Charlie Kirk assassinated at Utah campus event



I mean...even Tylenol issued warnings:



Anything happen to their baby, these crazy women probably going to blame Trump regardless.


"I'm gonna really stick it to Trump and take this whole bottle of Tylenol!" Honestly I would think taking any medication while pregnant should be discouraged regardless of what is or isn't considered "safe". Look up thalidomide (yes I know its an extreme example) if you aren't familiar and you really want to scare someone straight for pregnancy medication.
 
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I feel like we're going to lose our one politics venting thread if we get too far off topic... on the actual case here, is there any new information in past couple of days? I've been very busy, but waiting to hear more about the broader investigation. I hope they release everything they find about the chat logs etc of people Tyler was involved with. It doesn't matter if they explicitly were planning it with him -- even knowing he wanted to do it is damning.
Just to be clear, I posted the ICE thing because it could be another example of extreme left violence, which has been discussed in this thread. If EviLore EviLore wants me to drop it I will.

Updates on the Charlie Kirk investigation will likely take a while, so unless we're humoring conspiracy theories, there isn't much to to discuss atm.
 
It's very likely related either way, just like the Kimmel situation was, the FCC discussion was, the guy shooting up the ABC station was, the Antifa designation was etc. It's all ripples from the assassination.

My gut says this dude will have been wearing a MAGA hat and shouting 'this is MAGA country' as he opened fire, with eagles carved into his bullet casings. It's the optimal play by the left rn.
 
Just to be clear, I posted the ICE thing because it could be another example of extreme left violence, which has been discussed in this thread. If EviLore EviLore wants me to drop it I will.

Updates on the Charlie Kirk investigation will likely take a while, so unless we're humoring conspiracy theories, there isn't much to to discuss atm.
Yeah, seems related due to the political violence connection, IMO.
 
It's very likely related either way, just like the Kimmel situation was, the FCC discussion was, the guy shooting up the ABC station was, the Antifa designation was etc. It's all ripples from the assassination.

My gut says this dude will have been wearing a MAGA hat and shouting 'this is MAGA country' as he opened fire, with eagles carved into his bullet casings. It's the optimal play by the left rn.
Taking a page out of the Jussie Smollett playbook.
 
It isn't organized. If someone says they are antifa and does bad shit and feds go after them….i have no problem with that, obviously. I'll leave it at that.
So what do you mean by not organized then? That they don't have one HQ instructing all of their members nationwide? In that case, sure, maybe not nation wide but even then it's up for debate because they always show up places with the same signs and gear. Nevertheless, it's organized within their sects. Seattle Antifa has leaders, same as Portland Antifa and those leaders organize the protests and riots.

The biggest red flag is all of these media organizations calling them decentralized all of a sudden like it's on some sort of block chain and no one has any control. If they started saying the KKK wasn't organized, people would believe that too. Which is another organization that should be labelled terrorist.
Freedom is the only way yeah.
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Reclaim the Net is a great resource but you'll be castrated on Reddit or any left leaning site due to their interpretation of it being "Alt-Right."

They see it as such because in recent past it's mostly left wing politicians(like 95%) and tech CEOs putting out Orwellian laws but they do call out both sides.
 
It's very likely related either way, just like the Kimmel situation was, the FCC discussion was, the guy shooting up the ABC station was, the Antifa designation was etc. It's all ripples from the assassination.

My gut says this dude will have been wearing a MAGA hat and shouting 'this is MAGA country' as he opened fire, with eagles carved into his bullet casings. It's the optimal play by the left rn.

Of course you wouldn't possibly accept that the guy could be from the right, even if all of that and more were true. At the very least, the dead people weren't working for ICE.

Objectively, folks should not jump to conclusions without evidence...and that includes excluding possibilities that you simply dislike, by assuming they must be "false flags".
 
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This seems to be because of Charlie Kirk's murder.


I wonder what the show is like and if they're going to edit stuff from it.

The show follows Chastain's character infiltrating online hate groups in order to stop violence being committed in the US. It was loosely inspired by a 2019 Cosompolitan article that describes an investigator known as the Savant as "an elite investigator who tracks angry men online".

