Don't get hasty on the ICE one. It could be left wing or it could be a false flag.
I mean...even Tylenol issued warnings:
Anything happen to their baby, these crazy women probably going to blame Trump regardless.
Just to be clear, I posted the ICE thing because it could be another example of extreme left violence, which has been discussed in this thread. IfI feel like we're going to lose our one politics venting thread if we get too far off topic... on the actual case here, is there any new information in past couple of days? I've been very busy, but waiting to hear more about the broader investigation. I hope they release everything they find about the chat logs etc of people Tyler was involved with. It doesn't matter if they explicitly were planning it with him -- even knowing he wanted to do it is damning.
Yeah, seems related due to the political violence connection, IMO.Just to be clear, I posted the ICE thing because it could be another example of extreme left violence, which has been discussed in this thread. IfEviLore wants me to drop it I will.
Updates on the Charlie Kirk investigation will likely take a while, so unless we're humoring conspiracy theories, there isn't much to to discuss atm.
Taking a page out of the Jussie Smollett playbook.It's very likely related either way, just like the Kimmel situation was, the FCC discussion was, the guy shooting up the ABC station was, the Antifa designation was etc. It's all ripples from the assassination.
My gut says this dude will have been wearing a MAGA hat and shouting 'this is MAGA country' as he opened fire, with eagles carved into his bullet casings. It's the optimal play by the left rn.
So what do you mean by not organized then? That they don't have one HQ instructing all of their members nationwide? In that case, sure, maybe not nation wide but even then it's up for debate because they always show up places with the same signs and gear. Nevertheless, it's organized within their sects. Seattle Antifa has leaders, same as Portland Antifa and those leaders organize the protests and riots.It isn't organized. If someone says they are antifa and does bad shit and feds go after them….i have no problem with that, obviously. I'll leave it at that.
Freedom is the only way yeah.
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I mean...even Tylenol issued warnings:
Anything happen to their baby, these crazy women probably going to blame Trump regardless.
It's very likely related either way, just like the Kimmel situation was, the FCC discussion was, the guy shooting up the ABC station was, the Antifa designation was etc. It's all ripples from the assassination.
My gut says this dude will have been wearing a MAGA hat and shouting 'this is MAGA country' as he opened fire, with eagles carved into his bullet casings. It's the optimal play by the left rn.
This seems to be because of Charlie Kirk's murder.
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Apple postpones Jessica Chastain series about domestic extremism
The Savant pulled from Apple TV+ release schedule ‘after careful consideration’www.theguardian.com
I wonder what the show is like and if they're going to edit stuff from it.
The show follows Chastain's character infiltrating online hate groups in order to stop violence being committed in the US. It was loosely inspired by a 2019 Cosompolitan article that describes an investigator known as the Savant as "an elite investigator who tracks angry men online".
It's very possible. All three detainees have died.
It's easy to assume but we need more information. There's a press conference soon.
At this point most "right wing extremist groups" seem to be so infiltrated by the feds, they are basically run by the FBI.So treat groups like that all the same and if they come back then have a terrorist label attached to them. No matter if they're left or right. We do the same to groups like ISIS so why not to every group. Don't pick and choose is what I'm saying.
So what do you mean by not organized then? That they don't have one HQ instructing all of their members nationwide? In that case, sure, maybe not nation wide but even then it's up for debate because they always show up places with the same signs and gear. Nevertheless, it's organized within their sects. Seattle Antifa has leaders, same as Portland Antifa and those leaders organize the protests and riots.
The biggest red flag is all of these media organizations calling them decentralized all of a sudden like it's on some sort of block chain and no one has any control. If they started saying the KKK wasn't organized, people would believe that too. Which is another organization that should be labelled terrorist.
Why would a guy "on the right" shoot ICE agents or detainees? Presumably the detainees in the van were being brought there to be DEPORTED. Maybe the shooter was hoping to hit the drivers and just got folks in the back instead? If this was an incoming immigrant processing center or one of those big welcome camps, might be a different story. Then again, the shooter apparently offed themself so we may never know.Of course you wouldn't possibly accept that the guy could be from the right, even if all of that and more were true. At the very least, the dead people weren't working for ICE.
Objectively, folks should not jump to conclusions without evidence...and that includes excluding possibilities that you simply dislike, by assuming they must be "false flags".
Bullet casings at the scene had anti-ice messages on themsniper killing detainees?!?! hhmmm.....most likely TDA gang member killing other members to shut them up
Live stream of the press conference. They're still setting up.
The shell literally says, "ANTI-ICE." wtf lol
That'll be Kimmel's logic no doubt.Crazy. I often use lots of ice in my Pepsi. What kinda lunatic wants a beverage that's not cold?
I don't think he targeted the detainees. He shot into a van (I think).So, ANTI-ICE but shot 3 detainees. Makes sense.
The shell literally says, "ANTI-ICE." wtf lol
Bad marksman.So, ANTI-ICE but shot 3 detainees. Makes sense.
That'll be Kimmel's logic no doubt.
I don't think he targeted the detainees. He shot into a van (I think).
Indiscriminate fire hits indiscriminately.Bad marksman.
The shooter doesn't seem very bright.So in the back of a van where you put detainees... like you know, any detainee transports, you certainly don't have them drive at the front yea? Yea there's an education problem I think.
The New Zealand mosque shooter had messages all over his weapons and live-streamed it. Started a trend for online radicalization mass shootings where they show off for their audience and make sure their ideology is known. Recent trans church shooter did the same thing.When did people start writing stuff on bullets. I know in WW2 soldiers wrote messages on bombs, but bullets? Who writes a message on a bullet.
It's not on the bullets, it's on the casings. They usually expect the casings will be found and analyzed. Their message can get out via the media even if they get killed by law enforcement. It's the same reason some shooters leave a manifesto or long letter explaining their thoughts, feelings, motives, goals, etc.When did people start writing stuff on bullets. I know in WW2 soldiers wrote messages on bombs, but bullets? Who writes a message on a bullet.
The shell literally says, "ANTI-ICE." wtf lol
Simple application of cui bono in this case.Of course you wouldn't possibly accept that the guy could be from the right
Anti-ICE riight
"Just sprinkle some crack on him"
"According to Jimmy Kimmel the shooter was MAGA. A lady who got interviewed who heard the shooting was according to Kimmel walking her MAGA Republican labrador. Sources told him that a bird flying past the area was also later identified as MAGA."I'll wait until Jimmy Kimmel confirms the motive. I don't trust law enforcement.
This is the ultimate goal of all the "institutional erosion of trust" we have been undergoing for the past 20 years or so. We are at a point where we no longer trust the government, police, academia, or journalism for ANYTHING."It doesn't matter the motives of the shooter, the people who got shot shoudn't have been detained in the first place. So it is the Nazis' fault."