
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Yeah, I actually didn't see the edit until after I had posted. Wouldn't it be basically up to the parties themselves to set that as a party bylaw? It just doesn't make sense in a Canadian context without a tremendous amount of public pressure to do so.
Yeah, without moving to a republican system I don't think term limits are practical in Canada. And I hope we never move to a republican system. I'm in favour of further limiting the powers of the PMO, not giving them additional legitimacy.
killer rin
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I'm not too sure about that. True, it would solve some issues; but at the same time given our parliamentary system, it would completely screw up the game. I think just changing the Electoral System to something like MMP would do a much better job since it would force the parties to cooperate, make concessions and form coalitions.
Sakura
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We aren't the US. Our system does not work like theirs. I am not even sure what point there would be to a term limit.
Simon Belmont
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About as much point as fixed election dates.
chaobreaker
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I just got my siblings to register to vote for next week. It's their first federal election when their of age but I suggest both to vote Liberal. Our riding is a close tie between them and CPC.
I know it looks bad now with Emperor Harper but the lack of a two term limit can be good too. I think Trudeau had like four terms and that was because he was getting shit done. If I were an American, I would probably rather keep Obama on as President than take a chance on someone like Hillary.
I think Yugoslavia had one guy (Tito) for like 40 years and he was damn good from what I've read.
gutter_trash
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especially since one of the US's best Presidents did not limit himself to two terms
Air Farce was terrible. 22 is all the Canadian cnetric skit comedy we need.
I've never met Garneau, though I did meet John Glenn when my dad and I went down to Ohio in 2008 to campaign for Barack Obama.
I'm certain what's going to happen to Trudeau is exactly what happened to McGuinty when he took over from Harris in Ontario.
They're going to open the books, brush away all the bullshit "surplus" window dressing, and see what an absolute shit show Canada's finances actually are. You know, the stuff that only "Honourable Members" are allowed to see.
Air Farce has always sucked. 22 Minutes has only sucked since Rick Mercer left.
Simon Belmont
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At least he'll have a pot tax to enact. I don't think McGuinty had a popular tax to enact.
Simon Belmont
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Well it's nice to know Justin Trudeau will have an easy time passing that legislation.
Nice. He should have said that from the start.
That too. Even with a CPC minority, it looks like we'll at least get some progress.
it's basically legal (at least in BC) already so I don't know if this is even a traction issue. maybe they're trying to limit the differences for the one issue first time voters.
So you are expecting a repeat of what happened with the recent Alberta election after this election were the winner of the election has to come in and figure out the financial situation of the federal government and try to fix it.The alberta example is an extreme version of what you described above.
Also, tiktaalik I think that was the ndp's plan the whole time. I do think they were just planning to decriminalize the drug once they got into office and slowly legalize it.
killer rin
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Just add it to the pile of things that will be done the second Harper doesn't get a Majority.
man we are going to become so progressive in the next four years, aren't we?
I think it'll pretty high up considering that multiple states have already legalized it and/or on the road towards legalization. Getting ahead of the trend means that Canada will be better positioned to write their own legislation without much influence from the United States.
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