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[DragoonKain]

I've been reading a lot of "Choose a side" stuff online the past few days. I agree a "side" needs to be chosen. Not a side of left vs right. Not even a side of good vs evil. People will always convince themselves that their beliefs are good and opposing beliefs are evil, so that I don't think is a compelling message any longer.

The side that needs to be chosen is choosing to look for the good in others rather than looking for the bad. If we start there, I think that will be the most effective way of accepting other ideas and other people. We can preach "Just have a conversation! Accept the ideas of others!" all you want, but that is far less likely to happen if you view that person as a vile piece of shit.

Whether it's Charlie Kirk or someone else, people like that can have 50 different beliefs you disagree with and some you even find toxic. But I guarantee he also had 50+ beliefs you would strongly agree with. We have been rewired in recent years as a society to look for the bad in people. Society cannot function in unity with that mindset, it just can't. And choosing to look for the good in others will make you a lot happier as a person I promise.

 

[Vestal]

So back up.. hold up.. The Post alleges that he lived with a Trans person. Are they saying that the roommate is trans? If so, does that mean that Trans person turned in Charlie Kirks assassin?

Didn't have that in my bing card.

 

[DragoonKain]

Suspect turning himself in but not cooperating = protecting others?

I think we will see pseudo-accomplices / encouragers arrested from wherever he was hanging out online. This will get us into some pretty interesting First Amendment territory.

Unlikely. They will already have had tech teams going through his computers and devices finding anything they could.

Whenever someone is arrested, law enforcement will try to talk to them and get answers. For one, because they want to know and also can better inform the family of the victim. But also as evidence that can be used at trial. I'm sure they have enough evidence to get a conviction, but law enforcement always tries to get as much evidence they can. I'm sure they wanted to get a confession and go through everything he did that day and make sure it matches the evidence so they have it all open and shut for trial, but he just refused to talk to police.

 

[Ozriel]

Elon Musk is incredibly irresponsible broadcasting one take of a rando nobody on a platform(Bluskee) that no one uses to his hundred million followers and using the term "they." There is no fucking they, it has to stop. One can't talk about turning down the temperature and then essentially declare war.

That's been his M.O for a while now.

It's scary how fast it has gone from:
"Punch a 'nazi'"
To:
"Kill a 'nazi'"

The slope is getting more slippery every day.

Well, it's gone to 'Civil war', militias recruiting and gun company stocks rising.
Way more than a 'slippery slope' these days

 

[Punished Miku]

If so, does that mean that Trans person turned in Charlie Kirks assassin?

Didn't have that in my bing card.

Shamylan level twist for sure. Trans informant bails out Kash Patel.

 

[Mr Moose]

So back up.. hold up.. The Post alleges that he lived with a Trans person. Are they saying that the roommate is trans? If so, does that mean that Trans person turned in Charlie Kirks assassin?

Didn't have that in my bing card.

He'd already given himself up by the time the roommate shared the messages, as far as I am aware. Conflicting reports though.
Daily Mail says this:

A 22-year-old wannabe professional gamer who lived with Charlie Kirk's alleged assassin gave cops incriminating text messages leading to his arrest.

 

[Darkmakaimura]

So back up.. hold up.. The Post alleges that he lived with a Trans person. Are they saying that the roommate is trans? If so, does that mean that Trans person turned in Charlie Kirks assassin?

Didn't have that in my bing card.

The father and a priest or pastor turned him in, not the roommate.

 

[Mistake]

So back up.. hold up.. The Post alleges that he lived with a Trans person. Are they saying that the roommate is trans? If so, does that mean that Trans person turned in Charlie Kirks assassin?

Didn't have that in my bing card.

I had no idea. There's so much going on now. From he had help, to they were dating or roommates. And I thought the father was the one that turned him in?

 

[IntentionalPun]

Elon Musk is incredibly irresponsible broadcasting one take of a rando nobody on a platform(Bluskee) that no one uses to his hundred million followers and using the term "they." There is no fucking they, it has to stop. One can't talk about turning down the temperature and then essentially declare war.