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So treat groups like that all the same and if they come back then have a terrorist label attached to them. No matter if they're left or right. We do the same to groups like ISIS so why not to every group. Don't pick and choose is what I'm saying.
At this point most "right wing extremist groups" seem to be so infiltrated by the feds, they are basically run by the FBI.

If antifa goes down the same fate, all the better, then the government will have right and left wing groups they can mobilize at will to keep both sides fighting.
 
So what do you mean by not organized then? That they don't have one HQ instructing all of their members nationwide? In that case, sure, maybe not nation wide but even then it's up for debate because they always show up places with the same signs and gear. Nevertheless, it's organized within their sects. Seattle Antifa has leaders, same as Portland Antifa and those leaders organize the protests and riots.

The biggest red flag is all of these media organizations calling them decentralized all of a sudden like it's on some sort of block chain and no one has any control. If they started saying the KKK wasn't organized, people would believe that too. Which is another organization that should be labelled terrorist.

If that is the case then fair enough. Doesn't really mean much until they break the law either way. If they do, like I said above, they will have a big federal target squared up on them. I don't have a problem with that at all. Prosecuting criminals is a good thing.
 
Of course you wouldn't possibly accept that the guy could be from the right, even if all of that and more were true. At the very least, the dead people weren't working for ICE.

Objectively, folks should not jump to conclusions without evidence...and that includes excluding possibilities that you simply dislike, by assuming they must be "false flags".
Why would a guy "on the right" shoot ICE agents or detainees? Presumably the detainees in the van were being brought there to be DEPORTED. Maybe the shooter was hoping to hit the drivers and just got folks in the back instead? If this was an incoming immigrant processing center or one of those big welcome camps, might be a different story. Then again, the shooter apparently offed themself so we may never know.
 
Live stream of the press conference. They're still setting up.

I just heard one of the journalists ask the sheriff about writing on the shell casings at the tail in there.

Edit: I guess other people are confirming it. I'm not just hearing things.
 
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When did people start writing stuff on bullets. I know in WW2 soldiers wrote messages on bombs, but bullets? Who writes a message on a bullet.
The New Zealand mosque shooter had messages all over his weapons and live-streamed it. Started a trend for online radicalization mass shootings where they show off for their audience and make sure their ideology is known. Recent trans church shooter did the same thing.
 
When did people start writing stuff on bullets. I know in WW2 soldiers wrote messages on bombs, but bullets? Who writes a message on a bullet.
It's not on the bullets, it's on the casings. They usually expect the casings will be found and analyzed. Their message can get out via the media even if they get killed by law enforcement. It's the same reason some shooters leave a manifesto or long letter explaining their thoughts, feelings, motives, goals, etc.
 
Just read the news now about the ICE centre shooting.

Let's face it. Big shooting events in the US are still front page news, but it gets to a point of it being normalized. A week later and it's off to the next shooting. That Routh guy found guilty I totally forgot about. I thought the Trump shooter got shot by a sniper, but forgot about the golf course shooting. That's how out of mind was is due to how many shootings there are!

But thats what you get in partial part due to big extremes in political views and easy access to guns. That's a bad combo. You dont see too many crazy people trying to kill as many people as possible with a knife or baseball bat. But a gun will do that in record time.

So many wacko people (US and globally), and here I am off to lunch and the biggest mindbending decision I got is where to eat!
 
It is crazy to me that these people are so algorithmed that they commit Al Queda style suicide attacks over… checks notes… illegal immigrants being deported. Maybe put the down phone instead going full retard?
 
I'll wait until Jimmy Kimmel confirms the motive. I don't trust law enforcement.
"According to Jimmy Kimmel the shooter was MAGA. A lady who got interviewed who heard the shooting was according to Kimmel walking her MAGA Republican labrador. Sources told him that a bird flying past the area was also later identified as MAGA."
 
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"It doesn't matter the motives of the shooter, the people who got shot shoudn't have been detained in the first place. So it is the Nazis' fault."
This is the ultimate goal of all the "institutional erosion of trust" we have been undergoing for the past 20 years or so. We are at a point where we no longer trust the government, police, academia, or journalism for ANYTHING.

So instead we just listen to the most charismatic puppet master we can find, which ultimately will turn out to be an AI with an avatar of a big breasted anime girl.
 
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