Exactly! History has shown that all empires crumbled from within. Those who should never have power are given power and with that power they brought nothing but decay, filth and suffering. Sometimes I wonder how bad Sodom and Gomorrah really was for God to destroy it. Surely couldn't be worse than the world is right now
Seriously? It was pretty brutal and even coming from public figures. (Trump, Kirk himself and others in the right wing sphere)
Where is the advocation of political violence?
3 days ago, the President of the United States shared an AI video mocking the hammer attack on Nancy Pelosi's husband, from his account. I don't know man, both seem pretty insane. I don't think either side could win the "your side is worse than my side" debate.
I was going to point out that it's really saying that 71% of dems think that it is usually or always unacceptable, but then it's still a large gap. probably there's a lot going on there w/ age. i think young people are probably more flippant about these things. it certainly does not paint dems in a good light.
When you add in usually unacceptable it's pretty much the same amount that believe it's broadly unacceptable/acceptable (D71/11 vs R89/6). Just Republicans are more black and white, either because that's part of what makes someone Republican or by the circumstances when the poll was asked
Or people blaming the rape victim because of how she was dressed. "She was asking for it".
I certainly think there's reasons to worry about that.
Sorry I should have said that he made light of the attack on Paul Pelosi. He was just cracking a joke here about how the attacker was a patriot. I wrote something that wasn't quite right; I take it back that he was advocating for violence here.
This poll was also performed immediately in the aftermath of a republican celebrity being assassinated. Ignoring the twitterbots (which we shouldn't) there is bound to be some pushback to the idea of political violence when one of their own was just publicly murdered. Now I'm just speculating, but I would bet that if this poll was performed at a different time, we would see some movement in the results. I wouldn't go as far as saying the democrats would outnumber the republicans in the unnacceptable category, but the timing is absolutely effecting the results.
When you add in usually unacceptable it's pretty much the same amount that believe it's broadly unacceptable/acceptable (D71/11 vs R89/6). Just Republicans are more black and white, either because that's part of what makes someone Republican or by the circumstances when the poll was asked
People, including Trump feel the 10+ years of "the right are literally nazis and a threat to a better tomorrow" and unfair mainstream media coverage created an environment where people like Charlie Kirk were viewed as threats/bad people (and many left wingers are celebrating his death) that needed a righteous force fighting a just cause to stop them, which got us to where we presently are.
That's a good point.
That's not even close to being comparable to saying you are happy that a person was shot on live tv and hopping that the same happen to other right wingers...
Those people are a problem, but they are also not representative of the whole people group they are apart of. The same can be said about bad cops, racists, anarchist, and pedophiles, that being the actions of those individuals don't represent everyone in the group they are apart of.
I did look up the full context of the quote. He goes on to say that the attack was awful, but this is an empty gesture because he's basically making light of the attack in the same breath. I think I was 100% wrong to say that he was advocating for violence here. It clearly was not his intention, when I got the full context.
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What's not even close? The absolute disgusting reaction from both sides to political violence? Both is abhorrent and divisive.
I'm sorry that you believe this with no evidence so far.
It was very concerning to see so many "leaders" immediately condemn and blame a people group without any evidence. Even if it turns out to be an individual who identifies themselves as 'left wing', it's a terrible example to set with very broad and potentially dangerous consequences. That isn't even taking into account they are blaming an entire group of people for the actions of an individual.
You should call the FBI and let them know who the shooter is.
It was also obvious that the Democrats killed or maimed in Minnesota were attacked by the far left and that Pelosi's husband was attacked by his gay lover.
When that group of people is openly celebrating the success of their attack and calling out who they want to be murdered next, it is appropriate to blame the group.
The number of people saying bad things in each case. Thats what I'm refering to... the number of people... MUCH higher in this case....
Such faulty logic. These are still individuals that don't represent the whole (even if it multiple individuals). I'll give you two examples: 1. Anarchist are considered a part of the left, do they represent the ideology of a bog standard Democrat?
Er.. that never happened, hell if you believe that then you may as well believe the absolute nonsense of how bad the entire planet was that the magical sky daddy decided to drown every living thing apart from the Kangaroos that managed to get all the way over from Australia to a wooden boat and then make it all the way back to Australia...
That video messed me up real good, and I've seen really gruesome stuff. But knowing who the guy is, I guess makes it worse.
This is a guy who made a living partly by assassinating the character of innocent people who got killed. When anyone high profile dies there are people talk about the bad shit they did, I don't see why Kirk should be off limits.
It always amused me that you had a perfectly good man with actual fucking principles who wanted nothing but the best for the ordinary working man and woman and youse all painted him as some sort of socialist monster and then elected an orange monkey to rule over you
For sure it's nasty. Similar to how people were mocking the Democrat and her husband shot in their bed or when Pelosi's husband got beat up, or how people were salivating during the insurrection to see some people get hurt or hanged. Some people are pretty nasty but I wouldn't interpret that as the general population.