And we have no idea if this trans roommate thing is even true, and if it was, if that had anything to do with him shooting Charlie.

Settle the hell down and let the facts come out, my god. People are fucking foaming at the mouth to blame or attack others. It's so toxic.

Been saying the same thing here and in my left-leaning Discord I chat with folks on.

 

[Vestal]

The father and a priest or pastor turned him in, not the roommate.

Look at what's quoted right above you


Info is all over the place. what a clusterfuck

 

[Darkmakaimura]

Look at what's quoted right above you


Info is all over the place. what a clusterfuck

Huh....

 

[Vestal]

Huh....

A 22-year-old wannabe professional gamer who lived with Charlie Kirk's alleged assassin gave cops incriminating text messages leading to his arrest.

 

[adamsapple]

Shamylan level twist for sure. Trans informant bails out Kash Patel.

Now that's a twist for sure.

*Kash will remember that*

 

[calico]

Unlikely. They will already have had tech teams going through his computers and devices finding anything they could.

Whenever someone is arrested, law enforcement will try to talk to them and get answers. For one, because they want to know and also can better inform the family of the victim. But also as evidence that can be used at trial. I'm sure they have enough evidence to get a conviction, but law enforcement always tries to get as much evidence they can. I'm sure they wanted to get a confession and go through everything he did that day and make sure it matches the evidence so they have it all open and shut for trial, but he just refused to talk to police.

I know law enforcement will try to get all the answers, what I mean is his motivation for silence is unlikely to be protecting himself given he turned himself in thereby effectively declaring himself to be the culprit. It's much too late for silence to protect himself, but it could still protect others.

My expectation is they are going to find a bunch of his online bros saying 'do it, do it, do it, do it' who are going to have to argue that they never thought he'd actually do it. Which may or may not be true.

 

[SScorpio]

Numbers on the video are likely wrong, but I can't find one like it on news posts.

Well over 100,000 maybe even a quarter of a million by the looks of it at the Tommy Robinson protest in London. People around the world might have decided they can no longer stand idly by. And notice it's people standing in the streets with flags, do looting of the stores, flipping and burning of police cars, etc.

 

[DragoonKain]

I know law enforcement will try to get all the answers, what I mean is his motivation for silence is unlikely to be protecting himself given he turned himself in thereby effectively declaring himself to be the culprit. It's much too late for silence to protect himself, but it could still protect others.

My expectation is they are going to find a bunch of his online bros saying 'do it, do it, do it, do it' who are going to have to argue that they never thought he'd actually do it. Which may or may not be true.

It happens all the time, it's really not uncommon at all. People will turn themselves in and not talk. Even if he confessed and turned himself in doesn't mean he's a lock to be found guilty at trial. And could be just the advice of his lawyer if he had some type of council present or was given advice before by his family. Most likely just doesn't want to hurt his chances even more at trial and/or is just of the mindset where he doesn't want to talk to police.

 

[Airola]

She's a reporter so this isn't without merit. It's blowing up fast so her reputation is on the line if she gets it wrong.

I think that especially on Neogaf people should know how trustworthy "reputable" reporters with their sources are after following year after year rumors about games and consoles that never came true

 

[Kacho]

I think that especially on Neogaf people should know how trustworthy "reputable" reporters with their sources are after following year after year rumors about games and consoles that never came true

The report was true.

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

Numbers on the video are likely wrong, but I can't find one like it on news posts.

Well over 100,000 maybe even a quarter of a million by the looks of it at the Tommy Robinson protest in London. People around the world might have decided they can no longer stand idly by. And notice it's people standing in the streets with flags, do looting of the stores, flipping and burning of police cars, etc.

 

[calico]

A 22-year-old wannabe professional gamer who lived with Charlie Kirk's alleged assassin gave cops incriminating text messages leading to his arrest.

Right, but this could mean the texts were the part which led to them placing him under arrest for the murder. ie. This is how they knew the guy who turned himself in saying he did it was actually the real deal and not some faker.

 

[cormack12]

Yeah there are probably two points here. Finding Tyler Robinson once potentially identified, but then having enough in hand to place him under arrest for the crime itself.

Having said that, it did say he phoned them. Part of me wonders if they phoned the room mate, who then wanted no part of it and that's why he ended up back home? Because if he was living elsewhere wouldn't he just return there?

Anyway, probably not healthy to keep going down each potential maybe while tidbits of info come out.

 

[Jenov]

Welp.

If this is true (where is the source?), then it does line up with the gay/queer furry memes he had inscribed on the ammo that I pointed out yesterday:

If you have any experience in Gen Z discord culture, specifically furry discords, it's pretty common to see that meme. And they're all very gay/queer.

Example meme of one of the other things he inscribed:

Notices Bulge / OwO What's This? | Know Your Meme

Notices Bulge / OwO What's This? is a copypasta parodying both furries and online roleplay subcultures, which is typically used online as a method of troll

knowyourmeme.com

 

[Jenov]

So when he engraved the casing with "If you read this, you're gay", he was the first one who saw it. So he's in fact gay.

Yes. It's a meme in gen z queer discord. Not meant as homophobic. Very tongue in cheek trolling edgelord stuff by queer furry culture types.

 

[Airola]

I thought he lived with his parents; wasn't that what they ior the sheriff said yesterday?

Part of the investigation had them get information about Tyler from his roommate.

He also could've lived in both his parents home and with his roommate. That's how I lived about 20 years ago (except I didn't have a roommate, but I lived in a campus and went back to my parents every weekend and had my home address still registered there too.

 

[Embearded]

So the killer had a conservative up bringing and then switched to the left and was in a relationship with a trans man?

I say he is undercover right wing radicalized agent who took the easiest choice to blend in the far left circles by sleeping with a so called man without a penis.

 

[12Goblins]

Deranged.

 

[Darkmakaimura]

So now I'm reading that the roommate actually wasn't trans.

Here we go again with conflicting reports.

 

[IntentionalPun]

Part of the investigation had them get information about Tyler from his roommate.

He also could've lived in both his parents home and with his roommate. That's how I lived about 20 years ago (except I didn't have a roommate, but I lived in a campus and went back to my parents every weekend and had my home address still registered there too.

The lady reporting that works for Fox News, who as far as I can tell.. isn't repeating the claim.

They still have their top story up that the father turned him in, and there's no mention of a roommate.

Again, I'd wait until you start repeating things from twitter as fact, that are only being parroted by tabloid press.

 

[Mortisfacio]

So now I'm reading that the roommate actually wasn't trans.

Here we go again with conflicting reports.

I've only seen the denial from two accounts. Both accounts also posted the AI crop of Robinson in a MAGA tshirt, so I don't believe that at the moment.

More legit news outlets are reporting the persons name, correlation with cooperating with FBI, allegedly the family isn't denying and the tiktok vids on this aren't 100% conclusive of trans, but 100% conclusive of LGBT

 

[calico]

So now I'm reading that the roommate actually wasn't trans.

'Lance Twiggs' has to be a troll right? Like Ligma and Johnson the fired twitter employees.

 

[Airola]

The lady reporting that works for Fox News, who as far as I can tell.. isn't repeating the claim.

They still have their top story up that the father turned him in, and there's no mention of a roommate.

Again, I'd wait until you start repeating things from twitter as fact, that are only being parroted by tabloid press.

The investigators were looking for all kinds of evidence, not only trying to catch the criminal. Part of the investigation was getting evidence from his roommate who cooperated with them by showing Tyler's messages.



They call him his roommate in that video.

 

[Darkmakaimura]

'Lance Twiggs' has to be a troll right? Like Ligma and Johnson the fired twitter employees.

That could be their dead name. She might have went by a trans alias.

 

[IntentionalPun]

The investigators were looking for all kinds of evidence, not only trying to catch the criminal. Part of the investigation was getting evidence from his roommate who cooperated with them by showing Tyler's messages.



They call him his roommate in that video.

Thanks.

 

[cormack12]

Following this topic, you need one eye in each camp man

 

[Topher]

 

[12Goblins]

So now I'm reading that the roommate actually wasn't trans.

Here we go again with conflicting reports.

It doesn't even matter if they were trans or not. Clearly they wanted nothing to do with this act of terrorism, seeing they immediately came forward with information to law enforcement


IMO the biggest indicator this had nothing with leftist or socalled "trans ideology", which certainly still seems possible based on the information publicly available, is that if Trump or the FBI even got the faintest whiff to support these claims, they would be running fucking wild with it. I don't think Trump even gives a shit about trans people, he just knows it would make him the most popular man in the world rn

 

[Mr Moose]

That could be their dead name. She might have went by a trans alias.

I won't post their social media accounts, but nope seems that's the name they are using.

 

[calico]

seeing they immediately came forward with information to law enforcement

What makes you think that?

 

[FoxMcChief]

So the killer had a conservative up bringing and then switched to the left and was in a relationship with a trans man?

I say he is undercover right wing radicalized agent who took the easiest choice to blend in the far left circles by sleeping with a so called man without a penis.

 

[Trilobit]

I wonder what Tyler Robinson's endgame was. It seemed to be well-planned, but he didn't really have any escape plans. Or did he really think that he wouldn't get caught in such a high profile case. He didn't even book a plane ticket when he heard the president demand a death penalty. It's like they say, it's easy to rob a bank, it's the getaway that's the hard part. This dude didn't even really try to get away.

 

[12Goblins]

You would think people would get tired of being deceived, or lied to, but they just keep going back for more, like a drug

Caption says "filter has no clue what it's looking at" if you fullscreen the image.

 

[kevboard]

I wonder what Tyler Robinson's endgame was. It seemed to be well-planned, but he didn't really have any escape plans. Or did he really think that he wouldn't get caught in such a high profile case. He didn't even book a plane ticket when he heard the president demand a death penalty. It's like they say, it's easy to rob a bank, it's the getaway that's the hard part. This dude didn't even really try to get away.

I think that saying is outdated now tho. I think robbing a bank these days would be way harder than when that saying was coined

 

[P:axMagellanic]

 

[P:axMagellanic]

Normality and decency, at last. I hope his missus gets to see how respected her husband was even across the pond.

 

[Trilobit]

I think that saying is outdated now tho. I think robbing a bank these days would be way harder than when that saying was coined

Yeah, it works better as a metaphor for overall crimes.

 

[Embearded]

I wonder what Tyler Robinson's endgame was. It seemed to be well-planned, but he didn't really have any escape plans. Or did he really think that he wouldn't get caught in such a high profile case. He didn't even book a plane ticket when he heard the president demand a death penalty. It's like they say, it's easy to rob a bank, it's the getaway that's the hard part. This dude didn't even really try to get away.

I think you are giving him too much credit.

You would think people would get tired of being deceived, or lied to, but they just keep going back for more, like a drug

Caption says "filter has no clue what it's looking at" if you fullscreen the image.

Now i am confused, is the alleged transgender an alleged man or an alleged woman?

 

[12Goblins]

I wonder what Tyler Robinson's endgame was. It seemed to be well-planned, but he didn't really have any escape plans. Or did he really think that he wouldn't get caught in such a high profile case. He didn't even book a plane ticket when he heard the president demand a death penalty. It's like they say, it's easy to rob a bank, it's the getaway that's the hard part. This dude didn't even really try to get away.

Seems this guy has the makeup of your typical school shooter from back in the day. Problem is now nobody cares about school shootings since they don't come with the notoriety they used to. There doesn't seem to be any political activism or coherent ideological motives going on here, which is why everybody is left scratching their heads. Just memes, clout, and notoriety from a terminally online angry, disaffected, confused white kid

 

[Mistake]

Probably best to give any new information 5-6 hours to stew, at the very least. Walsh seems confident about it

 

[paolo11]

So conflicting reports if the killer's partner is trans or not?

Either way, we need more concrete information. I think more will be revealed as time goes by

 

[calico]

Normality and decency, at last. I hope his missus gets to see how respected her husband was even across the pond.

Damn, reminds me of the Star Spangled Banner being played at Buckingham Palace after 9/11.